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posted by janrinok on Tuesday May 30 2023, @01:19PM   Printer-friendly
from the we-want-you-to-do-things-OUR-way dept.

China appeals to Japan to halt export restrictions as chip war escalates:

China is urging Japan to repeal restrictions on the export of chip-making technology, citing violations of international and trade regulations.

Beijing's condemnation is the latest development in the ongoing chip war between the US and China, which has seen moves from both nations to thwart each other's semiconductor manufacturing prowess.

The Japanese government's move to impose a ban on chip exports comes days after China banned the use of Semiconductors manufactured by US-based chipmaker Micron, citing a cybersecurity issue.

[...] In January, the US convinced The Netherlands and Japan to join it in expanding a ban on exports of chip-making technology to China.

According to analysts, Washington's strategy to strike a deal with the two countries was a significant move, as some of the world's largest manufacturers of semiconductor manufacturing equipment are headquartered in these nations.

The US first imposed restrictions on exports of chips to China in 2015, extending them in 2021 and twice in 2022. The most recent restrictions were introduced in December.

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2023, @04:34PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2023, @04:34PM (#1308908)

    China is urging Japan to repeal restrictions on the export of chip-making technology

    Good, that means things are having the desired impact.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by RamiK on Tuesday May 30 2023, @05:50PM

      by RamiK (1813) on Tuesday May 30 2023, @05:50PM (#1308920)

      The article gives a false impression that Japan is responding to the Micro ban and China is responding to Japan's counter ban. However, the actual order of events is more like:
      1. The US tightened the 2022 export bans in January.
      2. Japan announced in March that they're following up and tightening their own rules and that will go into effect in June.
      3. G7 summit took place where it was agreed to "take action against China's economic coercion" on May 20th.
      4. China announced their ban on Micron on May 21st.
      5. The relevant Detroit convention took place on May 26th when the Chinese minister made the usual pro-globalization speech where he urged Japan to...
      6. The US stated that it "won't tolerate..." on May 27th.

      So, we're basically seeing China landing a few planned-in-advance responses to the G7 statement everyone was expecting at least since May. As for "desired impact" it will take months to see how things roll from here but I can tell you Japan just recently joined the WTO's MPIA and have agreed to have it handle their steel dispute with China (DS601) so they're clearly not willing to go all-fronts with the US against China.

  • (Score: 1) by AlphaSnail on Wednesday May 31 2023, @10:05AM (1 child)

    by AlphaSnail (5814) on Wednesday May 31 2023, @10:05AM (#1309022)

    Can they not, in all of China with all those already existing semiconductor facilities and factories producing every good imaginable along with over a billion people a great deal of which are very educated and practical, can they not just make their own stuff at this point? If I could make everything and they seem capable at this stage of doing so then why do they even need imports on such things? I've heard that precisely machined manufacturing tools are mainly what is sent to China but that sounds like an engineering problem they really should have no issue with and it would probably be even better for them to get that done in house anyways just for reasons of control (like having foreign nations cut you off). Can make a billion IPhones but not one chip fabricator?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2023, @08:09PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2023, @08:09PM (#1309098)

      The Chinese are great at ripping off others.

      Doing the basic inventing up front -- they are not so good at.

      Which is probably why they are not becoming very self supporting for this technology.