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posted by mattie_p on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:21PM
from the no-really-do-it dept.

By now, you have had the chance to read the updates of both NCommander and Barrabas. Nonetheless, you may still be wondering quite a few things about the site and its staff. Here is your chance to ask us anything. These questions can be general in nature, in which case the staff will select a spokesperson to answer it, or it may be specific to an individual. If the question is for an individual, please ensure you identify that person specifically enough.

We will select the best questions from the thread and provide answers to the community. These questions may not be the highest rated, although we will probably use those first.

In keeping with tradition, ask as many as you'd like, but please, one question per post.

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Well, we've survived our first week as a functional website, and have yet to go belly up because of it. The speed and growth of our community is staggering to say the least, and we are working hard to get this site fully operational. I'm pleased to announce that a development VM is now available for public consumption, and if you're interested in site development, one should join us in #dev on irc.soylentnews.org. Beyond that though, I've got a few points to address on and updated statistics to share ...
You Asked, Soylent Responds! 93 comments

Based on your questions from a little over 10 days ago, we have our first batch of responses. I want to apologize for the delay, as everything has been moving so quickly that we're still getting our act together in so many ways. Remember that we were still in the very early stages a month ago, so bear with us in our growing pains. We chose a large number of questions, mostly highly rated ones from the community, with some additional questions that I felt deserved answers. Read on for answers from the site leadership.

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• Bottom lineBottom line(Score: 5, Insightful) by TrumpetPower! on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:23PM

by TrumpetPower! (590) <ben@trumpetpower.com> on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:23PM (#2627) Homepage

How do you plan on making money, and what happens if you don't make enough?

b&

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• Re:Bottom lineRe:Bottom line(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:25PM

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:25PM (#2632)

I don't believe that money is the "bottom line" of this site.

• Re:Bottom lineRe:Bottom line(Score: 5, Insightful) by mhajicek on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:28PM

by mhajicek (51) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:28PM (#2634)

True, but running a site requires a certain amount of money.

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• Re:Bottom lineRe:Bottom line(Score: 0) by crutchy on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:46PM

by crutchy (179) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:46PM (#2834) Homepage Journal

i wonder if debian would be willing to host soylent news, if it adopts similar foss principles (which it seems to be), or maybe one of the other foss hosts

don't necessarily need to use their domain (could use a freebie from freedns.afraid.org if they become really desperate) but the foss community should be fairly supportive of a not-for-profit discussion forum for geeks, and organizations like the linux and apache foundations no doubt have some fairly wealthy backers.

• Re:Bottom line(Score: 1) by edIII on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:42PM

by edIII (791) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:42PM (#2978)

It would be nice to be able to donate at some point too.

There was also an article about Tidbit. I'm very interested to know just what the viability of cryptocurrency mining using client-side architectures would be.

If the mining could generate enough revenue from the user base to replace advertising, that may be all we need to keep the site alive and functional without external financial support.

I'm not opposed to that, or running a native app to donate processing cycles to SoylentNews.

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• Re:Bottom lineRe:Bottom line(Score: 1) by mcgrew on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:07PM

by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:07PM (#2862) Homepage Journal

Well, my site is only fifteen bucks per year, but soylent needs a bit more than I do. But I, too, wonder what will happen if they can't get cash. I hope they're getting advertisers, at least enough to break even.

In my case, the money for my site comes from the books, which are the only reason it exists. But like I said, my needs are very, very minimal.

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• Re:Bottom lineRe:Bottom line(Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:36PM

by frojack (1554) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:36PM (#2929) Journal

What about Memberships?

• Re:Bottom line(Score: 1) by Jerry Smith on Sunday February 23 2014, @09:20AM

by Jerry Smith (379) on Sunday February 23 2014, @09:20AM (#5132) Journal

Rather than slashvertisements I would be much more tolerant of a marketing poll.

Although the idea is good, the polls on 'that other site' have a major disclaimer, big enough to validate serious doubts.

I'm positive towards a quick and easy kind of tipjar, via amazon or paypal.
Make 2 options, a nice (few dollars) and a royal one (tens of dollars). The app stores have made it very easy to pay a few dollars, it's a model that could work for soylent. Make it HARD to make a payment more than once a week, to avoid hijacking or other abuse.
Just make the 'nice' option small enough for my SO not to notice please.

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• Re:Bottom lineRe:Bottom line(Score: 2, Funny) by crutchy on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:28PM

by crutchy (179) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:28PM (#2923) Homepage Journal

or maybe a service to help connect companies with nerds for hire

soylent could build in some kind of feature for tipping users based on their skills (kinda like linkedin). skills could be demonstrated either by having worked with a fellow user, having used a program developed by them, having read about them in journals etc, or how they portray their knowledge/skills in solylent comments, journals and the like.

companies could come to soylent and put a dollar offer on the table, users could accept, and soylent could provide the company with a preview of a selection of user tips for the company to review. users could also set a minimum offer and put some resume stuff in to help with the process.

just a thought

• Re:Bottom line(Score: 1) by EvilJim on Thursday February 20 2014, @11:26PM

by EvilJim (2501) on Thursday February 20 2014, @11:26PM (#3867) Journal

Why the 'funny' mod mods?, this sounds interesting.

• Re:Bottom lineRe:Bottom line(Score: 3, Interesting) by VLM on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:51PM

by VLM (445) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:51PM (#2732)

For what its worth I'd pay more than zero but less than "not very much" to gain control over where vlm@soylentnews.org and/or http://vlm.soylentnews.org/ [soylentnews.org] forward to. You want to charge enough to not front for spammers, however. Maybe on a delay or only up while $karma > 0 &&$subscription_paid_up == "Y" or whatever. Or for the total noobs $karma > 0 &&$subscription_paid_up = "Y".

• Re:Bottom line(Score: 2, Interesting) by Jaruzel on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:14PM

by Jaruzel (812) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:14PM (#2802) Homepage Journal

Following up on that... how about a small charge for username@solyentnews.org email forwarding (or even better on-site secure (web-)email at mail.soylentnews.org) ?

-Jar

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• Re:Bottom line(Score: 4, Informative) by maxwell demon on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:36PM

by maxwell demon (1608) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:36PM (#2884) Journal

Probably his business plan is:

1. Start Slashdot clone.
2. ???
3. Profit!

SCNR

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• Re:Bottom lineRe:Bottom line(Score: 2, Informative) by Barrabas on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:34PM

by Barrabas (22) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:34PM (#2926) Journal
For the convenience of readers, several answers are in one response.

How do you plan on making money?

I plan on taking community consensus.

So far I've seen discussion of seven income types. I've thought them through and have notes and observations which should inform discussion.

I'm putting it all down on paper in a vision statement which should be published in about a week, although I'm finding that things take much longer than expected.

The ones I have so far:

• Donations
• Subscriptions
• [selling] Swag
• Advertizing
• Job listings (viz. Slashdot "Jobs" link)
• Sponsors ("This week's bandwidth is provided by...")
• Paid reviews

If you have more suggestions for income channels, please post them below & I'll include them in the vision statement.

What happens if you don't make enough?

I have set aside $10K to run the site for the first year, we have that long to establish our brand and break even. If we aren't successful then, I'll probably leave to pursue other interests. How much did this site set you back so far? Total startup costs are under$1000, a full accounting will be in the vision statement. I expect an additional $1000 in Business/Legal/CPA fees (mostly incorporation fees) and$200-$300/mo. in bandwidth. Nowadays, you can start an internet revolution for under$1000. Who knew?

[Here are the projected expenses]

If we don't hire anyone in the first year, our expenses will be mostly for bandwidth. Sys estimates this at $200-$300/month, which is consistent with the estimated bandwidth for Slashdot today. Slashdot of 2007 used an estimated $1400/mo, and slashdot at its peak used even more. Extrapolating from the first day's usage data, we're using about 30% of the bandwidth at our current linode tiers, which cost$100mo. Refer: 2nd day stats [dropbox.com].

