Subscription can either be bought, or gifted to anyone. From the feedback we got, $20 USD per year (approximately $1.66 USD per month) would roughly be the right "sweet spot" for people.
Compared to the Other Site, the primary difference in subscriptions between us and them, is ours are time-based vs. usage based, and we're not offering early access to stories, or the +1 subscription pseudo-moderation. I thought fairly hard about this, and given the community feedback, simply because you do (or don't) pay for subscription does not make you a better or worse user. I also saw many people concerned that we were going to implement a "pay to post"-like system. Let me lay this down; we are NOT going to do this; this site exists for the community, and the principles I laid out in the manifesto clearly state "We will be the best site for independent, not-for-profit journalism on the internet, where ideas can be presented and free discussion can take place without external needs overshadowing the community." To require a user to go through a paywall, or have to financially contribute to this site to be an active proponent would fly in the face of that.How about for $10 you'll post an article of my choice clearly brightly identified as being sponsored by me and linked to my profile and comments are completely uncensored although any/all editors have full veto approval. $10 isn't high enough to push your moral/ethical boundaries (I hope) yet its high enough that "one" per day does add up to a couple grand per year, or the equivalent of thousands of subs. Would not want to see "ten" per day. "two" on a slow news day, eh maybe OK.
Sponsored content is something that has come up a few times in the past in discussing various revenue models. I'm not inherently against such a thing, but the other site fiddled with trying this, and essentially created a new form of slashverisment. Now, obviously with editorial and veto authority, we could limit such things, but I'm struggling to see what may get posted that we wouldn't already run. We could perhaps change the QA/Ask Soylent topic into "paid questions", and run those on occasion. I think the question to the broader community is, what forms of sponsored content would you like to be able to 1. purchase for yourself 2. be willing to tolerate.
My 2/100 of $1.00 USD by martyb
Separately, I like swag (especially coffee mugs). Make it limited edition by including the year or something in/on it. Maybe combine the two ideas? Pick your choice of swag and offer whatever donation you think it's worth.
Even better, offer a swag item that is unique to SN: a DVD or USB-stick which would boot up with a copy of the site as it now stands. For an extra 20%, it could even be autographed by the NCommander, himself. Soon to be a collector's item!
Swag is another good way we can raise money. I'd definitely be willing to create some sort of SN-on-a-stick w/ sanitized database which someone could purchase, stick in their computer, and pull up a local copy of SoylentNews in all its glory, as well as perhaps create some unique items (i.e., coffee cups, etc) available for sale. If its someone reasonable, I think we could look at selling it; ideas welcome below.
What About a Custom Slash Instance? by prospectacle
Who better to offer custom-slash-instance hosting?
While all users get a journal, paid users could get a virtualised slash instance, to run their own complete forum (a "super journal")
Bottom tier could have your own slash forum at username.soylentnews.com. A control panel could offer various simple customisations, such as colours, fonts, sidebar links, logos, etc.
More advanced (expensive) tiers could have more customisation options (use your own domain, control karma and mod-point settings, etc)
The most expensive tier would give the user a complete virtual machine with a full slash install, the ability to modify the slash source code (as well as use the simpler control-panel configurations), maybe a domain name is thrown in (chosen by the user, but organised and maintained by SN) or you can bring your own. Plus your own email/irc/wiki servers. Your "subscriber site" or whatever you would call it, could be linked to next to your name or sig, when posting to SN proper.
We've actually looked at doing something like this; there is partial support for this kind of functionality in slashcode already (the nexus feature, which is live on dev, and is pending a wildcard SSL cert before going live here. The intent is that once the feature was built out more, we could have a "sub-slash" system (conceptually similar to sub-reddits), in which users could follow various nexuses on any topic, and users could create their own (possibly paying a one-time cost to do so), either existing as nexus.soylentnews.org, or perhaps with their own custom domain name.
