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posted by NCommander on Tuesday April 01 2014, @01:22AM   Printer-friendly [Skip to comment(s)]
from the do-not-adjust-your-browser dept.

We're going to be making the first major upgrade to slashcode since the site went live tonight. We're scheduling one hour of downtime from 02:00 UTC to 03:00 UTC to do the upgrade. During this time, we'll leave varnish running so the main index and article pages will be visible, but attempts to post or access uncached pages will generate Guru Mediation errors. I'll bump this post to the top of the index just before we go offline

During this time, IRC will remain available. If there are unexpected issues, we'll update our new status page with our status. I'll have a changelog written up and posted within the next 24 hours.

[Downtime will be from: 22:00 Eastern Daylight Time, 03:00 British Summer Time, 11:00 Japan Standard Time]

NCommander adds: Bumping this to the top of the queue again as we're going down in less than an hour.

paulej72 adds: Update is done. Please submit any new bugs here.

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  • (Score: 2) by WizardFusion on Monday March 31 2014, @11:36AM

    by WizardFusion (498) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 31 2014, @11:36AM (#23507) Journal

    I like the idea of the status page, I just hope it's hosted on a server far, far away.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Covalent on Monday March 31 2014, @11:37AM

    by Covalent (43) on Monday March 31 2014, @11:37AM (#23508) Journal

    http://simhq.com/forum/files/usergals/2013/02/full -4656-50913-amiga_guru_meditation_error.jpg [simhq.com]

    Been 20 years since I've seen one of these. I miss my Amiga. :(

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by WizardFusion on Monday March 31 2014, @11:41AM

      by WizardFusion (498) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 31 2014, @11:41AM (#23509) Journal

      I miss my Amiga. :(

      I wonder if anyone will ever say that about Windows 8

  • (Score: 1) by Azmodan on Monday March 31 2014, @11:52AM

    by Azmodan (463) on Monday March 31 2014, @11:52AM (#23510)

    I might be alone in this situation but I kind of miss the comments 2.0 feature. Maybe it's just because I dont like to open multiple pages to follow a discussion on my super slow connection.

    Do you think you'll add this feature someday?

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by NCommander on Monday March 31 2014, @12:23PM

      by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <mcasadevall@soylentnews.org> on Monday March 31 2014, @12:23PM (#23517) Homepage Journal

      We won't implement D2 as it was before (we don't have the code for it), but looking at implementing a D1.25/D1.5 to let you expand/collaspe with just javascript and no specific page loads (and of course working the same as it does not for people who don't wish to use JS)

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      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by monkey999 on Monday March 31 2014, @11:49PM

        by monkey999 (4001) on Monday March 31 2014, @11:49PM (#23814)

        check out squte.com for how it should look

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by mrcoolbp on Monday March 31 2014, @03:22PM

      by mrcoolbp (68) <mrcoolbp@soylentnews.org> on Monday March 31 2014, @03:22PM (#23604) Homepage

      I also recommend "nested" view until we work out expanding/collapsing, it will load all the comments at once in your threshold.

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      • (Score: 1) by Azmodan on Monday March 31 2014, @04:36PM

        by Azmodan (463) on Monday March 31 2014, @04:36PM (#23638)

        Thanks will do the trick for now!

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by MaximumFerry on Monday March 31 2014, @03:31PM

      by MaximumFerry (416) on Monday March 31 2014, @03:31PM (#23609) Journal

      You can install SoylentNews Expandable Tree [userscripts.org]script to get that functionality.

      • (Score: 1) by crutchy on Monday March 31 2014, @08:54PM

        by crutchy (179) on Monday March 31 2014, @08:54PM (#23751) Homepage Journal

        expanidng/collapsing tree is very simple to code (even in slash for a single template) but knowing all the templates to modify and fitting in with the user prefs system (i think) appears to be the tricky bit. my pull request was (reasonably) denied cos i just threw in a quick hack without the holistic approach, but unfortunately (for me anyway, maybe fortunately for SN) any kind of holistic approach by me towards slash just aint gunna happen cos it would take me 10 years to figure out all the ins and outs (and another shiny pony will appear long before then).

        i'm actually kinda concerned that SN may eventually collapse merely under the weight of slash. i've never seen the pipedot source, but i'm sure it's much more lightweight than slash, which makes the holistic approach to new features much more practical.

        • (Score: 1) by paulej72 on Monday March 31 2014, @10:32PM

          by paulej72 (58) on Monday March 31 2014, @10:32PM (#23796) Journal

          curchy,
          Your pull was not merged for exactly the reason you specified. It is easy to put a open close switch on the comments, but what really needs to happen is that all of the comments are loaded, with ones below your threshold shown minimized by default. The title of a comment would then show or hide that comment and a new ui element beside a nested list would then open or close the whole nested list (a plus or an arrow like on tree views of folders). This is how I envision it working.

          The current issue I have is that the code for creating the nested lists is rather magical and lives in three different pieces of code. I have not been able to decipher where everything is being generated so I can make it work properly to show all comments and to tag them with the proper mod level.

          paulej72

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  • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by Dunbal on Monday March 31 2014, @12:19PM

    by Dunbal (3515) on Monday March 31 2014, @12:19PM (#23516)

    In b4 Bobby Tables!

    • (Score: 1) by crutchy on Monday March 31 2014, @08:57PM

      by crutchy (179) on Monday March 31 2014, @08:57PM (#23754) Homepage Journal

      doesn't that make you more at risk of being deleted when they eventually register him?