Note: Someone should check my math.

Where is the tip jar?

Until we choose a business model, this is still "officially" a for-profit venture. I don't think it fair to solicit donations under that model.

Have you been contacted by the NSA?

What will you do when [the NSA] comes?

Could you put a dead man icon on the site [to show us when this happens]?

Not yet, consult a lawyer, probably not.

I can't answer these at the present time due to the liquid state of our governance and business model. Simply put, if this happens it will affect everyone involved with running and developing the site, some of which may have families and jobs to consider.

It seems reasonable to have a clearly-worded statement of intent and policy regarding these issues. I'll put it on my (ever-growing) list of items.

Oh, and to the best of my knowledge, we've not been contacted or compromised by any government agency or individual. Let me know if this is somehow "weasel worded" and I will rephrase.

• Re:Bottom line(Score: 3, Insightful) by SpallsHurgenson on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:07PM

by SpallsHurgenson (656) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:07PM (#2952)

Regarding your options for getting money:

Donations are fine. I see no problem with a tip-jar even if you are a for-profit website; if you are doing a good job, there is no reason not to accept a little cash on the side or even to solicit donations.

Advertising is okay, so long as it is discrete, and on-topic. Just be aware that most of your users are tech-savvy enough to install ad-blockers, so most of them won't be seeing the ads anyway.

Swag is always a fun option, but - unless you dedicate large portions of the site to hawking it - it's also brings in very little money. It's less a way of bringing in cash and more a way to market your brand.

Paid reviews are probably not a good idea. First of all, it brings up conflict of interest issues; if you accept a paid review for a product, will you later run a story about how that same product catches fire if you plug it in? Second, if there was one message yelled loud and clear during the Slashcott, it was that most people are more interested in the comments than any articles you may put up. We're here for the discussion, not the editorial content.

Job Listings sound neat, but that's a really hard market to get into and will likely require staff to maintain the listings and handle customer service. Soylentnews.org is unlikely to be the first place recruiters look for new hires; costs would probably fast outrun any income earned.

Memberships and subscriptions can be tricky; one of the strengths of the Slashdot community was that it was the content of an individual's comments that were value more than anything else. It didn't matter if you got the first post, or were had a low UID - if you sounded like an idiot, you would get modded down. On the other hand, even the lowliest of the anonymous cowards could end up with a +5 Insightful post if he had something of value to say. It was a very democratic and meritorious system. You want to be careful not to upset that balance by giving subscribers any advantage over the hoi polloi. On the other hand, people who pay for a subscription may expect certain benefits. Finding some sort of equitable harmony between these two conflicting desires can be tricky. Personally, I'd be happy with "no adds and a little gold star next to my UID" if I were a subscriber, but others may want more. On the other hand, I would also be less likely to pay a monthly (or yearly) subscription fee than a one-time "membership" fee if that were all I got.

My two cents, as a joe-average user.

• Re:Bottom line(Score: 1) by demonlapin on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:36AM

by demonlapin (925) on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:36AM (#3014) Journal
You could use the Apple (IIRC?) approach - put a line in that says "We have never been asked to disclose any information to the NSA or any other part of the US Government."
• Re:Bottom line(Score: 2) by TheRaven on Tuesday March 04 2014, @11:20AM

by TheRaven (270) on Tuesday March 04 2014, @11:20AM (#10554) Journal
$200-300/month in bandwidth?!?!?! That's insane for a site with no large image or video hosting. Who have you talked to about it? Even paying full retail and including hosting, that's several TB/month of transfer, and if you're paying anything like full retail with that kind of volume then you're idiots. -- sudo mod me up • Re:Bottom line(Score: 1) by Techwolf on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:27AM by Techwolf (87) on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:27AM (#3123) This an answer that need to be addressed very soon. I've seen community sites spring up and die due to not securing a revenue stream soon in the progress. What happen is when the site started to get into dire situation with bills and had to resort to last minute changes to the site to bring in revenue, the result was not pretty and site soon went *poof*. The sites I've seen flourish got a revenue stream early on and didn't have to resort to those last minute changes out of desperation. • You said "anything"...You said "anything"...(Score: 5, Funny) by mhajicek on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:25PM by mhajicek (51) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:25PM (#2631) How should the economic issues of labor surplus due to automation be solved? -- The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek • Re:You said "anything"...Re:You said "anything"...(Score: 5, Funny) by bacon on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:32PM by bacon (280) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:32PM (#2707) Toppling the ruling class ought to do it. Taking down those with 2 digit UID's would probably be a good place to start. • Re:You said "anything"...Re:You said "anything"...(Score: 2, Funny) by dast on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:35PM by dast (1633) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:35PM (#2710) Say what now? • Re:You said "anything"...Re:You said "anything"...(Score: 5, Funny) by VLM on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:39PM by VLM (445) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:39PM (#2716) Ah if you had a three digit UID like us old timers, you'd have gotten the joke. Noobs these days. Now get off my lawn. • Re:You said "anything"...Re:You said "anything"...(Score: 1) by Spinlock on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:19PM by Spinlock (1021) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:19PM (#2874) Imagine how disappointed I am, that I came so close to UID 1024. • Re:You said "anything"...Re:You said "anything"...(Score: 1) by FatPhil on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:13PM by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:13PM (#2957) Homepage There was very close attention to the UID progress - 1024 was in demand, and probably went within a fraction of a second of 1023. -- Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves • Re:You said "anything"...(Score: 1) by demonlapin on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:42AM by demonlapin (925) on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:42AM (#3018) Journal He said over here [soylentnews.org] that he had the page loaded and filled out and was ready to go. At first, I believed that. Then I noticed that the comment where he revealed the origin of his success is... #1337. Be careful, folks. Ol' KibiByte is the man, behind the man, behind the man. • Re:You said "anything"...(Score: 4, Funny) by LaminatorX on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:09PM by LaminatorX (14) <{laminatorx} {at} {gmail.com}> on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:09PM (#2742) I knew we should've made Jack-booted Thugs a launch-critical feature request. • Re:You said "anything"...(Score: 1) by Covalent on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:06PM by Covalent (43) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:06PM (#2908) Journal Hey! -- You can't rationally argue somebody out of a position they didn't rationally get into. • Re:You said "anything"...(Score: 1) by theluggage on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:42PM by theluggage (1797) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:42PM (#2932) How should the economic issues of labor surplus due to automation be solved? Clearly answered in the name of this site. Make room! Make room! • Future economicsFuture economics(Score: 1) by Barrabas on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:59PM by Barrabas (22) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:59PM (#2946) Journal How should the economic issues of labor surplus due to automation be solved? I actually have a proposal for solving this. One great aspect of being in this community is that you get exposed to new ideas, see problems ahead of time, and can brainstorm solutions. Then a bunch of really smart people will give you feedback.(*) Briefly, it appears that the world is on the brink of becoming a post-scarcity society. The short story Manna [marshallbrain.com] by Marshall Brain nicely illustrates the ramifications of this. It's short and an easy read, so consider checking it out. There is a considerable weight of opinion among economists, if not outright consensus, that the post-scarcity model is inevitable. The problem is that no one knows how to get from here to there - there's no "transition" plan. This change may have already begun, viz. the popularity of the phrase "another jobless recovery". When you only need 90% of the workforce to create the goods and services for 100% of the population, what do you do with the remaining 10%? I have an idea of how to solve this. Sadly, only a fully fleshed-out proposal with reasoning and reference would do the subject justice, and this is not the place or the time to do it. Perhaps we can start a discussion in a few months, but not here and not today. (*) I don't want my comic picked apart by nerds. I'm taking it to a comic book convention. - Fry • Re:Future economics(Score: 1) by mhajicek on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:11AM by mhajicek (51) on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:11AM (#2989) Looking forward to hearing your ideas when the time comes. I've been thinking about this for some time, but most of the people I have to talk with seem to think the future will be much like the past. -- The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek • Re:Future economics(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 02 2014, @11:22AM by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 02 2014, @11:22AM (#9520) Toppling the ruling class There is a considerable weight of opinion among economists, if not outright consensus, that the post-scarcity model is inevitable. There's a fellow who said something related: "The future has already arrived. It's just not evenly distributed yet." --William Gibson Note that Socialist candidate for Seattle's city council Kshama Sawant (an Economics professor) campaigned on these issues (and won). The problem is that no one knows how to get from here to there FDR had this figured out following the previous bust of the boom and bust Capitalism model: After someone reaches the income level of Very Comfortable (at that time it was$30,000), the marginal tax rate becomes 100 percent.
(He settled for 94 percent; Reaganomics reversed things and look how that has turned out.)

