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posted by martyb on Saturday April 10 2021, @02:11PM   Printer-friendly
from the people-have-spoken dept.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/04/the-amazon-union-drive-in-alabama-appears-headed-for-defeat/

Update: A majority of workers have voted not to form a union at the Amazon Fulfillment Center in Bessemer, Alabama. The result of the NLRB's initial vote count was 1,798 votes against the union and 738 in favor. Hundreds of additional ballots were not counted because their authenticity was disputed. But the "no" side already has a majority of the 3,215 votes cast, making the issue moot.

Original story, April 8: A closely watched effort to unionize an Amazon fulfillment center in Bessemer, Alabama appears to be headed for defeat. With about half the votes counted, 1,100 workers have voted against forming a union, while only 463 voted in favor.

The National Labor Relations Board is counting the 3,215 votes that were cast by workers at the Bessemer facility. The union needs to win at least half the votes in order to become the official representative of the roughly 6,000 workers at the Bessemer facility. Counting has ended for the evening and is scheduled to resume at 8:30 am Central Time on Friday.

Also at The Washington Post, c|net, and Al Jazeera.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @02:13AM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @02:13AM (#1135874)

    Yeah, all them non-union thugs intimidating people is legendary.

  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday April 11 2021, @03:40AM (11 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday April 11 2021, @03:40AM (#1135912) Journal

    The Pinkertons would like a word with you, if we could 1) find a decent medium and 2) get anything but agonized shrieks out of them, considering "where" most of them are now and will remain for a goodly while...

    --
    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday April 11 2021, @06:46AM (10 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 11 2021, @06:46AM (#1135965) Journal

      get anything but agonized shrieks out of them, considering "where" most of them are now and will remain for a goodly while...

      In other words, Hell. Pinkertons are going straight to Hell.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday April 12 2021, @12:38AM (9 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday April 12 2021, @12:38AM (#1136199) Journal

        Have gone. And, again, it's not so much a place as it is a state of mind. I suspect the minor minions have mostly or all reincarnated by now (and some of them may very well be some of today's downtrodden pro-union protestors!) but the real psychos are still burning, or whatever other form their karmic backlash is taking on them.

        I can't help but notice that you get extremely upset whenever people bring up the idea that the obviously guilty and evil are going to pay for their crimes. You've started double-posting in that thread about Dominion, and the content of most of those pots amounts fo sticking your fingers in your ears and going "lalalala, I can't heeeear youuuuu~!"

        You are hiding something. If we ever get our hands on those leaks from Parler, Gab, etc, we will find out what. In the meantime, you are *not* doing yourself any favors by acting like this.

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        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday April 12 2021, @04:02AM (8 children)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 12 2021, @04:02AM (#1136248) Journal

          I can't help but notice that you get extremely upset whenever people bring up the idea that the obviously guilty and evil are going to pay for their crimes.

          With fantasy punishments not real ones!

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday April 12 2021, @06:52AM (7 children)

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday April 12 2021, @06:52AM (#1136274) Journal

            They are as real as it is possible to get. In death there are no more illusions, no more excuses, and no places to hide from yourself. No angry God or vengeful demon torments you; you torment you, with what you are in the dark and what you've done in the world.

            I understand why you don't like this idea. You've clearly got a lot to answer for. I don't pretend to be perfect or even that much better than the average (median) human, morally speaking, but it's clear from your post history that you have some serious darkness in you. Fairly be ye warned: dying does not make you a different or better person. We die as we lived, it's just that we don't get to hide from ourselves any longer once dead.

            --
            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday April 12 2021, @07:17AM (6 children)

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 12 2021, @07:17AM (#1136280) Journal

              They are as real as it is possible to get.

              LOL. I assure you it gets more real in the real world.

              In death there are no more illusions, no more excuses, and no places to hide from yourself.

              Except, of course, if that's not true. Then it's not.

              I understand why you don't like this idea.

              It's a copout. You're weaseling out of thinking about your morality or considering arguments of others.

              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday April 12 2021, @09:10AM (5 children)

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday April 12 2021, @09:10AM (#1136297) Journal

                Projection again. I am not the one running away from the idea of consequences for my actions. You are. You seem to need the hard-materialist conception of the consciousness to be true on a deep psychological level.

                I notice whenever someone starts smacking you around, you ball up and fart out "no u!" in rapid succession in lieu of any actual arguments. Runaway does that too, I've observed. You two must either have guilty consciences or else be in the moral equivalent of locked-in syndrome.

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                I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday April 12 2021, @03:14PM (4 children)

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 12 2021, @03:14PM (#1136438) Journal

                  Projection again. I am not the one running away from the idea of consequences for my actions. You are.

                  Nobody has gone to the extreme of inventing an afterlife system merely so that they don't have to think about other viewpoints.

                  You seem to need the hard-materialist conception of the consciousness to be true on a deep psychological level.

                  There's a million opinions on what's going to happen when we die. What makes yours the right one? You need to cut the crap. Evidence or GTFO.

                  What's particularly obnoxious is the pointlessness of the argument. By your own assertions, the afterlife is what it is no matter what we believe or do. Nor have you ever given any usable advice on how to improve our stay in the afterlife - just don't disagree with Azuma.

                  I notice whenever someone starts smacking you around, you ball up and fart out "no u!" in rapid succession in lieu of any actual arguments.

                  When "tu quoque" dismantles someone's argument, there's no point to going any further. I'm not you, thus, I'm not going to get the benefits of your Azuma-centered arguments.

                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday April 13 2021, @12:48AM (3 children)

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday April 13 2021, @12:48AM (#1136779) Journal

                    I've given you plenty of advice: if you don't want to spend time "in Hell" (remember, it's a state of mind, not a place), don't cultivate a Hellish mindset. The fact that you refuse to take this under consideration is on you, not me.

                    It's not about agreeing or disagreeing with me in and of itself; it's about positions one takes on certain matters that *ought* to be utter no-brainers as to which one is correct. When I warn you that your positions will get you fried, it's not because you disagree with me; it's because *what* you disagree with me on involves you coming down on the side of evil.

                    You desperately, desperately need to believe this is just me acting like you, in other words, stroking my own ego. It isn't. And you won't believe any evidence I present to you because you've already decided it's not possible, so what's the point? All I can do is forewarn you so you're not surprised when you drop your body but keep existing and aren't happy with the state you find yourself in. Fine, I know I can't force you to be a decent human being, but don't say you were never warned.

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                    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday April 13 2021, @01:32AM (2 children)

                      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 13 2021, @01:32AM (#1136796) Journal

                      I've given you plenty of advice

                      And I've ignored it because you speak from ignorance on many levels. You don't have a clue what the afterlife entails. So no point listening to your strangely detailed fantasy where the black hats get what's coming to them.

                      Second, you don't have a clue about me, but are willing to fantasize multiple mental illnesses and disabilities on straw man khallow, who getting pretty beat up by all this attention.

                      Third, you don't have a clue about yourself. All the above is powered by a very potent self-delusion.

                      So I'm going to skip yet another clueless lecture.

                      • (Score: 1, Troll) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday April 13 2021, @11:54AM (1 child)

                        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday April 13 2021, @11:54AM (#1136948) Journal

                        I mean, that's your right, but don't say you weren't warned :)

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                        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 13 2021, @09:08PM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 13 2021, @09:08PM (#1137124)

                          Hell hath no fury like a... nevermind.

                          Okay, beware the Wrath Of Kahn!

                          But Kirk beat Kahn.

                          But rock beats scissors.

                          Let's try again: Rock-Paper-Scissors-Lizard-Spock