Functionality wise, we're still quite a ways out from implementing this (most of the admin code would require re-factoring to make it fly), but it would allow users to create their own communities within SN, i.e., a community dedicated to DIY, or one dedicated to minecraft or gaming), each with its own staff overseeing it, and the ability to submit any article to the main page.
(Score: 1) by Castout on Thursday June 26 2014, @06:10PM
I had always thought an ad page could be done that is just that, an ad page. Whenever we want to support SN, you click to the link maybe an $ icon across the top, it loads ads structured nicely, have them tech relevant, and you can just go on a clicking spree (in a sandbox Linux VM for protection) to support the site.
I've posted this before and demonlapin (925) also posted "Actually, a page of affiliate links to Amazon, Newegg, Monoprice, etc., wouldn't be a bad idea. Just ask people to use them whenever they're planning a purchase."
Would keep the main pages clean but allow some unobtrusive easy access ad revenue
"Think outside the box but park between the lines!" - Castout
(Score: 2) by NCommander on Thursday June 26 2014, @06:15PM
Affiliates are definitely an option though require more research, especially if we do some sorta review on products and such. As for ad clicking spread, almost every ad network I've seen has rules in their TOS prohibiting that.
Still always moving
(Score: 1) by koreanbabykilla on Thursday June 26 2014, @06:40PM
Do the opposite of the green site, and have an "enable ads" button that is off by default? I will happily pay $20 a year just to support the site. I would also browse with non-obnoxious ads turned on if it would help. I'm really good at ignoring ads. (no adblock at work lol)
NCommander, thank you and the other staff for listening and making SN a great site. I appreciate all you do.
(Score: 1) by schad on Thursday June 26 2014, @08:07PM
I actually really like the idea of reviews, where at the bottom you have links like "Buy this on Amazon" that use SN as the referrer. Of course, the Internet may not need Yet Another Review Site. I think there are a couple niches that SN could fill. Though probably it'd never contribute more than a couple bucks a month.
Still, might be something that could differentiate SN while also bringing in some new faces. And it fits with the theme of community-generated content. So the pocket change might just be a nice side benefit of something that's done for other reasons.
I suppose this means I should put my money where my mouth is and submit a review of something.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 26 2014, @08:59PM
> I actually really like the idea of reviews, where at the bottom you have links like "Buy this on Amazon" that use SN as the referrer.
You might be surprised to learn that when you follow an amazon referral link, it puts a cookie on your browser such that any purchase you make in the next 24 hours gets credited to the referring site (unless another referral over-writes that cookie). You might be OK with that, but the referring site also gets a list of all purchases made with their referrer id.. Technically they don't get the identity of the purchaser, but given a list of who clicked on specific links on the referring website plus the list of purchases it gets easier to de-anonymize the data. So you clicked on a link for an xbox game and then you threw in a buttplug too and now the referring site has a pretty good chance of figuring out you bought a buttplug.
(Score: 2) by tathra on Thursday June 26 2014, @10:05PM
and then you end up with creepy stuff like this [cnet.com]. lets stay as far away from that as possible.
(Score: 1) by schad on Friday June 27 2014, @02:18AM
Yikes, that is creepy. I had no idea that was a thing.
Apparently the idea is to capture people who look at a product, then come back later that day and buy it; and also to capture any "impulse buys" that they decide to get at the same time. If Amazon didn't leak individual purchases -- if they just sent a "referrals bought $X of merchandise this month, here is your Y% cut" instead -- I'd be fine with that. But... As it stands, I withdraw my suggestion.
(Score: 2) by gman003 on Thursday June 26 2014, @07:18PM
Newegg might be a good idea. In particular, whenever there's a story about certain hardware, you can provide Newegg links to it. As long as you make it clear about what you're doing, I'd be fine with that.
(Score: 2) by strattitarius on Thursday June 26 2014, @07:31PM
Think of it as a single page pintrest that would be relevant to our community.
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