When you only need 90% of the workforce to create the goods and services for 100% of the population, what do you do with the remaining 10%?
You give everyone a paycheck and send them home.
When there isn't enough work for everyone, everyone simply does a little less of the existing work.
They do this at a cooperative that has been around since 1956 [googleusercontent.com]
(orig) [rdwolff.com] (and which is now much bigger).

The elephant in the room in the USA since 1968 has been that worker productivity has gone up but wages haven't [thinkprogress.org].
France figured this out years ago and shortened the work week there (and keeping wages up).
The problem we have in the USA is money in the electoral process [movetoamend.org].

-- gewg_

• To NCommanderTo NCommander(Score: 3, Insightful) by Kira on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:27PM

by Kira (1868) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:27PM (#2633)

Why are you so awesome?

• Re:To NCommanderRe:To NCommander(Score: 1) by cwix on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:25PM

by cwix (873) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:25PM (#2752)

From what I understand he did a large amount of the work getting slash running.

• Re:To NCommanderRe:To NCommander(Score: 3, Informative) by ticho on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:08PM

by ticho (89) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:08PM (#2794) Homepage Journal

No, that's just the result of him being awesome. The truth is, nobody knows why he is awesome. He's an enigma.

• Re:To NCommander(Score: 1) by stderr on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:25PM

by stderr (11) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:25PM (#2966) Journal

... inside a riddle, wrapped in bacon.

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• Re:To NCommander(Score: 1) by hybristic on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:56PM

by hybristic (10) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:56PM (#2846) Journal

This is true. While there were others that put in a lot of time and effort into this site as well, his awesomeness is what made this all possible.

• What...What...(Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:30PM

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:30PM (#2637)

is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

The question is for each of you.

• Re:What...Re:What...(Score: 4, Funny) by BsAtHome on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:44PM

by BsAtHome (889) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:44PM (#2658)

African or European?

• Re:What...(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:09PM

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:09PM (#2795)

I... I don't know...
Arrrggghhh...

• Mobile icon?Mobile icon?(Score: 1) by mmcmonster on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:31PM

by mmcmonster (401) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:31PM (#2639)

Why does your icon for mobile looks like anyone else's icon for internet?

• Re:Mobile icon?(Score: 3, Informative) by FrogBlast on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:51PM

by FrogBlast (21) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:51PM (#2730)

Because the Honorable Gentleman from Pipedot donated a set of icons to us (that didn't completely overlap with the set we needed) in which it was so. We'll probably be replacing many icons early on. Feel free to visit the forum and let us know which ones you do or don't like, or offer us your own home-made iconography.

Submission about Red Hat, systemd and PentagonSubmission about Red Hat, systemd and Pentagon(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:33PM

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:33PM (#2641)

Why haven't you published it? (Reposting below so that you know what I'm talking about).

Linux Security, Red Hat and Systemd Conspiracy Theory

Former cypherpunk shares his conspiratorial view on Linux security: [wordpress.com]

Since then, more has happened to reveal the true story here, the depth of which surprised even me. The GTK development story and the systemd debate on Debian revealed much corporate pressure being brought to bear in Linux. [...] Some really startling facts about Red Hat came to light. For me the biggest was the fact that the US military is Red Hat's largest customer:

"When we rolled into Baghdad, we did it using open source," General Justice continued. "It may come as a surprise to many of you, but the U.S. Army is 'the' single largest install base for Red Hat Linux. I'm their largest customer." (2008 [linux.com])

This is pretty much what I had figured. I'm not exactly new to this, and I figured that in some way the military-industrial/corporate/intelligence complex was in control of Red Hat and Linux. [...] But I didn't expect it to be stated so plainly. Any fool should realize that "biggest customer" doesn't mean tallest or widest, it means the most money. IOW, most of Red Hat's money comes from the military - they have first say in its development. And the connection between the military and spying agencies, etc. should be obvious.

Next, a reader posted this FOSDEM: NSA Operation ORCHESTRA Annual Status Report [fosdem.org]. Well worth watching in its entirety (including the Q&A at the end), to me this turned out to be a road-map detailing how Red Hat is operating on Linux!

• Re:Submission about Red Hat, systemd and PentagonRe:Submission about Red Hat, systemd and Pentagon(Score: 1) by ivan on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:51PM

by ivan (893) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:51PM (#2731)

Interesting... How is this comment offtopic?

• Re:Submission about Red Hat, systemd and Pentagon(Score: 1) by hybristic on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:09PM

by hybristic (10) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:09PM (#2863) Journal

I would imagine this is modded off topic because there is a method to submit stories, and this is not the proper method. Next, the reason why this probably wasn't posted was because its a conspiracy theory, it even says so in the summary.

Why would someone be shocked that the military is the largest customer of RHEL? I mean the US puts insane amounts of money into it's military. When you need to network the complex networks that the military has, it's not shocking they would choose a *nix. Then you look at what Linux Distro has the most support and you arrive at RHEL. I should mention I didn't read any of what was posted in this guys submission, but on the surface I am simply not shocked by this revelation.

• Re:Submission about Red Hat, systemd and PentagonRe:Submission about Red Hat, systemd and Pentagon(Score: 1) by etherscythe on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:59PM

by etherscythe (937) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:59PM (#2947) Journal

It reads like tin-foil nuttery at first glance, but there's actually a legit question there under all the detail. Mods probably didn't read closely enough. This may be a downside to such prolific mod points - modders spend them without checking because they don't have to guard them as carefully.

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• Re:Submission about Red Hat, systemd and Pentagon(Score: 1) by c0lo on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:13AM

by c0lo (156) on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:13AM (#2991) Journal

It reads like tin-foil nuttery at first glance, but there's actually a legit question there under all the detail.

Well, maybe that's the problem. I mean, if not careful enough, it's easy to trigger the TLTR reaction (too long to read. Get it and TLDR is moot).
Suggestion: if there is a question, with the risk of triggering Betteridge's law, maybe it's a good idea to raise it above those details... help me decide if this could be important/interesting enough to me to give to it my full attention.

(anyway, regarding the submission that's very subject of the thread: I must admit that it's long enough to trigger the TLDR for me)

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• Re:Submission about Red Hat, systemd and PentagonRe:Submission about Red Hat, systemd and Pentagon(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:27PM

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:27PM (#2753)

My dear, Linux is a kernel.

• Re:Submission about Red Hat, systemd and Pentagon(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:52PM

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:52PM (#2780)

My dear, Linux is a kernel.

So the parent didn't write GNU/Linux and it is a great way for you to divert the discussion from an important point that he made?

• Re:Submission about Red Hat, systemd and Pentagon(Score: 1) by unitron on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:40AM

by unitron (70) on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:40AM (#3134) Journal

I guess I'm the only one to have gotten that joke.

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• The NSAThe NSA(Score: 5, Interesting) by halcyon1234 on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:34PM

by halcyon1234 (1082) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:34PM (#2642)

Have you been contacted by the NSA yet to install a blackbox on the site? If not, what will you do when they come around?

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• Re:The NSARe:The NSA(Score: 5, Interesting) by ragequit on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:37PM

by ragequit (44) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:37PM (#2646) Journal

What if there's a gag order that they not disclose they have been contacted...

