Ebola Outbreak Declared Global Health Emergency
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Ebola outbreak declared global health emergency
The World Health Organization has declared the Ebola crisis in the Democratic Republic of Congo a "public health emergency of international concern". The move may encourage wealthy donor countries to provide more cash.
But the WHO stopped short of saying borders should be closed, saying the risk of the disease spreading outside the region was not high.
The outbreak in DR Congo has killed more than 1,600 people. This week, the first case was detected in Goma, home to more than a million. The PHEIC emergency provision is the highest level of alarm the WHO can sound and has only been used four times previously. This includes the Ebola epidemic that devastated parts of West Africa from 2014 to 2016, and killed more than 11,000 people.
"It is time for the world to take notice," WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told a news conference in Geneva on Wednesday at which the emergency was declared. He said he accepted recommendations there should be no restrictions on travel or trade, and no entry screening of passengers at ports or airports outside the immediate region.
"While it does not change the reality on the ground for victims or partners engaged in the response, we hope it will bring the international attention that this crisis deserves," it said in a statement.
WHO Declares Ebola Outbreak an International Emergency
From WHO declares Ebola outbreak an international emergency
The World Health Organization on Wednesday declared the nearly year-long Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of the Congo a Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC).
The outbreak was declared on August 1, 2018 and has tallied 2,512 cases and 1,676 deaths. So far, it's centered in the DRC's North Kivu and Ituri provinces, which are on the eastern side of the country bordering South Sudan, Uganda, and Rwanda.
The declaration Wednesday follows the spread of Ebola to Goma, a DRC city of nearly 2 million people at the border with Rwanda that acts as hub of regional transportation. On Sunday, health workers there confirmed the city's first case in a 47-year-old pastor who had just arrived from Butembo, a DRC city that has struggled with the outbreak since last December.
The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies welcomed the move.
Previously: Measles is Killing More People in the DRC than Ebola-and Faster
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Measles is Killing More People in the DRC Than Ebola-And Faster:
Since January 2019, officials have recorded over 100,000 measles cases in the DRC, mostly in children, and nearly 2,000 have died. The figures surpass those of the latest Ebola outbreak in the country, which has tallied not quite 2,500 cases and 1,665 deaths since August 2018. The totals were noted by World Health Organization Director-General, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, in a speech today, July 15, at the United Nations Office in Geneva, Switzerland.
"Frankly, I am embarrassed to talk only about Ebola," Dr. Tedros said (he goes by his first name). He gave the speech in response to two new developments in the Ebola outbreak. That is that two Ebola responders were murdered in their home in the DRC city of Beni, and that officials on Sunday had identified the first case of Ebola in Goma, a DRC city of over one million at the border with Rwanda.
"Both of these events encapsulate the challenges we continue to face on a daily basis in DRC," he said. Tedros was referring to the scattering of disease—including Ebola and measles—as violence hampers outbreak responses and access to medical care. Since January, officials have counted 198 attacks on health responders, which left seven dead and 58 healthcare works and patients injured.
[...] So far, the Ebola outbreak has largely stayed in DRC's North Kivu and Ituri provinces, which sit on the eastern side of the country and border South Sudan, Uganda, and Rwanda. The measles outbreak, on the other hand, has spanned at least 23 of the country's 26 provinces. The health ministry declared an outbreak on June 10 and noted a 700% spike in the case count over the count in the first half of last year.
"And yet it gets little international attention," Dr. Tedro noted, adding that malaria also kills more than 50,000 people each year in the DRC.
Measles cases in developed countries are rarely fatal because of the availability of effective treatment at health care facilities. Measles is one of the most contagious diseases — just entering a room where an infected person passed through a few hours ago could lead to an infection because the disease exhibits airborne transmission. Further, people who have measles are contagious for 1-4 days before they exhibit any symptoms.
Should an outbreak take hold, it could overwhelm facilities' ability to treat all infected people. This is especially so if such an outbreak came during, say, flu season when hospitals are already under an increased load and fewer beds would be available for a concomitant measles outbreak.
And not just for your own health, either. Infants and the immune-compromized rely on herd immunity to keep them safe. As long as something like 93% of people have been vaccinated and have the vaccine "take", any instance of the disease would be hard-pressed to encounter another host to infect. At lower vaccination rates, there are enough susceptible people around that disease transmission becomes increasingly possible to the point that an epidemic could arise.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by XivLacuna on Thursday July 18 2019, @02:57PM (78 children)
The locals have been attacking health workers trying to stop the outbreak. They don't want our help. We should just shoot down any planes flying out or sink any ships trying to leave until Ebola burns itself out.
