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Toyota, Honda oppose U.S. House electric vehicle tax plan:
Toyota Motor Corp (7203.T) and Honda Motor Co (7267.T) on Saturday sharply criticized a proposal by Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives to give union-made electric vehicles in the United States an additional $4,500 tax incentive.
Toyota said in a statement that the plan unveiled late Friday discriminates "against American autoworkers based on their choice not to unionize."
The bill, set to be voted on Tuesday by the Democratic-led House Ways and Means Committee as part of a proposed $3.5 trillion spending bill, would benefit Detroit's Big Three automakers, which have union-represented auto plants. read more
The proposal, estimated to cost $33 billion to $34 billion over 10 years, would boost to up to $12,500 the maximum tax credit for electric vehicles, up from the current $7,500. The $12,500 figure includes a $500 credit for using U.S.-produced batteries.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 14 2021, @11:54AM (13 children)
What are you talking about, "Establishment Joe"?? You guys were screaming at me he was a radical leftist that will lead this country into a socialist hell within the first year! How can he be a middle of the road establishmentist? Tell me you weren't lying all that time!
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday September 14 2021, @12:11PM (12 children)
You'll have to define "you guys" for starters. I don't think I'm one of "you guys". But, "Establishment Joe" is most definitely "Establishment". He's been in Washington longer than most Soylentils have been alive. In fact, I was still in high school when he first went to Washington, in 1972. Joe has had his fingers in ever major piece of legislation passed in the last 49 years. Joe was instrumental in Clinton's war on the "super predators" which sent millions of young black men to prison. Joe voted for the Patriot Act. I could go on, but Joe is very much Establishment, one of the Ruling Class who is above the law. Joe feeds that evil Military Industrial Complex, then feeds off of it. Do I need to go on?
All of that said, the Establishment is fucked. That is why Trump won. And, that is why half of the country believes that the election was stolen. The Establishment did whatever it took to make sure Trump was defeated, and seated one of their own. But, the Establishment is fucked.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by ilsa on Tuesday September 14 2021, @01:32PM (8 children)
Yes, it was "The Establishment" that defeated Trump. It couldn't possibly have been the fact that Trump is a racist narcissistic Nazi, and that literally any option would have been better than him. Joe won because of record voter turnout.
Joe is no golden boy but Republicans are outright psychotically evil. They don't even hide it anymore. And until they're replaced with a viable 2nd party that aren't a bunch of assholes, Democrats are the only option.
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday September 14 2021, @01:51PM (2 children)
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 14 2021, @03:53PM (1 child)
You really want to put Trump up toe-to-toe with race related quotes against anybody? We can even give you an advantage by keeping context out of it, like in the one that you present. I think even David Duke would come out better than Trump.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 14 2021, @03:59PM
Yeah, well, Trump had nothing to do with a bill to put millions of super predators into prisons for profit, now did he? You people just shit out that hatred for Trump almost as if it had meaning. Then you vote for real racists like Biden.
https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/joe-biden/the-10-worst-things-joe-biden-has-done-in-his-poli/ [pastemagazine.com]
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 14 2021, @06:48PM (4 children)
Trump: racist.
Enh. Maybe. Didn't really push racism in office. The times everyone screech RACISM!!! as if they were warning about the coming of the vampire plague, I went to read his executive orders and came away with more nuanced impressions, starting from his "MUSLIM BAN" that didn't ban a lot of muslims, and did ban a lot of other people, going forward. So not all that effective at racism, y'know.
Trump: narcissistic.
I'll believe that might be relevant when you show me a US president who wasn't.
Trump: nazi.
I have not seen one crumb of actual evidence (screeched hearsay doesn't become evidence by virtue of having been screeched) that he supported the policies of the national socialist workers' party of Germany, even translated into the US context. I have seen him push for policies that would have been absolute anathema to them, for example by way of preferring private enterprise to a command economy, and pushing for reductions and simplifications in regulations.
So, did you have actual specific evidence to support your allegations, or was this just a ritualistic twenty seconds' hate session?
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 14 2021, @07:52PM (3 children)
It is merely the millionth time Republican hypocrisy is being pointed out. Joe Biden is a filthy socialist, and a corporate hack. Which is it?
Don't worry, rhetorical question, we all know conservatives change their tune to suit the issue at hand. They have lost their integrity, morality, and sanity. Nazi is just the slur for fascists, and Trump was definitely a fascist though not necessarily a Nazi.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-hitler-mein-kampf/ [snopes.com]
So yes people made up some claims, but there is a little truth there and you can tell a nerve is hit when Trump says something is "the worst thing ever". So while there is no real proof he is a Nazi doughboy it certainly seems likely he is at least a fan of Hitler.