Along those lines, could you put a dead man icon on the site so we know whether or not the above has happened?

Oh! and a transparency report?

and hookers
and blackjack

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• Re:The NSARe:The NSA(Score: 5, Funny) by youngatheart on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:59PM

by youngatheart (42) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:59PM (#2676)

Yes, I want the same thing, except I don't care about the dead man icon or transparency report.

• Re:The NSA(Score: 1) by modecx on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:37PM

by modecx (1925) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:37PM (#2885)

Can we get a mashup going and just make it a dead hooker?

• Re:The NSA(Score: 1) by dast on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:37PM

by dast (1633) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:37PM (#2713)

Free beer, free as in free. Or freedom. Whatever.

• Re:The NSARe:The NSA(Score: 1) by sfm on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:17AM

by sfm (675) on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:17AM (#2995)

Actually, a better way to do this might be to include wording on the info page that indicates the system is not currently acting in cooperation with the NSA (or other TLA-type organization). Should the conditions change the text could go away, similar to a dead-mans switch ??

Could this work?

• Re:The NSA(Score: 1) by unitron on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:43AM

by unitron (70) on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:43AM (#3137) Journal

I has that idea a while back on the grounds that the government preventing you from speaking about something is one thing, but it would be a lot harder for them to go into court to argue that they have a right to compel you to lie.

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• Re:The NSARe:The NSA(Score: 5, Interesting) by dilbert on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:24PM

by dilbert (444) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:24PM (#2695)
If SoylentNews implements a canary.txt similar to rsync, they won't have to "do" anything :)
• Re:The NSA(Score: 1) by microtodd on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:57PM

by microtodd (1866) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:57PM (#2902) Homepage Journal

That.....is brilliant! I love the canary.txt idea.

• Re:The NSA(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:07PM

by Gaaark (41) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:07PM (#2739) Journal

Nods head.

"No."

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• It's made of dissenting peopleIt's made of dissenting people(Score: 5, Insightful) by everdred on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:35PM

by everdred (110) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:35PM (#2643) Homepage Journal

What we have here is in some ways a self-selected community of torch- and pitchfork-wielding Internet villagers. (I really do mean this in the kindest possible way.)

If it's determined that things need to change for the good of SoylentNews, how do you go about making these changes, when you know that the community you've created knows how to do a proper Internet revolt?

• Re:It's made of dissenting people(Score: 1) by ArhcAngel on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:04PM

by ArhcAngel (654) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:04PM (#2681)

As has been stated in the past. The beatings will continue until moral improves!

• Re:It's made of dissenting people(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:17PM

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:17PM (#2746)

As a kind of a follow up (I'm different person), the slashcode with the current updates is already available. What else do we need exactly to fork SoylentNews?

I think that by honestly and fully answering this question paradoxically makes you (us) more likely to succeed. There are already competing altslashdots up and running so any damage done will be minimal to non-existent. After all, like a certain site recently learned, their business is only as loyal as their userbase is.

Besides spilling the beans could be geek porn at its finest. Congrats for getting the show on the road during the 'cott!

• Re:It's made of dissenting people(Score: 2) by naubol on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:56PM

by naubol (1918) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:56PM (#2847)

I feel like slashdot had to burn through a veritable mountain of loyalty to get that internet revolt and it was being threatened for weeks and they still haven't responded to it. So, I don't think this is like some sort of hair trigger thing. My guess is "reverse course when the whole site is telling you that you're doing it wrong" is a pretty good method.

• SuccessSuccess(Score: 2) by TrumpetPower! on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:38PM

by TrumpetPower! (590) <ben@trumpetpower.com> on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:38PM (#2647) Homepage

How will you know whether you're succeeding or failing? Do you have MBA-style metrics, or will you just feel the zeitgeist, or is it enough if you have a smile on your face at the end of the day, or...?

b&

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• Re:Success(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:12PM

by Gaaark (41) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:12PM (#2744) Journal
For me, when the end of the day comes and i don't want it to end, I'd say that is success.

(Wishing for the super power of being able to not ever have to sleep.)

(...or get sick.)

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• Startup CostsStartup Costs(Score: 5, Interesting) by internetguy on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:39PM

by internetguy (235) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:39PM (#2649)

As someone who has never launched a full blown website from scratch.

Can you share with us the startup costs of SoylentNews?
Did someone donate server space?

Good job to everyone who was involved in getting this new site up and running!

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• Re:Startup CostsRe:Startup Costs(Score: 5, Interesting) by hankwang on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:30PM

by hankwang (100) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:30PM (#2703) Homepage

• Re:Bugs(Score: 1) by unitron on Thursday February 20 2014, @05:55AM

by unitron (70) on Thursday February 20 2014, @05:55AM (#3211) Journal

I would be equally happy with "she who posted them" instead of "her", since it's just an alternate as a way to illustrate when to use "who" and when to use "whom", both of which, last I checked, are not gender specific.

So my problem wasn't with "he" versus "she" but "he" versus "him".

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• Re:BugsRe:Bugs(Score: 1) by johaquila on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:04PM

by johaquila (867) on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:04PM (#3475)

Unfortunately your post proves that these usage questions can no longer be solved this way by most native speakers because they have started getting even these simple things wrong. The correct (though of course sexist) version of your sentence is (currently) still the following: "The following comments are owned by *him* who posted them."

For further illustration, a very classical example with a nice workaround for the problem:

"*He* that is without sin among you, let *him* first cast a stone at her".

The correct short version of this has always been:

"Let *him* who is without sin cast the first stone at her." (60 Google hits in 19th century books)

But more and more speakers are preferring a new, formerly (and arguably still) ungrammatical version:

"Let *he* who is without sin cast the first stone at her." (8 Google hits in 19th century books)

This new variant already has 50% more Google hits than the old one. There are even reports of copy editors who have already started 'correcting' the correct version into the new one: http://sesquiotic.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/let-her -who-is-without-error/ [wordpress.com]

This is just normal language change. What used to be wrong becomes right, what used to be right sounds antiquated or even ungrammatical to more and more people, and before you know it we are yet another little step removed from the language of Chaucer.

• Re:BugsRe:Bugs(Score: 1) by acid andy on Sunday June 01 2014, @04:16PM

by acid andy (1683) on Sunday June 01 2014, @04:16PM (#49927) Homepage Journal

The correct (though of course sexist) version of your sentence is (currently) still the following: "The following comments are owned by *him* who posted them."

It's unlikely that you'll see this reply as the topic is so old now but would an acceptable gender neutral version of the above be: "The following comments are owned by them who posted them."?

I realise that by using they / them rather than he / she you're substituting the sexism for ambiguity between the singular and plural.

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• Re:Bugs(Score: 1) by johaquila on Tuesday June 10 2014, @04:41PM

by johaquila (867) on Tuesday June 10 2014, @04:41PM (#53844)

I agree with your solution, though it looks a bit weird. I think that's because during the time when the now antiquated construction with "he who" (or "him who", depending on case) was still in widespread use, singular they was not, or at least not so generally. That's not to say singular they is a recent thing. Starting with Geoffrey Chaucer it has always been part of written English, including in the King James Bible. But of course there were times when it was restricted to certain situations, and times when a lot of people were careful to avoid it in general.

That said, the curves for "he who", "they who" and "them who" in Google's n-gram viewer are essentially parallel, so my feeling may be wrong.

• Re:BugsRe:Bugs(Score: 4, Informative) by LaminatorX on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:53PM

by LaminatorX (14) <{laminatorx} {at} {gmail.com}> on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:53PM (#2781)

We welcome bug reports here. [soylentnews.org] Please also find the already reported bugs here. [soylentnews.org]

• Re:Bugs(Score: 1) by acid andy on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:23PM

by acid andy (1683) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:23PM (#2812) Homepage Journal

Nice, thanks!