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by clone141166 on Monday March 31 2014, @12:53PM

    by clone141166 (59) on Monday March 31 2014, @12:53PM (#23531)

    Clearly this downtime is needed to apply the OMG Ponies!!! update in time for April 1st :)

    • (Score: 2) by Maow on Tuesday April 01 2014, @03:15AM

      by Maow (8) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @03:15AM (#23865) Homepage

      Clearly this downtime is needed to apply the OMG Ponies!!! update in time for April 1st

      It's much, much worse than that:

      SoylentMuffins are made of people [soylentnews.org]:

      We Sold Out: SoylentNews Is Now SoylentMuffins!

      I'll admit to never having uttered a humorous statement in my entire life, despite many attempts, but that article needs a good re-write to rise to the level of "a groaner".

      (That's what she said!)

      (See, nothing funny ever (intentionially) came from my efforts).

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Dr Ippy on Monday March 31 2014, @04:07PM

    by Dr Ippy (3973) on Monday March 31 2014, @04:07PM (#23628)

    Please could the RSS feed be increased to list more than 10 items? SD has 25, and that's about right.

    [I don't suppose this is the right place for suggestions. Sorry. :-) ]

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by mrcoolbp on Monday March 31 2014, @04:23PM

      by mrcoolbp (68) <mrcoolbp@soylentnews.org> on Monday March 31 2014, @04:23PM (#23631) Homepage

      No problem, there is a bug in the tracker regarding this already though.

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    • (Score: 2, Informative) by paulej72 on Monday March 31 2014, @05:21PM

      by paulej72 (58) on Monday March 31 2014, @05:21PM (#23664) Journal

      RSS feeds need a major overhaul. This is tentatively scheduled for the next release of slash. It is definitly on our todo, but it will take more time to fix than some of the stuff we have in this version of the release.

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    • (Score: 1) by monster on Tuesday April 01 2014, @09:04AM

      by monster (1260) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @09:04AM (#23990) Journal

      +1

      Please do it in the next update if you can.

  • (Score: 2) by evilviper on Tuesday April 01 2014, @02:55AM

    by evilviper (1760) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @02:55AM (#23857) Homepage Journal

    1) Can you get rid of the new, all-too-prominent log-out button. It's huge, and right where you'll be clicking, all the time, to look at any new messages.

    2) Can you put the new messages notification back at the top of the main page, instead of in the sidebar? Far more prominent and harder to miss up there.

    3) Damn the site's slow. Hope you'll get that fixed soon.

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    • (Score: 1) by paulej72 on Tuesday April 01 2014, @04:23AM

      by paulej72 (58) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @04:23AM (#23894) Journal

      1) Can you send a screengrab of the log out button. It is a normal button for me and on the browsers I checked it on. paulej72 at soylentnews dot org.

      2) Other users complained that the old message system was too distracting as it made the top items of the page not to line up. I was in agreement on this and wanted a clean top. We can look into this when we implement a complete site redesign and see if we can accommodate both camps.

      3) Varnish cache was flushed and needs to refill.

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  • (Score: 1) by tftp on Tuesday April 01 2014, @03:27AM

    by tftp (806) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @03:27AM (#23870) Homepage

    attempts to post or access uncached pages will generate Guru Mediation errors

    I have never seen those. Gurus rarely mediate things. They meditate, but that's not what you said :-)

    It must be a pain to write for the audience of professional programmers; they see your typos before you even make them.

    • (Score: 1) by paulej72 on Tuesday April 01 2014, @04:25AM

      by paulej72 (58) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @04:25AM (#23896) Journal

      These are errors from the varnish cache server. It was flushed as part of the upgrade and it takes it some time to refill. Once done, these errors should go away.

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  • (Score: 2) by pixeldyne on Tuesday April 01 2014, @04:38AM

    by pixeldyne (2637) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @04:38AM (#23901)

    When refreshing the front page before I logged in, I saw the details of another user in top right corner. Including the email address with a note "email not shown publicly". I guess I saw a cached page from another user?

    • (Score: 1) by paulej72 on Tuesday April 01 2014, @05:03AM

      by paulej72 (58) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @05:03AM (#23910) Journal

      Yes we saw that as well. Varnish cached a wrong page. Will need to fix that before our next release.

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  • (Score: 2) by stormwyrm on Tuesday April 01 2014, @05:24AM

    by stormwyrm (717) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @05:24AM (#23912) Journal

    I noticed that this disappeared, just as it did on the old site several years ago. Seeing "This page was generated by a Squadron of Uber Squirrels for stormwyrm" or something like that made me so nostalgic.

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    • (Score: 2) by NCommander on Tuesday April 01 2014, @05:44AM

      by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <mcasadevall@soylentnews.org> on Tuesday April 01 2014, @05:44AM (#23918) Homepage Journal

      I'm looking at readding this somewhere else on the page (probably at the bottom), so its not eating up screen real estate, but still around.

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      • (Score: 1) by paulej72 on Tuesday April 01 2014, @12:43PM

        by paulej72 (58) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @12:43PM (#24083) Journal

        We could add it to the nagger when it is not running.

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  • (Score: 2) by elf on Tuesday April 01 2014, @08:22AM

    by elf (64) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @08:22AM (#23962)

    If I load a journal, the user name and id of the user who wrote the journal appears on the top left of the central section. If I then browse to my Info page (logged in as me), the previous journal name and id is still there in the top left of the central section.

    I can explain this more if you need to know more to replicate