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posted by martyb on Thursday August 16 2018, @09:57AM   Printer-friendly
from the What-would-Emma-Lazarus-say? dept.

CBS News reports:

The Trump administration is expected to issue a proposal in coming weeks that would make it harder for legal immigrants to become citizens or get green cards if they have ever used a range of popular public welfare programs, including Obamacare, four sources with knowledge of the plan told NBC News.

The move, which would not need congressional approval, is part of White House senior adviser Stephen Miller's plan to limit the number of migrants who obtain legal status in the U.S. each year.

[...] Though its effects could be far-reaching, the proposal to limit citizenship to immigrants who have not used public assistance does not appear to need congressional approval. As the Clinton administration did in 1999, the Trump administration would be redefining the term "public charge," which first emerged in immigration law in the 1800s in order to shield the U.S. from burdening too many immigrants who could not contribute to society.


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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 16 2018, @05:50PM (8 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 16 2018, @05:50PM (#722369) Journal

    Correction: ASOCIAL nationalist asshole. Try to keep up.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @05:56PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @05:56PM (#722376)

    You realize admitting you're a bad person doesn't magically make you a good person right? Trump sure is trying to sell that idea, but apparently that is the limit where society says "nope, you went over the edge of crazy pal."

    Congrats, you are on the level of Trump!

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 16 2018, @06:20PM (6 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 16 2018, @06:20PM (#722399) Journal

      WTF did I admit to being a "bad person"? Perhaps you are less than literate. An ANTIsocial asshole would probably be a "bad person".

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @06:37PM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @06:37PM (#722411)

        nationalist asshole == bad person

        Except in times of war it correlates strongly with greedy, selfish, uncaring and willing to do "bad things" to "the enemy". You have repeatedly shown this to be an accurate description of yourself.

        Most conservatives are actually quite good and nice people, right up until you start finding out about their nationalist / racist sides. Then nice is out the window and "waterboarding isn't torture" becomes an actual statement made by a hum... *person*.

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 16 2018, @06:53PM (2 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 16 2018, @06:53PM (#722422) Journal

          You are expressing an opinion. Your opinion has little to do with reality. Waterboarding? You might want to search this site for instances of that word, associated with my name. I've never made excuses for waterboarding. At the very most, I will note that maybe waterboarding is less torturous than some other forms of torture. Except, it is still torture.

          I strongly suspect that I am someone and something completely outside of your experience. Because you are unable to relate - I become a "bad person".

          Let's try a little thought experiment. Would you prefer to be a predator, or prey? You answer that however you see fit, and I'll get back to you.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @09:50PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @09:50PM (#722537)

            Your strong suspicions are wrong, I've gotten a very good idea of who you are. You're better than some conservatives but you have blind spots and you fall into some very nasty beliefs. I'm glad you think waterboarding is a form of torture, now go convince the other nationalist creeps who DO think it is ok.

            The form of nationalism Trump is spouting, and you are here defending, is pretty nasty and historically has led to quite a few human rights abuses. It boils down to fear and hatred, sometimes more of one than the other.

            As to your question, it is stupid. It isn't a thought experiment it is a simple choice. Are all old people this dumb?

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday August 17 2018, @01:22AM

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday August 17 2018, @01:22AM (#722629) Journal

              As to your question, it is stupid. It isn't a thought experiment it is a simple choice. Are all old people this dumb?

              So - you are unable to "think outside the box".

              You answer that however you see fit, and I'll get back to you.

              Note that I didn't restrict you to a simple yes/no or true/false or black/white answer. Answer however you see fit.

              The most acceptable answer would have been "neither".

              https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sheep+dog+defending+flock [youtube.com]

              In any of those videos, you can find socialists, and antisocialists. The stars in each of them are the asocial personnas.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Thursday August 16 2018, @07:04PM (1 child)

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday August 16 2018, @07:04PM (#722430) Journal

          Then nice is out the window and "waterboarding isn't torture" becomes an actual statement made by a hum... *person*.

          The Democrats in Congress seemed to have no problem with it, or else they would have impeached Bush and Cheney when they got the majority back. They didn't. They also failed to close Guantanamo when Obama held the Whitehouse and they had a majority in the House and Senate.

          I wish they had done. I wish they had exhibited some shred of morality or integrity. But they didn't because they are bankrupt and apostate.

          Torture is a crime against humanity. Nobody should support it. Anyone who does it deserves summary execution.

          --
          Washington DC delenda est.
          • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Saturday August 18 2018, @01:51AM

            by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Saturday August 18 2018, @01:51AM (#723019) Homepage Journal

            When ISIS is doing things that nobody has ever heard of since medieval times. They chop off the citizens' or anybody's heads in the Middle East, because they're Christian or Muslim or anything else. We have that and we’re not allowed to do anything. We’re not playing on an even field. Would I feel strongly about waterboarding. As far as I’m concerned we have to fight fire with fire. Torture works. I feel it works. I asked my intelligence guys, does it work? They said, "oh, we don't call it torture, sir, we call it enhanced --" I said screw the political correctness, give me the answer! The answer was yes, absolutely. Don't tell me it doesn't work, it absolutely works. And don't worry, we're doing the legal on that one. Bush Jr. looked into the legal, we're taking another look. Because he was a VERY FOOLISH President, the worst until Obama came along. We're going to be legal. 100%. And fortunately we don't have Songbird McCain in the way. Because he caught cancer!!!