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Key witness in Assange case jailed in Iceland after admitting to lies and ongoing crime spree
Sigurdur Thordarson, a key witness for the FBI against Julian Assange, has been jailed in Iceland. The notorious alleged hacker and convicted pedophile was remanded to custody in Iceland's highest security prison, Litla Hraun, on September 24. Þórðarson´s lawyer, Húnbogi J. Andersen, confirms that he is in custody. Thordarson was given immunity by the FBI in exchange for testimony against Julian Assange.
Thordarson was arrested the same day he arrived back in Iceland from a trip to Spain, and was subsequently brought before a judge after police requested indefinite detention intended to halt an ongoing crime spree. The judge apparently agreed that Thordarson's repeated, blatant and ongoing offences against the law put him at high risk for continued re-offending.
[...] Thordarson is a key witness for the United States Justice Department according to documents presented to a UK court in an effort to secure the extradition of Julian Assange. He was recruited by US authorities to build a case against Assange after misleading them to believe he was previously a close associate of his. In a recent interview with Stundin he admitted to fabricating statements to implicate Assange and contradicted what he was quoted as saying in US court documents. In fact he had volunteered on a limited basis to raise money for Wikileaks in 2010 but was found to have used that opportunity to embezzle more than $50,000 from the organization. Julian Assange was visiting Thordarson's home country of Iceland around this time due to his work with Icelandic media and members of parliament in preparing the Icelandic Modern Media Initiative, a press freedom project that produced a parliamentary resolution supporting whistleblowers and investigative journalism.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11 2021, @05:11PM
Funny how all people connected with shady conspiracies turn out to be bonkers, dead or a pedophile. Must be something in the water.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11 2021, @05:12PM (12 children)
...is given given immunity by the FBI in exchange for testimony against a man who exposed the dirty secrets of elected officials in the US (and elsewhere).
FBI... how low can you go?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by EJ on Monday October 11 2021, @05:28PM
Don't ask questions you don't want to know the answer to.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11 2021, @05:44PM (1 child)
They could catch fake terrorists to show they are doing a great job.
(Score: 2) by BsAtHome on Monday October 11 2021, @05:50PM
Ehm...
s/could catch/are catching/
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11 2021, @06:48PM (6 children)
The FBI is the domestic wing of the CIA, which is controlled by the Jews. The same people who control BLM and Antifa.
https://national-justice.com/ [national-justice.com]
(Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11 2021, @07:43PM (5 children)
You have it completely backwards. The CIA was founded by literal Nazis (your people), who were spirited away from serving justice by the US:
https://ips-dc.org/the_cias_worst-kept_secret_newly_declassified_files_confirm_united_states_collaboration_with_nazis/ [ips-dc.org]
The FBI used Nazis too:
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/27/us/in-cold-war-us-spy-agencies-used-1000-nazis.html [nytimes.com]
From what has been made public of their activities, the FBI and CIA appear to share much of the ideology of nazi/fascist/alt-right/conservative*/kkk/christian identity/whatever Nazis are re-branding themselves as, at the moment.
E.g.,
MKULTRA - horrific human experimentation that would make any Nazi proud
COINTELPRO - far-right white supremacist (Nazi-esq) operation against civil rights
And, the too numerous to list, campaigns of torture, assassination, terror, etc.
* Real conservatives are not these people, but Nazis have co-opted the term.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11 2021, @09:25PM (3 children)
Jesus fuck, you are stupid. That's how spying works. Your intelligence officers recruit the enemy as agents.
Also, Wild Bill Donovan would probably shoot you in the face for calling him a Nazi. Take your 1984 revisionism elsewhere.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11 2021, @09:40PM (2 children)
"Wild Bill Donovan" would have been sent to the gallows if there was rule of law in the US.
Your comment is a good example of what Upton Sinclair was referring to with, "wrapped in a flag".
“When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross”
(Score: 1, Troll) by stormreaver on Tuesday October 12 2021, @12:01PM (1 child)
Or masquerading as health care.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12 2021, @04:25PM
As your nic makes clear you are a stupid loser.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12 2021, @05:51PM
Nope. The OSS and thus the CIA was full of Jews. Remember the "lamp shades made of Jew skin" psyop? Do you think it's a coincidence Biden, the race traitor, was made president through election fraud while he mobilizes the FBI to hunt out "the #1 threat of white supremacy" while appointing nearly all Jews to cabinet positions, while NGOs (non-gentile organizations) bring in millions of hostile non-whites and teach them in our own schools (bolshevik babysitters) that whitey is inherently evil? The USA has been increasingly owned by the Jews since at least 1913. This is why we stupidly killed our racial brothers in WW1 and WW2, went to Vietnam (uss liberty? Kennedy assassination?) and have since been busy destabilizing the middle east for the Greater Israel project, and allowing the NGOs to ship those refugees into Europe, while White race traitors get rich?