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• Re:Bugs What is that?(Score: 2, Interesting) by frojack on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:29AM

by frojack (1554) on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:29AM (#3010) Journal

For the purposes of reporting bugs...

How much of the issues I see listed on the Bugs page are actual bugs, and how much of them are simply missing slashcode features?

It seems the version of Slashcode you are using is somewhat older than that found on Slashdot and that seems to cause a lot of functionality to go missing.

Examples:

1) The quote button at the bottom of a posting does not appear.

2) The chevron enclosed quote does not work. (These make quoting parts of prior posts or TFAs hard.

3) After Posting you are shown your post, but your place in the Story is lost, and you have to naviaget down to where you were to continue reading replays.

D4) 2 radio button won't stay checked in account settings.

I'm sure there are more of these, but that's enough for here. Are these due to the vintage of Slashcode you are starting with, or are they features that somehow got broken?

If SoylentNews is to be the people that comprise it, treating the poster to all the goodies seems
pretty critical. I think all of us don't mind tweaking and experimenting with the moderation system. But something more than basic functionality still needs to be in the posting system.

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• Re:Bugs(Score: 1) by mrkaos on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:47AM

by mrkaos (997) on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:47AM (#3020)

>I'm sorry for my pedantry but it just irritates me. What's the past tense of "logout"? I "logouted"?

logged out.

As in, I logged out of beta as I found it intolerable.

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• Statistics(Score: 5, Interesting) by BsAtHome on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:52PM

by BsAtHome (889) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:52PM (#2662)

You already published "day one" statistics. Are you going to enable visit/viewing/members/... statistics on a more regular basis (with graphs, please)?

• Licensing?Licensing?(Score: 5, Interesting) by seandiggity on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:53PM

by seandiggity (639) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:53PM (#2665) Homepage

What are your plans for licensing "SoylentCode" (e.g. move to GPlv3 or AGPLv3)? How about a license for a [scrubbed] database so that the site can be cloned if need be? We should, after all, learn from beta.

• Re:Licensing?Re:Licensing?(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:56PM

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:56PM (#2900)

What are your plans for licensing "SoylentCode" (e.g. move to GPlv3 or AGPLv3)?

The old code can't be re-licensed without the permission of all the old contributors, so don't hold your breath on that one.

• Re:Licensing?(Score: 1) by seandiggity on Thursday February 20 2014, @02:51PM

by seandiggity (639) on Thursday February 20 2014, @02:51PM (#3466) Homepage
The more I read, the less I think that's true. I think it depends on how it's done. See earlier discussion [soylentnews.org].
• Re:Licensing?(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:12AM

by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:12AM (#2990)

Also Atlassian offers their products free to opensource projects if you qualify.. and Soylent might, somoeone should investigate.. their products are fairly easy to setup and fairly good.

Issue tracking,
Wiki (code review), git integration etc)

• Can we find out why a submission was rejected?Can we find out why a submission was rejected?(Score: 5, Insightful) by tkd-physics on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:55PM

by tkd-physics (1306) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @05:55PM (#2673)

I submitted a story the other day, it was rejected. Fine, no problem, but why? Subject matter? Bad Summary? I think we need feedback so we know what to do next time.

If it was subject matter (the ISO C++ committee signed off on the C++ 14 text)... should I not submit on that topic? Who decides what topics are of interest?

Thanks for the new site!

• Re:Can we find out why a submission was rejected?Re:Can we find out why a submission was rejected?(Score: 4, Interesting) by VLM on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:35PM

by VLM (445) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:35PM (#2711)

Sounds interesting to me, but probably we had too many stories go live in the last 9 hours (sarcasm, aka zero).

Aside from that snarky comment somewhat more politely I'll ask, "Roughly how many stories are you planning to release per day?" Which ties in rather closely with how often I will load up the site and take a look.

• Re:Can we find out why a submission was rejected?Re:Can we find out why a submission was rejected?(Score: 2, Informative) by LaminatorX on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:46PM

by LaminatorX (14) <{laminatorx} {at} {gmail.com}> on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:46PM (#2774)

We've informally been aiming for a story every hour and a half or so, a bit less late at night. We're working to balance our desire to post many of the great submissions we're receiving with wanting the stories we do post to have their time in the Sun at the top of the feed. (This is also a good answer to the "Why wasn't my submission posted?" question, in many cases.)

• Re:Can we find out why a submission was rejected?(Score: 3, Informative) by VLM on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:06PM

by VLM (445) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:06PM (#2857)

Have you been toying with the idea of automation?

There's some stories that really need to go up immediately (Hey, the Ukraine just started a genuine shooting civil war this morning and (insert something soylent relevant here))

On the other hand, some stories can sit and if nothing was force posted in the last 120 minutes then one waiting in the hopper goes up. So some really cool scientific paper from last week (hint hint) could automagically appear to break up a dry spell.

This is not theory... theoildrum and thehousingbubbleblog have done exactly this in a cron job for many years.

• Re:Can we find out why a submission was rejected?Re:Can we find out why a submission was rejected?(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:58PM

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:58PM (#2785)

Sounds interesting to me, but probably we had too many stories go live in the last 9 hours (sarcasm, aka zero).

You are wrong. I have made this submission and you didn't publish it: http://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=150&cid=264 1 [soylentnews.org]

Looking forward to hearing from you,
AC

• Re:Can we find out why a submission was rejected?Re:Can we find out why a submission was rejected?(Score: 1) by cwix on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:05PM

by cwix (873) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:05PM (#2791)

Calm down. No reason to get upset if your submission didn't make it up yet. Getting frustrated or angry will not help. Remember the staff is fully unpaid volunteers.

• Re:Can we find out why a submission was rejected?(Score: 1) by frojack on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:39AM

by frojack (1554) on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:39AM (#3015) Journal

Heh, ALL my stories get Rejected at Slashdot, only to be followed by a less well written one on the same subject, often with the same links, submitted later, by one of their pet submitters.
I just stopped trying.

So Rejection seems the norm, but Rejection without a reason seems less than user friendly and less instructive for the future.

I think some general checkboxes could be attached to the rejection listing one or more things that were reasons for the rejection.

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• Re:Can we find out why a submission was rejected?(Score: 2, Interesting) by tkd-physics on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:59AM

by tkd-physics (1306) on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:59AM (#3024)

Who's upset, frustrated, and angry? Not me. I can't imagine that my original post sounded that way, and I don't think any of the follow-ups did either (a single, mildly snarky comment aside).

Sure, they're all unpaid volunteers. Sure, the site is new. I'm just asking, as a general point of interest, if we can get feedback when a submission is rejected, so that we know why and what to do next time. This seems like a reasonable question to me.

• "The other site""The other site"(Score: 4, Interesting) by Drake_Edgewater on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:01PM

by Drake_Edgewater (780) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:01PM (#2677) Journal

Have you received any contact (via e-mail, message, phone, letters with antrax, catapulted lawyers...) from the people in charge of the "other site"?

• Re:"The other site"(Score: 1) by sootman on Thursday February 20 2014, @02:59AM

by sootman (2137) on Thursday February 20 2014, @02:59AM (#3099)

Once upon a time in the FAQ, there was a part along the lines of "Q: But what if someone downloads Slashcode and uses it to make a clone of Slashdot?" and the answer was "Go for it!" Seems to be gone now, but in any case, they probably barely care, and legally, they can't do a thing. (IANAL)

• Re:"The other site"(Score: 1) by outlier on Thursday February 20 2014, @04:46AM

by outlier (1709) on Thursday February 20 2014, @04:46AM (#3173)

Relatedly, have you had any contact with CmdrTaco or Hemos? What do they think of the efforts here?

• FightFight(Score: 1) by nobbis on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:02PM

by nobbis (62) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:02PM (#2678) Homepage Journal

If you all had a fight , who would win ?

