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America's new president gave an address to a joint session of Congress. The Los Angeles Times posted a full transcript of the speech (along with remarks from its staff that may require Javascript to view); Bloomberg uploaded a video of the event.
The New York Times called it "the most presidential speech Mr. Trump has ever given — delivered at precisely the moment he needed to project sobriety, seriousness of purpose and self-discipline."
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(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @08:10PM (14 children)
This was and is a legitimate comment; it is not acceptable to mark a comment as "Troll" just because it doesn't match your world view.
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Though not a supporter, I've watched a lot of Trump's speeches, and not only is he very consistent, but he's also delivered a lot of prepared, scripted remarks.
So, I was a bit flabbergasted when these so-called "journalists" were, across many media, surprised that Trump was able to deliver a rehearsed, scripted speech in a controlled and "presidential" tone. I couldn't deny it any further: These people have no idea what they're talking about, and do not actually pay any meaningful attention to Trump whatsoever. They really are Fake News.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @08:16PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-cia-speech-transcript/ [cbsnews.com]
It depends on what you mean by "consistent".
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @08:18PM (6 children)
Anyone describing trump as "consistent" and meaning anything other than "consistently prone to incoherent meandering" is trolling.
The only reason he's getting praised for this speech is because his prior performances have set the bar so low that simply doing an average job of delivering a speech to congress looks brilliant. Its kind of like being the smartest member of the three stooges.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @08:22PM (4 children)
Though Trump speaks at the irritatingly high level of abstraction at which any executive-class person speaks, he is in no way incomprehensible. His topics are consistent, and makes nearly the exact same statements for them every time; his speech last night was virtually a copy-paste of the remarks he's made throughout the campaign.
If you continue to delude yourself about Trump, then you'll continue to be angered by your inability to do any kind of harm to his agenda.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @08:36PM (3 children)
This is actually my conclusion too. Something is up with anti-trump people I read online. Either they are false-flagging for Trump by saying obviously wrong things, or they harbor some deep error in their worldview. It is just bizarre they don't just offer legitimate critiques when there are so many, so obvious to anyone.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @09:43PM
just because you critique his kindergarten-quality speeches doesn't mean you aren't also talking about his other problems
this thread is about the speech, hence people are talking about the speech
elsewhere I've talked about his long history of money-laundering for russian mafia and oligarchs, for example:
https://www.ft.com/content/33285dfa-9231-11e6-8df8-d3778b55a923 [ft.com]
https://www.ft.com/content/ea52a678-9cfb-11e6-8324-be63473ce146 [ft.com]
https://www.ft.com/content/549ddfaa-5fa5-11e6-b38c-7b39cbb1138a [ft.com]
http://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/12/19/the-curious-world-of-donald-trumps-private-russian-connections/ [the-american-interest.com]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-mafia-linked-figure-describes-association-with-trump/2016/05/17/cec6c2c6-16d3-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html [washingtonpost.com]
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday March 02 2017, @02:00AM (1 child)
A lot of it is manufactured. It is much like what the Koch brothers did with the Tea Party and the endless whisper campaigns about Obama being a secret Marxist Kenyan Muslim, or what-have-you. They hire a lot of PR firms and think tanks to drive it (in fact it was a key part of the GOP grand strategy formulated in the early 70's to do that). The Left has now sort of caught on to the same tactics.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 02 2017, @04:41AM
It is much like what the Koch brothers did with the Tea Party and the endless whisper campaigns about Obama being a secret Marxist Kenyan Muslim, or what-have-you.
If that is true, then it was profoundly counterproductive. But that wouldn't be the only time the Koch brothers burned money on such things.
(Score: 4, Funny) by edIII on Wednesday March 01 2017, @10:24PM
Pretty much. He's like the little kid that keeps shitting his pants, then spreading it all over the carpet for fun. The first day he acts like a normal potty trained child his parents jump up and down full of positive encouragement and praise. He used the toilet! We have a genius honey!
Let's not insult true greatness! Or I'll murderize you! Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Zz9zZ on Wednesday March 01 2017, @08:58PM (3 children)
The reality here is that the press is using his tactics against him. Fabricate criticisms, inflate claims, mock their enemy. Trump calls nearly every major press outlet "the enemy of the people" and what do you expect? I would prefer if they would calmly use facts to harass him on his lies, but human history shows that is a pipe dream.
~Tilting at windmills~
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 02 2017, @12:02AM (2 children)
I'm waiting for the news outlets to wise up, when being shut out of his news briefings, to broadcast instead old news stories of him.
Like the good old stories of his antics from the 80's, .. drunken orgies with nubiles, and cheating on his wife Ivana and children.
Like the song: "Trump the monster ego" sung to the tune of Puff the magic dragon, https://neilrogers.org/trump-monster-ego/ [neilrogers.org]
Then again they have plenty to talk about how every business venture of his, he has bankrupted.
There is plenty of malice for anyone willing to give a shit.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday March 02 2017, @02:02AM
That would immediately backfire. It would only confirm the narrative that they're out to get him, and that they are the enemies of the American people.
What they ought to do is pay Jon Stewart a lot of money to tell them to follow the advice he gave them for free on HuffPo a couple days ago: try practicing real journalism. It's the only real choice they have, but so far it looks like they're going to follow your playbook, and not Jon's.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 02 2017, @04:45AM
Actually, I'm waiting for them to do some old-school investigative journalism. But that would mean forgoing the daily press briefing from the WH and, instead, pounding the pavement, interviewing people, and looking through actual official government documents, etc. Very few "journalists" seem to actually do that any more. Yes, the scare quotes are quite intentional.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @11:38PM (1 child)
I must repeat .. once again ..
Wow! Just Wow!
You started off sounding like you were going to make some sense with your post, but then you took it straight down some rabbit hole off in cow-shit-for-brains foil-hat looney-land.
Get a grip man. See a doctor or something before you hurt an innocent child or more.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 02 2017, @12:01AM
Your comment is an excellent example.