"A friend of mine sent me a book. A man who I think is Jewish, although I don’t know, sent me a book."
Hahaha, wow, even throws in a "my friend is Jewish" to try and counter the obvious implications. He only ever gets really mad when unfavorable facts about him surface, otherwise he just whines like a spoiled brat. There, happy with the tangent into Trump's fascist nature?
As for his racism? "Enh. Maybe. Didn't really push racism in office. " Lawl, he said so much racist shit as president, mainly tied to illegal immigration. No need to give you citations, some simple web searches will find what you're looking for. Might need to use a private browsing window so your searches are less biased.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 14 2021, @09:58PM (2 children)
*sigh* this horseshit again, delivered fresh and fly-covered from the people who have trouble with tough concepts.
No, Donald Trump's policies did not resemble those of Mussolini. You remember the italian dude Mussolini? The Fascist OG? Donald Trump's policies did not resemble Franco (Spain), Hitler (Germany), or even Verwoerd (South Africa). All of the above were fascists in important policy facets relating to everything from their treatment of the media, nationalisation and indirect management/control of business and industrial policy, authoritarianism and abrogation of the rule of law.
Words have definitions, and those definitions matter. "Fascist" isn't just a nasty word that tells us all that someone made you wet yourself while crying in the closet, it's a class of policies and structures that define a government philosophy, which had very little in common to do with what Donald Trump either espoused or enacted.
So, if you want to come up with the claim that Donald Trump was a big, bad, mean, doodoohead FASCIST - be specific on actual policies. Start with increasing and encroaching industrial policy and regulations, and removal of civil liberties. Specifics, not ill-defined whinings about how he might have had a jewish friend (or family member). Because (spoiler alert) if he wasn't interested in removing civil liberties? Not a fascist, go back to square 1.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 15 2021, @01:38AM
So you're a braindead moron, thanks for clearing that up!
(Score: 2) by ilsa on Thursday September 16 2021, @06:57PM
At this point you aren't fooling anyone with your dishonest answer. Just because he was _blocked_ from instituting draconian policies doesn't mean he didn't try. Just cause his insurrection attempt failed doesn't mean he didn't try.
His fake news thing was a direct pull from Hitler's playbook.
The only way you can possibly say he isn't fascist is if you intentionally ignored the landslide of evidence in front of your eyes.
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Tuesday September 14 2021, @07:12PM (2 children)
In what universe is Trump not part of "The Establishment"? Joe Biden is certainly a member, as is pretty much any high ranked member of the Fed and State Govs. You can also include pretty much anyone considered to be part of the 0.1% wealthy.
Don't delude yourself into thinking that Trump was somehow not an Establishment candidate.
The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 14 2021, @07:43PM (1 child)
If you want to have that broad a concept of the Establishment, then sure. Everyone who runs for an elected park attendant is part of the Establishment. Everyone who runs a business on their local town's main drag is part of the Establishment.
But if we're talking the governing establishment? They accepted him for one reason, and one reason only: a large number of really angry voters plugged their nose, forced their jaws apart with a stick, and crammed him down their gullet while tears leaked from the corners of their eyes. They couldn't kick him out with undermining the whole myth of their legitimacy - not that they didn't try, within the squirmy wriggles that their wriggleroom afforded them.
No wonder Hillary had a breakdown when she didn't get elected; she was supposed to win.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 14 2021, @08:15PM
LOL
"No wonder Hillary had a breakdown when she didn't get elected; she was supposed to win."
buttery males buttery males! Don't get excited now, it is just a meme for "but her emails"
Such projection, and the primary source was an asshole from infowars? Just cracks me up you're still screeching about Hillary Rodham Clinton while your fat conman is busy having a yearlong meltdown about being the biggest loser.
"They couldn't kick him out with undermining the whole myth of their legitimacy"
Funny how just 4+ years ago everything was great, the deep state vanquished, the government "establishment" unable to contain the mighty power of Trump! lololol then suddenly they are totally in control AFTER 4 years of your uber manchild.
More like the Republican shithead Comey threw Clinton under the bus. Hillary would have won if the leftwing wasn't so apathetic due to Democrat corruption. Trump lost 2020 because he was an unpopular fascist pig, not for any other reason.