As far as the FBI and civil rights. No non-whites should be in America. America is a nation founded by whites, for whites. The fact that they are still here is further evidence we have a parasitic infection. It starts from birth when brainwashed white parents let their newborn boys have their genitals mutilated, and later in childhood, when white children are taught the JEW psyop of Christianity. We have to break the spell and rid white nations of the Jew. The international Jew will undoubtedly start WW3 over any white nation trying to expel the parasite like they did in WW2, but it has to be done.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12 2021, @12:53AM
Giving people immunity in exchange for testimony may lead to false testimony just to get immunity. Then the government can claim they got the perpetrator.
(Score: 5, Touché) by FatPhil on Tuesday October 12 2021, @03:35PM
How long have you got? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FBI_controversies
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11 2021, @05:56PM (10 children)
If Mr. Assange is a citizen of Australia. That puts some responsibility on them to support him.
At some point in this circus, Australia should say enough is enough.
If not after this, then at what point do they start asking meaningful questions about due process for their citizen?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11 2021, @06:27PM (4 children)
You think they want him back?
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday October 11 2021, @06:31PM (3 children)
That was my initial response, but apparently some do. Either that or they finally woke up enough to go, uh, hey, that's our citizen you have there.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/sep/29/australia-reveals-it-raised-case-of-julian-assange-with-us-amid-kidnap-plot-claim [theguardian.com]
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 5, Informative) by Mykl on Monday October 11 2021, @10:14PM (2 children)
It's still taking a while for his case to be taken seriously by our government, because the Prime Minister at the time of the Chelsea Manning leak (John Howard) was furiously rolling onto his back in front of Bush Jr in an attempt to have his belly rubbed.
The Government at the time (Liberal/National Coalition) did everything they could to distance themselves from Assange and basically said to the US: "Do whatever you want". Public sentiment began to become much more sympathetic to Assange as more information came to light, and I think it was a factor that helped lead to the Lib/Nat defeat in 2007. Despite that, the new Labor Government didn't seem to care much more about Assange either.
Most Australians would like to see Assange freed, and there's finally enough recognition at the Government level that Assange's 1-way pre-booked ticket to Gitmo is not going to go well with the voters in Aus. I think the US believes the diplomatic fallout of stringing Assange up is manageable however, and so will ignore Australia's current representations.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12 2021, @05:15AM
Yup, even if our government got behind it - I doubt the US will care much. We're desperate and the US knows it as well - with Chinese White Elephant finally being called out (kudos to Scomo - don't like him much but at least he didn't turn like Kevin Rudd and called the South China Sea Bully for what it is), we need allies to meet that threat and the only option is the US and the US knows this too. So Assange is screwed in terms "effective" of help from his own government.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday October 12 2021, @03:38PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Freeman on Monday October 11 2021, @06:29PM
https://nypost.com/2021/01/05/julian-assange-can-return-home-to-australia-if-us-appeal-fails/ [nypost.com]
So, uh, did that fail?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/aug/11/julian-assange-loses-court-battle-stop-us-expanding-extradition-appeal [theguardian.com]
Nope, still ongoing, I guess?
Seriously though, how safe would he be in Australia or possibly more importantly, en route to Australia.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2020/11/28/julian-assange-wikileaks-australia/ [thenewdaily.com.au]
Blame the media?
https://consortiumnews.com/2021/06/30/australian-mps-to-biden-free-julian-assange/ [consortiumnews.com]
Better late than never?
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11 2021, @06:51PM
White/western nations are not controlled by their citizens. The International Jew is in control. Time to wake up Whitey. It's getting very late.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11 2021, @09:41PM (1 child)
I think you might be missing how far up the USA's arse the current Aussie administration is....
(Score: 1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12 2021, @05:19AM
I don't think we have a choice - we are either the US's beotch or China's.
I know which I prefer. We just aren't strong enough yet to stand on our own against China.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by aim on Tuesday October 12 2021, @11:48AM
Do you think the australian government would want to risk their shiny new AUKUS deal for nuclear submarines? I doubt the French would accept any kind of new deal after having been stabbed in the back, other potential contractors will probably also think twice at least.