We can't let the possibility of being called racist to allow Ebola to spread to the rest of the world. The healthcare costs will be extreme if it gets out.
We don't have enough isolation rooms of sufficient rating in our hospitals to house Ebola victims.
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by NPC-131072 on Thursday July 18 2019, @03:12PM (1 child)
And Europe? [thebulletin.be] It's only a matter of time.
(Score: 1) by NPC-131072 on Thursday July 18 2019, @03:25PM
Bushmeat should only be imported [newscientist.com] to progressive states where it will be appreciated: California. [nbcnews.com]
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Bot on Thursday July 18 2019, @03:17PM (4 children)
This has been marked flamebait and possibly is.
But, the so called globalized society is too vulnerable to crises. Financial and sanitary. Because it is the geopolitical equivalent of spaghetti code.
No localism, no modularity, no reuse.
Flood in malaysia? no HD in seattle.
Outbreak in Africa? good luck containing it. You can only hope the bastards that profit on immigration (not only money but de/reconstruction of society itself) get their share of pathogens.
I have already written it here. The only reason for people to actively promote spaghetti code is to use it as a mean of control. The systemd of society.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @07:29PM (2 children)
I can tell you aren't a developer, and indeed have never worked on a non-trivial piece of software.
Spaghetti code isn't ever promoted; it is accepted as the cost of doing business. Writing clean code is nearly impossible, and even more so apriori. Spaghetti is just the cost of doing business. You try to fight against it, but it's not actively promoted.
It's just like the clutter in your closet or storage attic. I don't accuse you of trying to maintain control by keeping that old painting you inherieted from your grandmother in front of the box of stamps you've been collecting; it's just not worth the time and effort to make it better.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Friday July 19 2019, @08:43AM (1 child)
Your POV about the issue hasn't taken into account the parallel code/ socioeconomic system. Interdependencies Have Been Deliberately Introduced. Really systemd is a good metaphor.
Account abandoned.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @11:19AM
Get out of my profession, you racist, misogynist shitstain.
(Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Friday July 19 2019, @01:15PM
> No localism, no modularity, no reuse.
The advantage is that there is lots of redundancy.
If you want a metaphor, think "the internet"; lots of redundancy, but hard to control an infection.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 18 2019, @03:25PM (44 children)
One or more moderators may say that XivLacuna posted flamebait. I disagree, and strongly. Parent stated facts, then offered an opinion regarding those facts. The opinion is rational. Ebola is a serious threat, and those countries fighting it should be quarantined. AFTER an airliner full of passengers has spread the disease around the world, is awfully late to impose a quarantine.
Liars. The reason the borders aren't closed, is someone's profit. You can't smuggle contraband when the borders are closed, and the closure is enforced.
(Score: 4, Touché) by ikanreed on Thursday July 18 2019, @03:29PM (23 children)
Borders being closed are literally the time when people smuggle the most. What is wrong with your brain?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 18 2019, @03:37PM (22 children)
I said "enforced", as in, troops at the border. It may or may not be necessary to shoot to kill to stop border jumpers, but the troops will stop you, one way or the other. A rational human will decide that it's just too risky to try, and irrational humans can face the consequences of their irrationality.
(Score: 2) by ikanreed on Thursday July 18 2019, @03:50PM (17 children)
Okay, so your idea is to put soldiers across the entire extent of the Congolese border with the abstract aim of preventing deaths from quarantine risk, during an active civil war, when professional epidemiologists believe even basic closures are unnecessary?
It seems like every aspect of your approach is designed to achieve negative results. I mean I get that you're a fucking monster, but goddamn you're also stupid.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 18 2019, @03:57PM (15 children)
Tell me how stupid I am when a Boeing drops passengers infected with Ebola in a dozen major cities around the world. Tell me then who the monsters are.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by ikanreed on Thursday July 18 2019, @04:05PM (12 children)
"Imagine this actually quite tame hypothetical scenario I invented, now is that worse than the very real concentration camps I openly support?"
Fuck you. I hope to god there's a day when you pay for your crimes.
I could explain to you how wrong your view of Ebola transmission and control is, based on the science, but what the fuck is the point of facts to someone with no conscience?
(Score: 4, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 18 2019, @04:18PM (11 children)
Only the most ignorant, least informed people on earth can seriously consider the camps on our border as concentration camps. At Dachau, Jews checked in, but never checked out. On our border, brown people check in, and are eventually shipped south, or sent out into the US, with a court date. If you progressives would grow the fuck up, you would be so much easier to talk to.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @04:27PM
Actually only the most ignorant and hateful people agree with you. Reality, once again your nemesis.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Thursday July 18 2019, @04:57PM (6 children)
Or die in custody due to inadequate levels of housing and medical care being given to the prisoners (who should be regarded as detainees but are treated as prisoners...) because of a number of factors including that the detention facilities are being run by for-profit companies and that the notion that enforcement should be stepped up without allowing for sufficient budget to care for those enforced upon. If you would open your eyes and see that these are human beings, no matter their circumstances, and are being treated as livestock, you would be so much easier to talk to.
