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posted by Fnord666 on Sunday June 18 2017, @02:52PM   Printer-friendly
from the Turkish-coffee dept.

Turkey's president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, has furiously condemned the US decision to issue arrest warrants to 12 members of his security detail because of their involvement in a bloody brawl with peaceful protesters in Washington DC last month.

In a dramatic escalation of tensions between two Nato allies, Erdoğan said on Thursday that his government would "fight politically and judicially" against the warrants that had been issued earlier in the day.

[...] The ministry said in a statement that the ambassador was told the decision to issue arrest warrants was "wrong, biased and lacks legal basis".

"That the brawl in front of the Turkish Ambassador's Residence was caused by the failure of local security authorities to take necessary measures; that this incident would not have occurred if the US authorities had taken the usual measures they take in similar high level visits and therefore that Turkish citizens cannot be held responsible for the incident that took place," the statement said.

Erdoğan echoed these statements in televised remarks on Thursday night. "Why would I take my guards to the United States if not to protect myself?" he said.

[...] US senator John McCain called for Turkey's ambassador to the US to be removed from the country because of the fight and to charge those involved with the incident.

"After all, they violated American laws in the United States of America, so you cannot have that happen in the United States of America," McCain told MSNBC last month. "People have the right in our country to peacefully demonstrate and they were peacefully demonstrating."

The House committee on foreign affairs echoed the senators' call in a letter to secretary of state, Rex Tillerson. "Alarmingly, this behavior is indicative of the broad crackdowns on political activists, journalists and religious freedom in Turkey that have greatly harmed Turkish democracy in recent years," the letter said.

Source: The Guardian

In 2011 an incident happened at the UN, Ban-Ki Moon apologized to Turkey for a "misunderstanding" which left UN security officers injured.


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @02:57PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @02:57PM (#527477)

    Hold still for a pussy grabbing.

    Trump! Trump! Trump!

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Sunday June 18 2017, @03:11PM (4 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 18 2017, @03:11PM (#527480) Journal
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @03:34PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @03:34PM (#527488)

      Traurig!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @03:39PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @03:39PM (#527491)

      Was gonna make a simple post: "fuck that guy" but I'll just piggy back on yours!

      • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @04:07PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @04:07PM (#527502)

        Fuck yeah! Covfefe that guy!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @04:21PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @04:21PM (#527511)

          With a kinfefe!

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Bot on Sunday June 18 2017, @03:24PM (1 child)

    by Bot (3902) on Sunday June 18 2017, @03:24PM (#527485) Journal

    He has support from both USA and Russia, no matter his toxicity. No wonder he raises his voice. As long as he doesn't touch petrodollars or pulls some other stunt he is safe.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @04:39PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @04:39PM (#527518)

      Not to mention the UE to which threatens with stop being the "immigrants' gatekeeper."

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by realDonaldTrump on Sunday June 18 2017, @04:13PM (4 children)

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Sunday June 18 2017, @04:13PM (#527506) Homepage Journal
    It was my pleasure to welcome President Erdogan for his first visit to the White House in years. The American and Turkish peoples have been friends and allies for many, many decades. Turkey was a pillar in the Cold War against communism. It was a bastion against Soviet expansion. And Turkish courage in war is legendary. That is so true. So, so true. Turkish soldiers fought bravely alongside of American soldiers in the Korean War, and we haven’t forgotten what they did. In some ways, when we looked at their great bravery in the fight of Korea -- and in Korea, it was just something that our soldiers and our great generals still remember. Supreme Commander General Douglas MacArthur singled out and praised the exemplary valor of the Turkish soldier -- some of the great soldiers of the world, he said. Today we face a new enemy in the fight against terrorism, and again we seek to face this threat together. The Turkish people have faced horrible terrorist attacks in recent years and even recently. We offer our compassion to the victims, and we offer our support to the Turkish nation. We support Turkey in the first fight against terror and terror groups like ISIS and the PKK, that's the Kurdistan Workers' Party, and ensure they have no safe quarter, the terror groups. We also appreciate Turkey’s leadership in seeking an end to the horrific killing in Syria. The Syrian civil war shocks the conscience of the whole world. And all you have to do is look in the front page of the papers today and you'll see exactly what we're talking about. We also support any effort that can be used to reduce the violence in Syria and create the conditions for a peaceful resolution. President Erdogan and I are also discussing the need to reinvigorate our trade and commercial ties. These are areas where we can build our relationship that will benefit both of our countries. Military equipment was ordered by Turkey and the President, and we've made sure that it gets there quickly. I look forward to working together with President Erdogan on achieving peace and security in the Middle East, on confronting the shared threats, and on working toward a future of dignity and safety for all of our people. I thank him for visiting our country and joining us at the White House. It was a great honor to have him with us. Our fight is against ISIS. And against the PKK. And sometimes the fight comes to the Turkish embassy here in Washington. Where, let me tell you, people were carrying PKK flags. Which in Turkey is illegal. Because the PKK is banned. People were carrying those disgusting flags outside the embassy, while President Erdogan was there. While he was outside. They tried to ruin his visit, his beautiful visit to the White House. But they failed, because they are LOSERS. They lost the fight. I like fighters who don't lose. And President Erdogan always wins. So we’re going to have a lot of great success over the next coming years, and we want to get as many to help fight terrorism as possible. And that’s one of the beautiful things that’s happening with Turkey. The relationship that we have together will be unbeatable. #WINNING [twitter.com] #MakeAmericaGreatAgain [twitter.com]
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @04:23PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @04:23PM (#527512)

