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posted by martyb on Saturday April 10 2021, @02:11PM   Printer-friendly
from the people-have-spoken dept.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/04/the-amazon-union-drive-in-alabama-appears-headed-for-defeat/

Update: A majority of workers have voted not to form a union at the Amazon Fulfillment Center in Bessemer, Alabama. The result of the NLRB's initial vote count was 1,798 votes against the union and 738 in favor. Hundreds of additional ballots were not counted because their authenticity was disputed. But the "no" side already has a majority of the 3,215 votes cast, making the issue moot.

Original story, April 8: A closely watched effort to unionize an Amazon fulfillment center in Bessemer, Alabama appears to be headed for defeat. With about half the votes counted, 1,100 workers have voted against forming a union, while only 463 voted in favor.

The National Labor Relations Board is counting the 3,215 votes that were cast by workers at the Bessemer facility. The union needs to win at least half the votes in order to become the official representative of the roughly 6,000 workers at the Bessemer facility. Counting has ended for the evening and is scheduled to resume at 8:30 am Central Time on Friday.

Also at The Washington Post, c|net, and Al Jazeera.


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  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday April 11 2021, @03:37AM (8 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday April 11 2021, @03:37AM (#1135910) Journal

    And that would be all well and good if the playing field were truly level. It's not, though, which is the precise problem unions were created to address in the first place.

    Most of humanity is not atomized apart from others like you are from the rest of the human race, Uzzard. Your insistence that everyone thinks like you and is in the same situation as you facing the same problems as you is bordering on solipsism, and the most charitable thing I can say about it is that in the context of this discussion you're not being helpful. More specifically, it seems you don't have the cognitive tools to process this; you know the words but not the music, as it were, which is perfectly in line with your bizarrre description of empathy as purely understanding another person's emotional state on an intellectual level.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @04:24AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @04:24AM (#1135928)

    RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday April 11 2021, @04:50AM (3 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday April 11 2021, @04:50AM (#1135936) Journal

      Which explains all the tone trolling I get when I start clowning on the ones who deserve to be clowned on...! :D

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @05:29PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @05:29PM (#1136064)

        Maybe you should try being a happy clown. Instead of...

      • (Score: 1) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday April 11 2021, @11:46PM (1 child)

        Telling you you're being a raging cunt isn't tone trolling. You need to learn the meaning of the phrase.

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        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday April 12 2021, @12:12AM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday April 12 2021, @12:12AM (#1136180) Journal

          You seem to have the same issue with this that you do every time someone kicks your shit in and you run away while crying "Ad-hom! Ad-hom!"

          In the same way an ad-hom is when someone issues insults *in lieu* of an argument instead of *with* one as I do (because I'm generous like that!"), tone trolling is when someone deliberately disregards the actual content of what someone else says because they don't like the surrounding package.

          Well too bad, carrion-breath. Content is king. If people are delivering you packages of truth and it's wrapped in the equivalent of a Howler from the Potterverse, 1) that does *not* make the truth any less true, 2) that does *not* give you permission to ignore it, and 3) maybe you need to do some self-reflection as to why people are being meeeeeeeeeeeeeean to you.

          ...hah, that'll be the day.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @06:10AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @06:10AM (#1135958)

      Rule 5 only works if the people supposedly being ridiculed give a shit. If they think that the ridicule is the squawking of flustered chickens, they will give precisely 0 shits. "Oh really, a bunch of people who burned their own city down think that I'm bad for business? I'll pencil in some time to pretend to care about their opinion in Q3 of 2027."

      It's analogous to why Gandhi agreed to back the British Empire in WWII: not because he liked them, but because he realised that his methods of nonviolence would work on the brits, while the nazis would cheerfully machinegun everyone and then shake hands over what a good job they did with the shooting.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday April 11 2021, @06:49AM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 11 2021, @06:49AM (#1135966) Journal
      I guess that sort of feeling explains why so many people attempt ridicule rather than say, have an principled stand. It's the iWin button of debate.
  • (Score: 1) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday April 11 2021, @11:44PM

    That's all well and good regardless. If people are willing to work for $wage, you've no right to tell them they can't.

    And if a group isn't, good on em. They can try renegotiating. And if they can't come to an agreement, they're either all fired or the company moves. That don't say anything bad about the company, that says those demanding more are demanding more than they're worth.

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