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• Re:Fight(Score: 3, Funny) by Vanderhoth on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:18PM

by Vanderhoth (61) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:18PM (#2689)

My money's on NCommander. If he can fix SlashCode in a week, surely programming a killbot on the fly to fight for him would be a piece of cake.

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• Re:FightRe:Fight(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:22PM

by Gaaark (41) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:22PM (#2748) Journal

Deputy Lupo.

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• Re:Fight(Score: 1) by unitron on Thursday February 20 2014, @04:00AM

by unitron (70) on Thursday February 20 2014, @04:00AM (#3148) Journal

Only because we'd all surrender to her immediately (although I wouldn't mind a friendly little wrestling match with her first).

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• How can I help?How can I help?(Score: 4, Interesting) by youngatheart on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:04PM

by youngatheart (42) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:04PM (#2680)

I see that others have asked how we can donate, and I hope to do the same.

Longer term, I'd like to be able to donate time, energy, bandwidth and systems experience to the project.

Q1: First real question: Are people getting sleep now? I know there were several days when it was touch and go to know how sane any of the core team would be at any point in time.

Q2: When do you think you will start considering modifications beyond just catching up to where the old site was?

Q3: Have you had any personal contact with other people with similar projects and do you think you will be able to share ideas and source code?

Q4: How hard is it for a moderately geeky guy to set up a virtual machine and catch up with where this site is now?

• Re:How can I help?(Score: 1) by dast on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:33PM

by dast (1633) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:33PM (#2708)

I am also interested in knowing how I could help. Will code or test for charity.

• Re:How can I help?(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:23PM

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:23PM (#2749)

They specifically asked "In keeping with tradition, ask as many as you'd like, but please, one question per post." Dunno exactly why but they did.

• Re:How can I help?(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:30PM

by Gaaark (41) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:30PM (#2757) Journal

A1. Sleep is still, I believe, getting caught up on.

A2. Ah, the future... it's still there! :)

A3. Can't help you, you'll have to look to a higher power for those answers (although I think source code will be released eventually????)

A4. If you mean coding? There was a lot of work going on by people with wizard level skillz beyond what I have leveled up to: furious, sleepless work of over (I believe, but my mind is gone) a week. It is beyond me how they did it. I just like that I got to be a part of it... it's been fun so far! :)

my 2 pennies... except we don't have pennies in Canada anymore.

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• PromotionPromotion(Score: 2, Interesting) by tanqueray on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:07PM

by tanqueray (291) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:07PM (#2682)

How do you intend to promote the site? Is this strictly word of mouth or do you intend to take more active measures?

• Re:Promotion(Score: 2) by joekiser on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:28PM

by joekiser (1837) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:28PM (#2879)

As a follow-up to this question:

Should we still be trolling the other site? Years ago, I remember a situation where the BSDForums.org community all moved to DaemonForums.org within a few weeks. All it took was word of mouth. Should we be posting on each /. article about where the community has moved to?

I have had /. blocked at the DNS server for over a week now.

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• What if it doesn't work?What if it doesn't work?(Score: 4, Interesting) by fliptop on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:11PM

by fliptop (1666) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:11PM (#2688) Journal

By what metric(s) will you consider the site to be a success or failure, and how long will that determination take to quantify?

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• Re:What if it doesn't work?Re:What if it doesn't work?(Score: 2, Insightful) by SMI on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:31PM

by SMI (333) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:31PM (#2705)

Just my opinion, but I honestly think that this site is already a success. Much gratitude to all involved!

• Re:What if it doesn't work?(Score: 1) by fliptop on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:21PM

by fliptop (1666) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:21PM (#2809) Journal

but I honestly think that this site is already a success

Perhaps, but what I want to know is, how is that success measured? Amount of traffic? Number of registered users? When /. shuts down due to lack of readership?

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• Re:What if it doesn't work?Re:What if it doesn't work?(Score: 1) by tangomargarine on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:27PM

by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:27PM (#2818)

If the average Soylent article receives more comments than the average Other Site article, I'd call it an unequivocal success. Maybe >= 100 comments per article could be considered base success?

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• Re:What if it doesn't work?Re:What if it doesn't work?(Score: 2) by mtrycz on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:42PM

by mtrycz (60) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:42PM (#2832)

I feel like I need to comment on this, because your comment could express much of the sentiment, but it's not actually the drive of all this.

Except for the initial inception of the (old) slashcode, this site has no relation, good or bad, with the "Other Site".

Sure it's in the same segment of news and has a similar interface and functionality, but that's that. Specifically it's not intended to *compete* with the "Other Site". Just, disregard it. Forming a site just to make an other site fail sounds just wrong.

I'm sure that users will compare, and have preferences, but the whole idea is just to make the best site possible (certain on this point), that is also s much comminuty driven as possible (this is what I hope, and what I feel the intentions are).

That being said, I do hope Dice will DIAF, but that's not the point.

Also, I'm not saying that you implied everything I'm saying, but there is some confusion about this, and I felt like clearing this up. Please note that I'm not by any means associated with SN, I just reported some bugs.

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• Re:What if it doesn't work?Re:What if it doesn't work?(Score: 1) by tangomargarine on Thursday February 20 2014, @04:38PM

by tangomargarine (667) on Thursday February 20 2014, @04:38PM (#3561)

Yeah, that's a noble sentiment. I'm just saying that if we end up leeching away their users (just by soylent existing), that's going to say a number of things to people who are informed about the situation. Intent is somewhat disconnected from results in this case, I think.

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• Re:What if it doesn't work?(Score: 1) by mtrycz on Thursday February 20 2014, @07:06PM

by mtrycz (60) on Thursday February 20 2014, @07:06PM (#3638)

Yes, I actually they diaf and the whole community migrate, but that's not the point. I don't think that'd happen if it was the point.

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• Editorial questionEditorial question(Score: 4, Insightful) by bacon on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:25PM

by bacon (280) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:25PM (#2696)

It seems like the stories with a science-y bent are less commented on than those with a tech-y bent.

Assuming that the most comments come from people familiar with the subject matter, this makes sense - there is probably a greater percentage of tech-types rather than science-types; an effect magnified by the relatively lower user base (vs the other site).

Which begs the question of the editors - how will you approach submissions in this context?

One strategy might be to play to the emerging preferences of the existing base. Another might be to persist with the less read articles in hope of generating a deeper pool of users. What would be the guiding principles for these decisions?

• Re:Editorial question(Score: 1) by isostatic on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:10PM

by isostatic (365) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:10PM (#2743) Journal

I hope they keep posting them, even if they aren't commented that much, or even clicked on. I read the summary and try to keep my mind somewhere in the sciences, even if I'm not interested enough in the depth of discussion to spend the time on it.

• Re:Editorial question(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:59PM

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:59PM (#2850)

How will we keep down the click bait spam? On the other site it seems to have got fairly bad in many stories seem to be nothing more than to generate huge discussions that are little more than a platform for people to bash on each other. Sometimes the stories seem to be little more than advertisements for some sort of VC fund.

• Re:Editorial question(Score: 2, Interesting) by naubol on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:48PM

by naubol (1918) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:48PM (#2939)

I choose not to comment on Biology posts, but I absolutely love reading them. If anything, I think they should keep them relatively even, because it isn't even always the amount of comments but the quality of those that are there.

• betabeta(Score: 4, Funny) by VLM on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:26PM

by VLM (445) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:26PM (#2697)

why not use the url beta.soylentnews.com? Sounds LOLworthy to me.

• Re:beta(Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:29PM

by VLM (445) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:29PM (#2700)

Oh and I forgot to ask if you could CNAME goatse.soylentnews.org and rickroll.soylentnews.org that would be handy.

• Re:beta(Score: 1) by outlier on Thursday February 20 2014, @04:49AM

by outlier (1709) on Thursday February 20 2014, @04:49AM (#3175)

April 1st is not far away. I see another opportunity to continue an old /. tradition!

• When you update the site ...When you update the site ...(Score: 1) by snick on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:27PM

by snick (1408) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:27PM (#2698)

... will you call the new version "beta?"