      More like #MakeAmericaTurkeyAgain #NotYoMamasThanksgiving

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by NotSanguine on Sunday June 18 2017, @06:14PM (2 children)

      There's no way this was written by Cheeto Jesus. There are complete sentences. There are ideas and thoughts linked together seamlessly. None of that can be hidden by the false historical references and the wall of text.

      No way Dickhead Jerkboy Tinea wrote this. You're showing yourself to be an impostor. For shame!

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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @06:35PM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @06:35PM (#527553)

    And your opinions of Trump are less significant than dust in the wind.

    I'm a liberal, but Clinton was an unacceptable choice, so I voted for Trump, and I am very glad I did. It's been immensely enjoyable to see all you clueless SJW skinny-jeans-wearing fixed gear bicycle riding latte-sipping twerps whine about Trump like it was the end of civilization.So thanks for the laughs, kids !

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by aristarchus on Sunday June 18 2017, @07:29PM (7 children)

      by aristarchus (2645) on Sunday June 18 2017, @07:29PM (#527564) Journal

      It's been immensely enjoyable to see all you clueless SJW skinny-jeans-wearing fixed gear bicycle riding latte-sipping twerps whine about Trump

      You claim to be a liberal? One who voted for Trump? This sounds more like something a Russian deep-cover operative might say . . .

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:36PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:36PM (#527577)

        "You claim to be a liberal? One who voted for Trump? This sounds more like something a Russian deep-cover operative might say . . ."

        You're paranoid, to a comical degree. I am the OP and I was born and raised in the US and I have NO affiliation with a foreign power, Russia or otherwise.

        I don't think Trump is a great guy, I think he is a shithead in many ways, but for me, Trump was the lesser of two evils compared to Clinton. You don't have to agree, and that's ok.

        • (Score: 2, Funny) by aristarchus on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:51PM (2 children)

          by aristarchus (2645) on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:51PM (#527583) Journal

          You're paranoid, to a comical degree. I am the OP and I was born and raised in the US and I have NO affiliation with a foreign power, Russia or otherwise.

          You know, I am the OA (original aristarchus), and this sounds just what a Russian operative would say if they were called out for being a Russian operative!

          • (Score: 2) by unauthorized on Monday June 19 2017, @10:12AM (1 child)

            by unauthorized (3776) on Monday June 19 2017, @10:12AM (#527834)

            Or a reasonable person who dislikes conspiracy nutjobs.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @03:53PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @03:53PM (#527966)

              To be fair, this thread passed 'reasonable' a long time ago.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by TheRaven on Monday June 19 2017, @10:08AM (1 child)

        by TheRaven (270) on Monday June 19 2017, @10:08AM (#527833) Journal
        I thought Trump seemed like a better choice than Clinton. With Clinton, you continue the gradual boiling-of-the-frog slide towards authoritarianism. With Trump, you try to do it so fast that people will notice and there's a better chance that they'll react. I don't think either would make a good president, but the one that you get in reaction to Trump is likely to be a lot better than the one that you get building on top of Clinton's efforts.
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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @04:06PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @04:06PM (#527969)