This sig for rent.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @05:03PM
"Then they shouldn't have come over illegally, they are criminals!"
How the wheels of suppressed racism turn :/
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Thursday July 18 2019, @05:54PM
The racism in the conservative bubble isn't a bug, it's a feature.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 18 2019, @06:53PM (3 children)
So, uhhhhhhmmmmm, we should have been prepared for this invasion, by having millions of air conditioned homes available for them? Treated as livestock? Let me tune up the world's smallest violin, and I'll play them a tune. We owe those people nothing. Just as I owe a trespasser on my land nothing, we owe those people nothing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @07:49PM (1 child)
If you detain someone then yes, you owe them humanitarian conditions. You are a terrible person. Like irredeemable at this point.
Did you just do a search/replace of "good" and "evil" in your brain? Humanity is one big family, but I guess that doesn't pass your tribal nature. I'll get a good laugh next time you accuse someone of identity / tribal politics.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @02:26AM
It's a guilty conscience. He knows what whites have done to the rest of the world, and now he's afraid of it happening to him to the point refugees the US itself is responsible for creating become an "invasion" by "military age males."
(Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Thursday July 18 2019, @09:17PM
As I said, if you would see them as human beings conversation could be easier. May you never collapse on somebody else's land (or in public) and they look at you and say, "I owe you nothing. Die."
But the better reason is this: "The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons." - Dostoyevsky.
This sig for rent.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @05:07PM (2 children)
ItS OnLy WrONg WiTh GenOcIdE *herp derp*
I think at this point we need to quarantine all Republicans in such camps until we get the country back on track.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 18 2019, @06:55PM (1 child)
FTFY
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @02:30AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by Dr Spin on Friday July 19 2019, @07:22AM
How stupid you are? Trump level stupid.
Have you any idea how big DRC is? How big the border is? You do realise a large part of the boarder is impassable jungle?
If you put a guard every 100M, how many guards would you need? with a supervisor to every 12 guards, and a manager
to each 12 supervisors, and then cooks, cleaners, transport staff? Logistical managers, military police, etc.
In a country where the army is not in control of the country due to the civil war?
What makes you think that the boarder guards won't be shot by the various parties to the civil war? Or die of Ebola on the job?
That is just the DRC. You were talking about Africa as a whole. Think about trying to do this to the whole of South America - then double it.
Are you nuts? on a scale of 0 -10, you are at 11.
Warning: Opening your mouth may invalidate your brain!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @08:22AM
OK, if you insist! Runaway1956, you are really, really stupid. You are profoundly stupid. As 孔子 said,
http://ly.exuezhe.com/Chapter/SearchResultChapterContent?id=5&chapterId=5.21&query=%E9%82%A6&pageIndex=1&pageSize=10 [exuezhe.com]
America is in disorder, and none can equal your stupidity, Runaway1956. I hope you are proud of yourself.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @10:11PM
Not "also"! It's Runaway's primary personality trait!
(Score: 5, Informative) by deimtee on Thursday July 18 2019, @04:01PM (3 children)
The DRC land border is 10480 km (6512.5 miles) long. Be a hell of a job to fully close that.
source: https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-countries-border-the-democratic-republic-of-the-congo.html [worldatlas.com]
If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @04:40PM
The subject of the thread is not "Quarantine DRC" but "Quarantine Africa".
(Score: 3, Funny) by Rivenaleem on Thursday July 18 2019, @04:56PM
We need to get our finest mind on the case. Paging @realDonaldTrump
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @05:18PM
It shouldn't be that hard; just build a wall. I'm sure Mexico will pay for it.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday July 18 2019, @05:51PM (17 children)
What, flamebait?
I mean, all he did was advocate for the murder of civilians based solely on their national origin!
Some rigtwingers have been committing acts of terrorism. If I were to call for your murder because of that you'd probably consider it flamebait. (Although, maybe you wouldn't, you did call for MY murder in one of your journals)
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 18 2019, @06:46PM (16 children)
I called for your murder? Really? You'll have to point that out. If you're talking about that post that 'Zumi goes on about, then you'll recall that I predicated the call for liberal deaths with a civil war. Call a spade a spade - if/when the left launches a civil war because they disapprove of the lawfully elected president, then piles of bodies in the streets are the expected result.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday July 18 2019, @06:55PM (15 children)
So you said something else before you called for my murder. That makes it so much better!