• Re:When you update the site ...Re:When you update the site ...(Score: 1) by zocalo on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:51PM

by zocalo (302) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:51PM (#2733)
Might be good for a few Lulz, and it's technically correct, but after Google and /. that joke is wearing a little thin. Maybe use "delta" since that can be used to mean a change as well (and it's TWO more than those other sites!).

Just keep the deltas small so we can tell you when we don't like it before you put all the work in, hmm...?
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• Re:When you update the site ...Re:When you update the site ...(Score: 1) by EvilJim on Friday February 21 2014, @02:29AM

by EvilJim (2501) on Friday February 21 2014, @02:29AM (#4003) Journal

my vote is for Alpha # or Delta b (flat)

• Re:When you update the site ...(Score: 1) by DECbot on Friday February 21 2014, @07:35PM

by DECbot (832) on Friday February 21 2014, @07:35PM (#4492) Journal

How about Objective BETA?

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• LitigationLitigation(Score: 3, Insightful) by boris on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:55PM

by boris (1706) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @06:55PM (#2735)

Does the open source license from the slashcode fully protect you from any litigation initated against you from the other site?

• Re:Litigation(Score: 1) by mtrycz on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:48PM

by mtrycz (60) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:48PM (#2840)

The whole thing was made as clean and as clear as possible. The team is serious about this.

That being said, there's no reason stopping anyone, the "other site" or enyone else to sue SN for anything, expecially in a sue-happy culture like the US.
While tThere are no legal bases for that, they sure can do that. It'd actually be an effective weapon against a project this young, as legal expenses would have to be spent anyway. I don't think they'd do this, tho, as It'd be the final blow to their image.

In two words: SN is clean, but being clean doens't protect form litigation anyway.

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• Build and SellBuild and Sell(Score: 4, Interesting) by Buck Feta on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:00PM

by Buck Feta (958) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:00PM (#2737) Journal

• Question format traditionQuestion format tradition(Score: 1) by gringer on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:08PM

by gringer (962) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:08PM (#2741)

Given that you're changing other things, have you considered changing the nature of these question / interview posts from a two-stage process to a single-stage real-time format like Reddit's AMA?

• Re:Question format tradition(Score: 2, Insightful) by SpallsHurgenson on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:44PM

by SpallsHurgenson (656) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:44PM (#2771)

Oh, I hope not. Reddit responses tend to be shorter and less thought out, a result of the format. By allowing some time between when the questions are asked and when they are answered, it gives the interviewee time to pick the most interesting questions, and formulate better-thought out answers, rather than off-the-cuff comments.

But I'm an old grump who doesn't like change ;-)

• Re:Question format tradition(Score: 1) by LaminatorX on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:55PM

by LaminatorX (14) <{laminatorx} {at} {gmail.com}> on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:55PM (#2784)

I've been tossing out simple brief answers as appropriate herein, but expect to see more detailed and thoughtful responses in a followup post.

• Help(Score: 4, Interesting) by mindriot on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:24PM

by mindriot (928) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:24PM (#2751)
In what areas could you still use help?
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• UsersUsers(Score: 2, Insightful) by Buck Feta on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:30PM

by Buck Feta (958) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:30PM (#2758) Journal

Judging from the quality of the questions here, would you say have the finest, most intelligent, most handsome, and downright extraordinary user base?

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• Re:Users(Score: 3, Insightful) by Gaaark on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:40PM

by Gaaark (41) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:40PM (#2768) Journal

Yes!
Buck_Feta karma +1

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• Re:Users(Score: 1) by canoedf on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:25PM

by canoedf (1729) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:25PM (#2919) Homepage

I resemble that remark !

• Re:Users(Score: 1) by paddym on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:14PM

by paddym (196) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:14PM (#2960)

FTFY:

Judging from the quality of the grammar here, would you say "you" have the most fine, intelligentest, most handsomely, and downright extraordinariest user base, for all intensive porpoises? If not "you", then "what website would you say has"?

• Joining forces with Pipedot?Joining forces with Pipedot?(Score: 4, Interesting) by seandiggity on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:39PM

by seandiggity (639) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @07:39PM (#2767) Homepage
How do you feel about joining forces with Pipedot [pipedot.org]? That site has a nice and simple interface resembling /. and uses a newer codebase than Slash. Maybe just some code sharing?
• Re:Joining forces with Pipedot?(Score: 2) by ticho on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:22PM

by ticho (89) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:22PM (#2810) Homepage Journal

|. code still needs a lot of work, they only have basics working. Also, the "dev team" is probably just one or two guys, and because of that they are not as responsive as team of this site, which has someone active on IRC at almost all times.
Still, the look and feel of |. site makes me drool and feel warm and fuzzy inside. :) With some effort, it could be a root of a complete slashcode replacement.

• Re:Joining forces with Pipedot?Re:Joining forces with Pipedot?(Score: 2, Informative) by stderr on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:14PM

by stderr (11) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:14PM (#2958) Journal

Maybe just some code sharing?

SoylentNews is using Slashcode, which is written in Perl, but Pipedot have said "no Perl CGI", so code sharing between the two projects might not be so easy.

SoylentNews did get some icons from Pipedot, so some sharing do occur.

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• Re:Joining forces with Pipedot?(Score: 1) by seandiggity on Thursday February 20 2014, @02:48PM

by seandiggity (639) on Thursday February 20 2014, @02:48PM (#3465) Homepage

I realize that, but surely HTML + CSS theming wouldn't be an issue.

• Style and nameStyle and name(Score: 1) by umafuckitt on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:22PM

by umafuckitt (20) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:22PM (#2811)

Are there still plans to solicit the community for a new name and to re-design the look of the site with community input?

• Re:Style and name(Score: 1) by adp on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:47PM

by adp (1083) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:47PM (#2936)

Personally, I hope this old-slashdot theme stays -- I like this layout.

• Why?(Score: 1) by kwerle on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:39PM

by kwerle (746) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:39PM (#2829) Homepage

What is the purpose of this site?
What are the goals for this site?
What is the focus of this site?

• How to avoid beta?How to avoid beta?(Score: 3, Funny) by maxwell demon on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:47PM

by maxwell demon (1608) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @08:47PM (#2838) Journal

The main page states (emphasis by me): "Welcome to Soylent News. As we're stil in alpha-test, these articles cover much of what's going around in the site."

Now the logical next step after alpha would be beta. But of course all people here hate beta. So how are you going to avoid it?

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• Re:How to avoid beta?(Score: 1) by unitron on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:57AM

by unitron (70) on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:57AM (#3145) Journal

"Now the logical next step after alpha would be beta. But of course all people here hate beta. So how are you going to avoid it?"

As I have already indicated elsewhere, by calling it alpha 2.0

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• InternationalInternational(Score: 2, Interesting) by lhsi on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:03PM

by lhsi (711) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:03PM (#2854) Journal

One problem with Slashdot is that it didn't seem to care that it was an internationally visited site and would run stories that are only of interest to residents of the USA. Stories about the USA completely unrelated to news for nerds appearing were particarly irksome.

What are the plans for this site regarding this issue? Will you post non-news that is only of interest to the USA?

Note that tech stuff happening in the USA is fine, even if it is political stuff like the NSA or FCC (although posting tech news happening in other countries wouldn't hurt once in a while); its things like the super bowl or pure politics that should keep itself out of a tech news site

• Re:InternationalRe:International(Score: 1) by fliptop on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:13PM

by fliptop (1666) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:13PM (#2869) Journal

its things like the super bowl or pure politics that should keep itself out of a tech news site

I'll agree w/ the super bowl, but politics can be interesting to a nerd. The past couple of elections have been quite the revolution in using tech to get the word out to the electorate.

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• Re:International(Score: 1) by lhsi on Thursday February 20 2014, @10:22AM

by lhsi (711) on Thursday February 20 2014, @10:22AM (#3309) Journal

I'll agree w/ the super bowl, but politics can be interesting to a nerd. The past couple of elections have been quite the revolution in using tech to get the word out to the electorate.

