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posted by martyb on Tuesday November 13 2018, @12:50PM   Printer-friendly
from the Room-101-dept dept.

As the days go by our hard won freedoms and liberty are slowly being eroded. In Europe a crushing blow has been made to freedom of speech with a European Court of Human Rights upholding a conviction for saying that the person known as Muhammad ten centuries ago was technically a paedophile based on information in historical texts. The statement was made in reference to Muhammad's marriage to a six year old child name called Aisha. The court found that “Presenting objects of religious worship in a provocative way capable of hurting the feelings of the followers of that religion could be conceived as a malicious violation of the spirit of tolerance, which was one of the bases of a democratic society.”. In giving its ruling that "Muhammad was not a worthy subject of worship" the court has additionally demonstrated a complete misunderstanding as to the religion involved which worships "Allah", a word meaning 'God', not 'Muhammad' who claimed to be a prophet of this god. Freedom of speech is dying.


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  • (Score: 2) by urza9814 on Tuesday November 13 2018, @03:09PM (6 children)

    by urza9814 (3954) on Tuesday November 13 2018, @03:09PM (#761307) Journal

    That site is blocked at my office so I can't read it at the moment...but based on the quoted potion in the summary:

    “Presenting objects of religious worship in a provocative way capable of hurting the feelings of the followers of that religion could be conceived as a malicious violation of the spirit of tolerance, which was one of the bases of a democratic society.”

    I'd be interested in how exactly they define things like "objects of religious worship." Because as a...let's say "humanist"...I hold the various declarations of human rights (such as the UDHR) in pretty high regard, and this ruling is really hurting my feelings and feels quite malicious to say that people cannot plainly state undisputed facts...

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  • (Score: 1, Redundant) by isj on Tuesday November 13 2018, @03:18PM (1 child)

    by isj (5249) on Tuesday November 13 2018, @03:18PM (#761312) Homepage

    The AC reply above quoted a larger and informative portion of the ruling.

    If your employer blocks access to the EU court site(s) then you really need to talk to your network/firewall administrator.

    • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by urza9814 on Tuesday November 13 2018, @04:45PM

      by urza9814 (3954) on Tuesday November 13 2018, @04:45PM (#761363) Journal

      If your employer blocks access to the EU court site(s) then you really need to talk to your network/firewall administrator.

      That's the intended behavior. "This website has been blocked because it resolves to an IP address that is located outside the United States."

      But they let us have unrestricted Facebook access...to the point where there's official training material saying you are allowed to check Facebook from your work computer as long as you're on break (and nobody actually tracks breaks, so people pretty much use it whenever the boss isn't looking over their shoulder)...but nope, you can't access EU government documents. And you can't request to have anything unblocked unless you can provide "legitimate business justification".

      I'm just happy I can still read Soylent...they seem to be blocking a lot of the more well known alternative news sources lately. And when there's big news (elections and such) even CNN gets blocked for the day. But Soylent seems to stay under the radar.

      If I really cared I'd just tether to my phone or proxy though my server at home...but meh, not really worth it.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday November 13 2018, @10:40PM (3 children)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday November 13 2018, @10:40PM (#761487) Journal

    I had a friend who was a Sabean witch. He kept a small room as an altar to his god, which was represented by various small gourds. Can those of us who carved pumpkins for Halloween be imprisoned now for hurting the feelings of Sabean witches?

    Those of us who cook pasta and strain it with collanders are desecrating the sacred headwear of the Pastafarians. Can they now have us imprisoned for doing so?

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    • (Score: 1) by Acabatag on Wednesday November 14 2018, @12:51AM (2 children)

      by Acabatag (2885) on Wednesday November 14 2018, @12:51AM (#761532)

      I'd have to ask a pastafarian if they considered that desecration. I would bet they'd say to not worry about it, though.

      • (Score: 5, Informative) by deimtee on Wednesday November 14 2018, @02:37AM (1 child)

        by deimtee (3272) on Wednesday November 14 2018, @02:37AM (#761561) Journal

        As a Reformed New Orthodox Pastafarian, we are okay with both uses of the Sacred Collander, as long as they are done respectfully, and it is washed between tasks.
        Can't speak speak for the Orthodox Reformed Pastafarians though, those heretics have weird practices. And don't even start me on the One True Pastafarians, bloody hell.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 14 2018, @10:08AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 14 2018, @10:08AM (#761680)

          Splitters!!!