(Score: 2) by Beryllium Sphere (r) on Monday October 11 2021, @06:28PM (11 children)
>Thordarson is a key witness
If you ever deal with Icelanders, they're used to everything foreigners do, but it's more natural in their culture to use the first name. The patronymic is just there to be a disambiguation if I understand right.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday October 11 2021, @06:36PM (10 children)
In the USA, business / formal / honorific is Mr./Dr. and Surname, whereas casual / friendly is Forename.
Casua/Friendly
Hey Bob, nice to see you!
Business/Formal/Honorific
Good to see you Mr. Anderson.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 4, Funny) by mhajicek on Monday October 11 2021, @08:03PM (8 children)
"You hear that Mr. Anderson?... That is the sound of inevitability... It is the sound of your death... Good bye, Mr. Anderson."
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday October 11 2021, @09:12PM (7 children)
Yes, I watch movies too and Matrix 4 is coming out. Maybe, they'll undo the magical non-science fiction stuff they did in #3. Then again, maybe they'll just Deus-Ex Machina that bad boy with nanites or something similar.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 4, Funny) by Mykl on Monday October 11 2021, @10:17PM (1 child)
Nah - it will be his Midichlorian count.
(Score: 3, Informative) by coolgopher on Monday October 11 2021, @10:34PM
+1 Cringe
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday October 12 2021, @05:50PM (4 children)
I've seen that, just out of a vague curiosity, and it was packed full of stuff, but because I've not seen 2 and 3, much of it was completely meaningless. I was working on the principle that I'd not see 4 anyway, so spoilers would be a non-issue.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday October 12 2021, @07:08PM (3 children)
2 and 3 didn't build a whole lot on the entire premise of #1. You are not missing much. A large section of one of them was literally a car chase, which was pretty interesting. #3 showed a lot more of outside of the Matrix kinds of stuff, but that's really kind of where it went of the rails at the end of #2 and start of 3. The conclusion left you wanting a bit something more as well. It's like the writers were like, hmm..., nothing else I want to add, poof, the end.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday October 13 2021, @03:32AM (2 children)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Wednesday October 13 2021, @07:35AM (1 child)
It was dumbed down for general consumption. In the original writings the machines were using the processing power of the humans brains.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 3, Interesting) by FatPhil on Wednesday October 13 2021, @08:24AM
In a proper brain-using matrix, as I imagine it, could use the power of all the brains to generate the shared fake experience that the brains would then be fed. It wouldn't work with only a small number of brains, they couldn't create a complex enough imagined universe to fool the brains that it was real for long. However, once you've got a critical mass, you have a "singularity" moment, and it would gain emergent intelligence great enough to fool any one of its individual nodes that what it was experiencing was real, and after that, there's no way back. Could have been a cool movie.
OTOH, don't waste time with wannabe-serious movies, and watch /Free Guy/ instead. It's basically Matrix-meets-Lego.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12 2021, @03:00PM
Depends where you are in the US, around here you virtually never use the surname or honorific.
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Monday October 11 2021, @08:13PM
And I had such a good feeling about this upstanding citizen being a sympathetic, credible witness against that criminal traitor enemy of the state, that weenie-poking cat-mistreating Julian Assange. Will justice ever be served?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Opportunist on Monday October 11 2021, @08:32PM (2 children)
Agent Miller: Mr. Thordarson, we know you're a convicted pedophile and have a few other things on your slate. But we are willing to make you an offer.
Thordarson: Yes?
Agent Miller: We'd need you to testify against Mr. Assange.
Thordarson: Uh... I know jack about that guy.
Agent Miller: We're willing to give you immunity in exchange for your testimony.
Thordardson: I see. Well, could you tell me what I know that he did so I can properly testify?
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday October 11 2021, @09:15PM
It almost worked, who says it can't still?
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Beryllium Sphere (r) on Tuesday October 12 2021, @01:16AM
Which is yet another reason not to allow scumbags in your social circle. If the authorities ever wish you ill, they can have just that kind of conversation with the scumbag.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Tuesday October 12 2021, @02:29AM (2 children)
The question is: why did he do that.
Either he held a grudge against Assange or he got a wad of cash from the FBI. If it's the latter, I'd like to see someone indicted States-side too.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12 2021, @04:39AM
"Informants" aren't illegal - they're the whole damn industry. Conspiracy, RICO, espionage, only require sworn statements to convict...
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday October 12 2021, @05:53PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves