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posted by takyon on Tuesday June 19 2018, @08:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the still-free dept.

The FreeBSD Foundation has announced that the name FreeBSD turns 25 years old on 2018-06-19. The mailing list archives contain a thread about name selection with with a message containing the following suggestion

How about just simply "FreeBSD"? No confusion, no fuss, seems like a good compromise to me. :-)


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Klara Systems has an article with a deep dive into the origins of FreeBSD jails. These ideas have been around for many decades and taken form in several stages and finally became part of FreeBSD over 20 years ago. FreeBSD jails share the main system's kernel and are therefore a relatively light weight means for userspace isolation, compared to "containers". Within the jail, the environment appears as a normal system and processes within the jail can not see upward into the host or laterally into other jails.

In the late 1990s, [Poul-Henning] Kamp was contacted by a man from South Carolina named Derrick T. Woolworth. Woolworth had a problem and was looking for a solution. He ran a web hosting company named R&D Associates Inc and he “had this idea for running multiple different versions of Apache and MySQL on the same server”. Woolworth “complained about the fact that different customers in his webhotel needed different versions of apache, mysql, perl etc, and that this forced him to run many machines, each almost idle, just for these different software loads.”

Woolworth offered to pay for the development of such a feature. “The deal was that he would pay for the development and then after one year I would commit them to FreeBSD.” With that Jails were born. After Woolworth’s year of exclusivity expired, Jails were included in FreeBSD 4.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by jasassin on Tuesday June 19 2018, @08:02PM (3 children)

    by jasassin (3566) <jasassin@gmail.com> on Tuesday June 19 2018, @08:02PM (#695254) Homepage Journal

    Do birthdays count when you're already dead?

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    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 19 2018, @08:06PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 19 2018, @08:06PM (#695255)

      It is official; Surveys now confirm: The EU is dying

      One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered EU last week when Italian minister Matteo Salvini denied human trafficking vessels the right to make port. With immigration pressures on Italy and Greece already at breaking point; political pressure on Angela Merkel in Germany lead the Germans and French to insist that migrants be offered 'asylum' in the first European country they enter. The EU is collapsing in complete disarray, as dead in the water as one of Merkel's drowned migrants.

      You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict the EU's future. The writing is on the wall: The EU faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for the EU because the EU is dying. Things are looking very bad for the EU. As many of us are aware, mass migration of unskilled migrants will spell the death knell for all welfare programs in EU member states.

      Let's stick to the facts and look at the numbers.

      Germany has admitted over 1 million migrants, 80% are unfit for anything other than menial work. Integration, housing and welfare costs will out-weigh their net economic contribution. Sex attacks committed by migrants have reached pandemic proportions across the entire continent. Tourism numbers in France and Germany have dwindled due to terrorism. Greece is bankrupt and unable to escape the crushing debt burden imposed by its membership in the Eurozone. The pension liabilities of the various EU institutions total over €63 billion.

      All major surveys show that the EU has lost the confidence of Europe's peoples. The EU is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If the EU is to survive at all it will be as a third world shithole. The EU continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save the EU from its fate at this point in time. For all practical purposes, the EU is dead.

      Fact: The EU is dying

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 19 2018, @11:28PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 19 2018, @11:28PM (#695360)

      Google seems to think so, they're doodle celebrates some dead bodies birthday almost every day it seems.

  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by frojack on Tuesday June 19 2018, @09:41PM (2 children)

    by frojack (1554) on Tuesday June 19 2018, @09:41PM (#695305) Journal

    Every couple years I take another look at FreeBSD or OpenBSD. Even tried NetBSD.

    It usually gets pretty tedious pretty quickly.
    As a general purpose work platform, you are always way behind the feature curve of just about ports package you would want to use, therefore requiring you to build them from source. Of course the source is usually not intended for FreeBSD/OpenBSD, so there's a bunch more waiting for that source to become available, or patching yourself.

    Pretty soon you are spending at least half your time maintaining your platform, while getting little other work done. FreeBSD fans love this because they actually have nothing else to do other than install and tweak their OS, and belittle anyone using any graphical interface apps.

    I suppose its time for me to start yet another tilt at the FreeBSD windmill, because I'm getting pretty sick of OpenBSD.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 19 2018, @10:58PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 19 2018, @10:58PM (#695344)

      I use OpenBSD exclusively, except for a few ARM boards that aren't well supported, and I've always found ports to be pretty up-to-date. The only ports I've modified from the original is urxvt to add the scrolling support patch, and a git flavor of luakit because they changed a bunch of configuration stuff and I didn't want to rewrite all of my configs to be compatible with the last stable release, and both were painless and easy. I am running -current though. Are there any particular packages you're referring too? I've found OpenBSD requires much less fiddling on my part than linux and I love how it all just works instead of requiring hacking around idiotic distro-maintainer choices and shit breaking with every update.

    • (Score: 2) by Dr Spin on Wednesday June 20 2018, @02:40PM

      by Dr Spin (5239) on Wednesday June 20 2018, @02:40PM (#695595)

      As a general purpose work platform, you are always way behind the feature curve of just about ports package you would want to use.

      So that they can be guaranteed stable and reliable, unlike where they are on the bleeding edge, and things that were working keep falling over in a heap.

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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 19 2018, @11:04PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 19 2018, @11:04PM (#695348)

    The best part of the BSDs is carefully debugging and patching a lib/program just to watch it disappear into a proprietary corporate product. You know the ones - muli-billion dollar company that never pushes out its fixes/updates to the public. Yeah, that's the best part of the BSDs.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @03:41AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @03:41AM (#695436)

      Of course that is the license and not the operating system. Your patches can remain free and open. If you want to make a principled stand, you can license your patched version under the GPL.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @12:20AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @12:20AM (#695378)

    Dead at age 24 [freebsd.org], too danged young.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @02:54PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 20 2018, @02:54PM (#695601)

      Feminists and SJWs love shoving their CoCs down people's throats.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by darkfeline on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:40AM

      by darkfeline (1030) on Thursday June 21 2018, @03:40AM (#695992) Homepage

      *backrub*

      Oh god, now I'm banned from FreeBSD.

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  • (Score: 2) by corey on Thursday June 21 2018, @12:24AM (1 child)

    by corey (2202) on Thursday June 21 2018, @12:24AM (#695892)

    Freebsd vitriol here. I say congrats to them. Survived so long without needing to reinvent itself all the time and deviate from the Unix philosophy with shit like systemd.

    I've been using fbsd on my server at home for years and now as a desktop. Server hasn't had a reboot in a year and I log on every few months to execute "freebsd-update fetch ; freebsd-update install ; pkg update". Done.

    • (Score: 2) by canopic jug on Friday June 22 2018, @07:27AM

      by canopic jug (3949) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 22 2018, @07:27AM (#696620) Journal

      Yes, they've done a great technical job over the years and hopefully will continue to do so for years to come. On the administrative side, one point that is usually neglected and often underrated whenever it actually is noticed is that the project is self-sustaining enough to have survived multiple rotations of the leadership without losing direction or quality. That is truly a sign of a mature, stable, and reliable project.

      However, don't count threats like systemd out yet. Some key people, including ones that inflicted the code of conduct on the project, keep sounding out the possibility of bringing systemd over to FreeBSD in all but name. They haven't stopped trying yet nor have they been driven away.

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