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posted by hubie on Saturday March 25 2023, @12:03AM   Printer-friendly
from the artificial-artificial-intelligence dept.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/03/ethical-ai-art-generation-adobe-firefly-may-be-the-answer/

On Tuesday, Adobe unveiled Firefly, its new AI image synthesis generator. Unlike other AI art models such as Stable Diffusion and DALL-E, Adobe says its Firefly engine, which can generate new images from text descriptions, has been trained solely on legal and ethical sources, making its output clear for use by commercial artists. It will be integrated directly into Creative Cloud, but for now, it is only available as a beta.

Since the mainstream debut of image synthesis models last year, the field has been fraught with issues around ethics and copyright. For example, the AI art generator called Stable Diffusion gained its ability to generate images from text descriptions after researchers trained an AI model to analyze hundreds of millions of images scraped from the Internet. Many (probably most) of those images were copyrighted and obtained without the consent of their rights holders, which led to lawsuits and protests from artists.

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 25 2023, @12:19AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 25 2023, @12:19AM (#1298074)

    meaning it's highly censored

    • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Saturday March 25 2023, @01:23AM

      by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 25 2023, @01:23AM (#1298079) Journal

      No, I'm quite sure the censorship is a separate engine in most of these systems.

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Sunday March 26 2023, @04:01PM (1 child)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 26 2023, @04:01PM (#1298239) Journal

      I think it was trained only on free range artwork.

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      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday March 27 2023, @02:31PM

        by Freeman (732) on Monday March 27 2023, @02:31PM (#1298339) Journal

        No, that was the issue with Stable Diffusion, etc.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 25 2023, @01:12AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 25 2023, @01:12AM (#1298078)

    Where did the licensed images come from? Button mashing.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by darkfeline on Saturday March 25 2023, @02:31AM (4 children)

    by darkfeline (1030) on Saturday March 25 2023, @02:31AM (#1298083) Homepage

    Copyright is not natural. It is a purely artificial, legal limitation implemented inconsistently in a number of specific jurisdictions under the unproven premises that both 1. artists (and other creators) will not create as much without it and 2. that is significantly detrimental to society. (Personally, I would argue that both premises are blatantly false; lots of people create art as an uncompensated hobby and/or receive funding from willing supporters, and we now have a surplus of art, to the extent of being detrimental to society.)

    There is nothing "ethical" or "unethical" about AI art generation. It is merely a legal question.

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    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by HiThere on Saturday March 25 2023, @03:16AM (3 children)

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 25 2023, @03:16AM (#1298085) Journal

      There are other things, though, that could involve ethics. E.g. the use of images of people.
      I would definitely agree that copyright is separate from ethics, but that doesn't mean that ethics isn't involved. And there is definitely a large area where the ethics are unclear, if only because different groups of people vies them differently. (This, of course, makes the claim that the images are ethical either dubious, or implies that the images are extremely highly censored. Consider the various opinions that hunter, a bull-figher, a member of PETA and a Vegan would have.)

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      • (Score: 2) by guest reader on Saturday March 25 2023, @04:19PM (2 children)

        by guest reader (26132) on Saturday March 25 2023, @04:19PM (#1298122)

        I would definitely agree that copyright is separate from ethics

        Copyright is not separate from ethics. Copyright is a law. Laws are ethically right (laws against robbery) or ethically wrong (discrimination laws).

        • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Saturday March 25 2023, @05:40PM (1 child)

          by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 25 2023, @05:40PM (#1298128) Journal

          I think we're using language differently, as that seemed an example of law being separate from ethics. Would you prefer if I said "independent of"? But I feel that's too strong a statement, as there are correlations.

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          • (Score: 2) by guest reader on Saturday March 25 2023, @07:29PM

            by guest reader (26132) on Saturday March 25 2023, @07:29PM (#1298137)

            Yes, "independent of" makes it easier to understand for me. I would still argue that copyright law has connections to ethics. For example "authors can benefit from their work". At least the authors who published their work under some attribution, non-commercial or commercial license.

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Ingar on Saturday March 25 2023, @10:19AM (2 children)

    by Ingar (801) on Saturday March 25 2023, @10:19AM (#1298104) Homepage Journal

    Question: Ethical?
    Answer: Adobe!

    • (Score: 4, Touché) by Gaaark on Saturday March 25 2023, @10:43AM

      by Gaaark (41) on Saturday March 25 2023, @10:43AM (#1298107) Journal

      and with the added trust of Microsoft!

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    • (Score: 2) by ElizabethGreene on Sunday March 26 2023, @11:14PM

      by ElizabethGreene (6748) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 26 2023, @11:14PM (#1298270) Journal

      It's a bit jarring to see the words in the same sentence.

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