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posted by mrpg on Monday October 21 2024, @11:42AM   Printer-friendly
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It has been claimed that fish farming is a sustainable source of food that will help us feed the growing global human population while protecting wild fish populations – but this isn’t true.

“Fish farming is not a substitute for catching wild fish out of the ocean,” says Matthew Hayek at New York University. “In fact, it relies on catching wild fish out of the ocean.”

Hayek and his colleagues have shown that the amount of wild fish killed in order to feed farmed fish is between 27 and 307 per cent higher than previous estimates.

Farmed carnivorous fish eat multiple times more weight in wild fish caught from the ocean than is obtained by farming them, says Hayek. For instance, producing a kilogram of salmon may require 4 or 5 kilograms of wild fish.


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  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday October 21 2024, @03:54PM (4 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday October 21 2024, @03:54PM (#1377935)

    >its quite plausible ... that aquaculture tuna eats at least half as much other fish as wild tuna. Probably somewhat less than half, but at least half.

    Forget the data, just play thought experiment:

    Farmed tuna don't have to hunt for food, migrate, find mates.

    Farmed tuna don't have to run from predators, get eaten by predators, or fishing boats.

    Farmed tuna live under the sword of Damocles - the moment they are optimal marketable size: exit stage left, directly into the freezer.

    By those factors alone, farmed tuna should be expending far less calories than their wild caught counterparts. Probably much less than 50%.

    Yes, farmed tuna share the same genome with wild tuna, they look similar - but do they even taste similar? That depends, early versions tasted different enough that customers complained. Even if consumers can't tell the differences, there will be significant differences in the quality of the meat. Maybe better, maybe less parasites, but certainly a lot of less desirable differences along for the ride too.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by VLM on Monday October 21 2024, @04:09PM (3 children)

    by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 21 2024, @04:09PM (#1377941)

    I would generally agree with and further extend your remarks along the lines of

    migrate

    In theory, with modest effort, an aquaculture farmer could grow his fish in perfectly ideal water temp and ideal water quality, so the fish don't have to either suffer or move, pretty much ever.

    Sure by modest effort they might have to install some pipe, a pump, and a solar panel, or multiple ones so they can use IoT type stuff to turn on different pumps to achieve ideal water conditions based upon sensors. I'm not suggesting burying heating elements to grow tropical fish in Antarctica. Getting ideal temp for growth in a fish farm might be as simple as one pump with a warmer area of water and another pump with a cooler area of water and a thermostat selecting which one runs at any instant such that the fishies are happiest. I visited a trout farm this summer where they kind of did that, they controlled the temp of the hatchery by pulling hatchery circulation water from either a cooler or warmer pool. I would imagine this would scale up pretty well from the existing "olympic swimming pool" sized hatchery to something the size of a land-based farm.

    Another idea is there's probably some location underwater that would be ideal for fish if they could live there, but there's no reef or whatever it is they require ... well... make one out of recycled concrete or sink a scrapped ship there or similar. An interesting aquaculture strategy might be to "finish feed" medium to large fish by penning them above natural sources of small fish like an artificial reef. Build the perfect environment for feeder-fish on the bottom and then station larger aquaculture fish above it, like fertilizing a pasture for sheep, kind of. Given multiple pens you could graze rotate the big fish to different areas just like they do with pastured sheep.

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday October 21 2024, @04:19PM

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday October 21 2024, @04:19PM (#1377945)

      In my experience, anything built in a marine environment requires more than modest effort to maintain. Salt corrosion, sun exposure, wave action, extreme storms... there are precious few locations in our vast oceans that provide year round ideal circumstances for... anything.

      Along those lines, in my next lifetime - Matrix reset to 1960 - I would pursue the business of luxury submarine yachts. Go anywhere you like, but when a bad storm is closing in, submerge instead of scrambling for safe harbor. Make 'em big, out of cast concrete with non-rusting composite tension elements (instead of the traditional iron or steel rebar). Build once, cruise for centuries. Smuggle some 2030s solar panel and battery tech back to 1960 and make them self-sustaining mobile islands, producing their own fresh water and food.

      Only problem is: a $1B concrete submarine yacht probably only has carrying capacity for a dozen or so people, long term, even if it could host an exclusive short term party for hundreds. Looks like Hugo Drax did have the right inevitable conclusion after all in Moonraker.

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 21 2024, @11:37PM (1 child)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 21 2024, @11:37PM (#1378028) Journal

      In theory, with modest effort, an aquaculture farmer could grow his fish in perfectly ideal water temp and ideal water quality, so the fish don't have to either suffer or move, pretty much ever.

      Fish in continual movement have better quality and health BTW. When I toured a fish hatchery [tripadvisor.com] way back when, water was continually flowing through the tanks.

      • (Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday October 22 2024, @04:15PM

        by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 22 2024, @04:15PM (#1378128)

        I think in specific you are probably correct although in general I still like my idea of improving locations. It could be as simple as multiple redundant feeder stations convincing the fish to always swim to the next feeding area, which coincidentally ALSO happens to be an ideal fish growth environment. Rather than they just eat where they want or where its convenient for humans they could always be eating where its best to live.