          I get the boiled frog theory. To a large degree, I even agree with it. We are stuck with a boil-the-frog, steal as much and as quick as possible administration now, so I hope that metaphorically lighting everything on fire will allow us to build something better on the ruins. It's the only glimmer of optimism I have. But the problem with the boil quickly plan is that it is also dangerous. Worst case, having a massive irrational narcissist as head of the largest military on our planet could boil the frog quickly by dooming millions to billions of people to pain, suffering and death. It seems like a really big gamble to risk the worst case in hopes people will come to there senses beforehand.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @03:41PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @03:41PM (#527964)

        I'm French and I hate hipsters like most of the world out there.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Lagg on Sunday June 18 2017, @07:43PM (5 children)

      by Lagg (105) on Sunday June 18 2017, @07:43PM (#527568) Homepage Journal

      What the fuck is it with you people? It's so unlike anything else I've seen in US politics here that people fanatically defend a president - when I remember one thing uniting us was equal disdain - and say shit that looks like emboldened speech from a 9 year old girl that was copy and pasted or adapted from somewhere else.

      The people you see post stuff like that aren't being taken seriously by anyone - just FYI. They're specifically meant to be caricatures specifically to upset the SJWs and the like in order to make actual thinkers look like unapproachable idiots. You aren't giving the libtards the ol' one-up by saying "He's your president, deal with it". You're parroting speech from people that don't understand how democracy works.

      Also, if people who like Trump seriously do so because he makes the most easily offended people in the world - SJWs - offended: That is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen next to the idea of SJWs in itself.

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      • (Score: 0, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:27PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:27PM (#527575)

        "You're parroting speech from people that don't understand how democracy works."
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        The US isn't a democracy.

        • (Score: 2) by Lagg on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:46PM (1 child)

          by Lagg (105) on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:46PM (#527581) Homepage Journal

          I would normally pass this as sarcasm trying to express the point but I'm not sure anymore. Because this is actually something people like to say as if to go "well america sucks at democracy so it doesn't deserve to be a republic".

          Speaking of that though, I saw shit like that (this project isn't a democracy) from people that couldn't come up with a justification to be pricks in open source. Recall seeing the same kind of arguments being used for libreboot and other drama. Because one thing both the "liberals" and "conservatives" like to do is hijack the principles of democracy in one direction or the other if it suits their argument.

          America's status as a shit democracy was kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy of people not wanting it to be one mixed with people that thought it couldn't be a republic, I feel. Other people will repeat the spirit of that statement thinking that the opinion or well-to-doness of their representative is anywhere on the same stratosphere as their own.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @04:38PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @04:38PM (#527995)

            I wouldn't take it as sarcasm. The US preaches "Democracy" pretty hard, especially to ourselves. It's almost as if we are trying to convince ourselves of something we really don't believe.
             

            On the other hand, plutocracy may be an appropriate term for the US. See "Free Speech Zones" or
            Testing Theories of American Politics [princeton.edu]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:40PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:40PM (#527579)

        "Also, if people who like Trump seriously do so because he makes the most easily offended people in the world - SJWs - offended: That is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen "

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        You score a FAIL in reading comprehension. I specifically explained that voted for Trump BECAUSE I liked Trump better than Clinton.
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        If Sanders had been the candidate I'd have voted for Sanders. The Democratic party fucked itself when it made sure Bernie was not the candidate. You anti-Trump people should rightly be very pissed off at your own Democratic party for that.

        • (Score: 2) by Lagg on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:58PM

          by Lagg (105) on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:58PM (#527586) Homepage Journal

          You fail at elective responsibility and you're gonna fail hardcore at history in about 10 years. Also your bizarre ellipsis style made me realize you're the one that thinks the US isn't a democracy which plays into the hands of the federal government quite well. So you fail at the personal responsibility we all have to watch that tree of liberty and protect it, too. The republicans I grew up around that are all "but muh guns" right now have that level of love for their country at least.

          All you're telling me is that there is such a thing as dumb and complacent liberals too. You know assuming this isn't just a big ol' trollbasket left on my porch that you pooped in. Granted, I know that people who call themselves liberals can be no less mean and judgemental than the next person. Which is why you'll often see me passionately reject the label.

          Now back to my LGBT parade, gun control march, SF jazz event and transgender orgy. Because boy oh boy if there's one thing about me it's that I'm all about the democratic party doncha know [soylentnews.org].

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