USA politics is going to be interesting to USA citizens mainly, not the rest of the world, which was my main point.

Tech usage in politics (or interference in tech stuff from politicians) would be relevant to a tech news site, but just politics from one country is not (unless the site is aimed at the USA only, which is what my question is trying to figure out).

• title bars as linkstitle bars as links(Score: 3, Insightful) by Dale on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:07PM

by Dale (539) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:07PM (#2860)

Are there any plans to make the title bars that have the new story headlines into links? It just seems odd not being able to click on the headline from the main page to go to the story. Currently I have to click "read more" in the lower left part of the summary to get to the story page.

• Re:title bars as links(Score: 1) by rodeo on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:54PM

by rodeo (2010) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:54PM (#2985)

Bump for this request.
Also would like to see "full article enabled" in RSS feed.

• Timezones(Score: 2, Interesting) by linsane on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:12PM

by linsane (633) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:12PM (#2865)

Do you have editors across enough timezones to cover daytime 24hrs a day?

• To Barrabas, MathJax(Score: 2, Insightful) by cosurgi on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:53PM

by cosurgi (272) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:53PM (#2897) Journal

You responded enthusiastically to my first email suggestion to add MathJax support (that was even before the IRC channel was created), do you still plan on adding it? :)

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• better by the day(Score: 1) by technopoptart on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:59PM

by technopoptart (1746) <{james} {at} {theorangecrush.co}> on Wednesday February 19 2014, @09:59PM (#2904)

I am impressed to see a quick response to my suggestion about the old style icons. Its starting to feel like early college days again, thanks.

• donate@soylentnews.org paypal(Score: 1) by berrance on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:02PM

by berrance (1229) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:02PM (#2906)

I know there is already a lot being mentioned about advertisements or subscriptions to fund the site. How about setting up a donate@soylentnews.org email address for a paypal account. Then have a yearly drive much like wikipedia for donations to keep the site running. Hell, I want to donate just for the sheer effort of all the great guys who got this place up and running.

I may have been lurking in the green shadows for the last 10 or so years, Now it is time to start lurking in the red shadows.

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• How much would you sell for?(Score: 1) by frink on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:09PM

by frink (461) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:09PM (#2910)

I think we al know the other site started to go down hill not all that long after the money changed hands. Can't blame the founders, they earned it. But how do you see SN in 1, 3, 5 years time? Ready to be sold, or handed over to a foundation or a trust to look after it?

• What about firehose / metamoderation?What about firehose / metamoderation?(Score: 1) by Covalent on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:15PM

by Covalent (43) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:15PM (#2912) Journal

Any news on how that's going? Will we be metamodding soon?

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• Re:What about firehose / metamoderation?Re:What about firehose / metamoderation?(Score: 1) by berrance on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:19PM

by berrance (1229) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @10:19PM (#2914)

If we get the firehose back how about calling it the "soup bowl?"

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• Re:What about firehose / metamoderation?(Score: 1) by c0lo on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:24AM

by c0lo (156) on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:24AM (#3003) Journal

how about calling it the "soup bowl?"

Shark pool or spam cesspool?
Just stay out of my soup.

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• Re:What about firehose / metamoderation?(Score: 1) by unitron on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:55AM

by unitron (70) on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:55AM (#3143) Journal

"If we get the firehose back how about calling it the "soup bowl?" "

I suggested, and prefer, "Purgatory".

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• Re:What about firehose / metamoderation?(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 20 2014, @11:00AM

by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 20 2014, @11:00AM (#3334)

"The Grinder"

• IPv6?(Score: 1) by pe1rxq on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:56PM

by pe1rxq (844) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:56PM (#2986) Homepage

Will soylentnews support ipv6?
The other site were so busy 'fixing' commenting that they never got around to support IPv6 will you?
After all the stuff you guys got working in so little time this should be a piece of cake, or not?

• RSS feed to allow full article?(Score: 1) by rodeo on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:57PM

by rodeo (2010) on Wednesday February 19 2014, @11:57PM (#2987)

Will the RSS feed allow full articles to be read?

• Re: Advertising(Score: 1) by bluehorizons on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:17AM

by bluehorizons (1141) on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:17AM (#2994)

It would be nice to have low bandwidth advertisements, as my hard drive is belt driven.

Lovely site!

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• Story submission(Score: 1) by c0lo on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:32AM

by c0lo (156) on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:32AM (#3012) Journal
Re why not conspiracy theories [soylentnews.org] and firehose [soylentnews.org]
1. how much spam you've got among submissions until now?
2. what are the process/criteria to decide what submission makes the first page and which are not?
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• Code base(Score: 1) by mrkaos on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:41AM

by mrkaos (997) on Thursday February 20 2014, @12:41AM (#3017)

Will the code base continue to be made available under the GPL, and will you be contributing your enhancements?

And thank you for supporting the geek/nerd community. SN already seems to be more gritty than /. is now, though I was a daily .er I fell that SN is making good - plus I really enjoy the old style interface - much memories.

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• What no auto refresh?(Score: 1) by coolgoob on Thursday February 20 2014, @02:09AM

by coolgoob (822) on Thursday February 20 2014, @02:09AM (#3069)

I just want to know when auto refresh will be implemented?

• Please add article summary to RSS feed(Score: 1) by Whiteludafan on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:10AM

by Whiteludafan (2136) on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:10AM (#3109)

It would be nice to see an article summary in my RSS reader, rather than having to click over based solely on a title. Please consider this change. Thanks!

Also, I didn't find any obvious place to submit feedback like this. Perhaps I missed it?

• Serif fonts?(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:23AM

by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:23AM (#3119)

Is there a reason that the site is using Sans Serif fonts?
For the longest time in my memory, the original site uses Serif fonts (Times New Roman, since it's the browser default back in those days).

• *Anything?**Anything?*(Score: 1) by unitron on Thursday February 20 2014, @04:06AM

by unitron (70) on Thursday February 20 2014, @04:06AM (#3150) Journal

Well, I believe there's established precedent for "Boxers or briefs?"

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• Re:*Anything?*(Score: 1) by linsane on Thursday February 20 2014, @11:18AM

by linsane (633) on Thursday February 20 2014, @11:18AM (#3345)

or "None of the above"

• Replace Slash or maintain it?(Score: 1) by hash14 on Thursday February 20 2014, @04:28AM

by hash14 (1102) on Thursday February 20 2014, @04:28AM (#3163)

Where do you guys think we're headed with the codebase? Obviously this will be an evolving decision, but I think a lot of us are curious about how about how long we can work with the existing Slash codebase. Technical considerations on the viability of updating and maintaining existing Slash vs. rewriting one from scratch would be very interesting.

• MECE please!(Score: 1) by linsane on Thursday February 20 2014, @08:49AM

by linsane (633) on Thursday February 20 2014, @08:49AM (#3270)

Please try and make them MECE http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MECE_principle [wikipedia.org] (comedy option excused as an exception perhaps)

This would stop my inner scream from kicking off Every. Single. Time.

It's not just pointy haired boss syndrome, it's good application and list design. None of the above would go some way to addressing this as mentioned elsewhere. Thank you. Pretty please.

• hyperlinks in commentshyperlinks in comments(Score: 1) by SMI on Friday February 21 2014, @04:14AM

by SMI (333) on Friday February 21 2014, @04:14AM (#4068)

Is it possible to remove the appending site names from hyperlinks in comments, for sentence continuity and given that we can all mouse over the links to see where they lead?

• Re:hyperlinks in comments(Score: 1) by SMI on Friday February 21 2014, @04:20AM

by SMI (333) on Friday February 21 2014, @04:20AM (#4072)

Woops, please ignore this. I'm pretty sure I found the relevant option in the comment preferences. ./ since the late 90's, but never had an account.