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 18 2019, @07:20PM (14 children)
Are you advocating for a civil war, and the removal of the lawfully elected government? Are you one of those who wants to usurp the power and authorities of the President of the United States? You do realize that the term to describe that is "treason".
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday July 18 2019, @07:32PM
Nope, once again you are describing your own actions.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @10:16PM (12 children)
Just calling for the legal removal of a legally elected POTUS. It's called "impeachment". If you illegally oppose the same, who is the traitor now? "Runaway Back!"
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 18 2019, @11:21PM (11 children)
Based on what high crime or misdemeanor?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @11:33PM (6 children)
Yes, all of them.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 18 2019, @11:44PM (5 children)
"I don't like the man" is not an impeachable offense.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @07:31AM
Emoluments Clause by itself is enough. Perjury, a la Clinton, is good too. Sex Trafficking of minors? Higher Education fraud. Obstruction of justice. Collusion with foreign powers. Tax evasion. Small hands. Nepotism. Defamation of sitting members of Congress. Putting armor on the Washington Mall. Yeah, don't like him. Because of the High Crimes and Misdemeanors!
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday July 19 2019, @11:56AM (3 children)
Oh go to Hell and this time STAY there until this whole plague of humans blows over. His crimes are well-known and have been listed by, among other people, the AC directly below you. Mueller only did not go after him because precedent (not law, apparently...?) forbids prosecuting a sitting president. What a shitshow.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 19 2019, @02:37PM (2 children)
You gotta remember something though. Before being convicted, you'll have to PROVE one or more of those charges.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @11:04PM (1 child)
You are such a worm.
May everyone on this site forever remember what hides in that rotting heart of yours. You don't even have the excuse of ignorance, you've had reality explained to you countless times on this site alone.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 19 2019, @11:18PM
Keep explaining your version of "reality". If senility ever catches up to me, I may be prescribed some drugs good enough to convince me that you know what you are talking about.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @01:28PM (3 children)
1. For starters, there's obstruction of justice (and secondarily conspiracy to obstruct justice) clearly laid out in the Mueller report (and played out on national television), that's a high crime.
2. Next there's conspiring with a foreign government ("Russia, if you're listening...") although the Mueller report says there's insufficient evidence to charge a broader conspiracy (but not no evidence, let's be clear). That's another high crime.
3. Next there's using campaign funds to make hush money payments to pornstars regarding affairs. Campaign finance violations are fairly serious crimes too.
4. I suppose the inciting violence at his early rallies can be treated as either a high crime or a misdemeanor, whichever you prefer.
These are just the ones that came to me off the top of my head.
Shall we go through the trouble of researching for even more? Or should we hold him to at least a tenth of the strict standard that you would hold a democrat to?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 19 2019, @02:43PM (2 children)
By all means, hold him to the strict standards that I would hold a Democrat to. Teflon Bill, for instance? I never gave the smallest of damns whether he got a blow job in the White House, or not. Nor did I care that he may have lied about getting a blowjob. I didn't even care that he doubled down on his lie about a blowjob, again and again. That was all meaningless bullshit - he knew it, I knew it, the R's knew it, the D's knew it. About the only people who took it seriously, were the morons in the media. Kenneth Starr should have been brought up on charges for squandering multiple fortunes on an investigation over meaningless bullshit.
What pissed me off about the entire affair are the charges that were never discussed, let alone made against him. Treason. Bill should have gone to prison for selling military technology to the Chinese.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @06:16PM (1 child)
Who's "Bill"? Why are you talking about him?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @11:06PM
Oh that is easy, Bill is one of those Buttery Males that Runaway was repeatedly told to look for.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday July 18 2019, @07:34PM (1 child)
Context, Al. Based on his previous history, his post could be accurately translated as "this is the opportunity I've been waiting for to finally commit genocide and wipe all the Africans [NB: he's not going to use the word "Africans" here...] off the face of the earth like the vermin I believe them to be."
THAT is why he gets marked Flamebait. People like him just LOVE opportunities like this where they can spread their tiny cheetos-dust-and-semen-caked hands in a gesture of offended innocence and whine about how they're being "censored" for "stating facts" and "being rational."
I can't tell if they truly think everyone else is dumb enough to fall for that shit, or just so contemptuous of decent people that they know we won't and don't give a shit.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @11:09PM
Glad you found the fortitude to continue edumacatin' these varmints ;)
(Score: 5, Insightful) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Thursday July 18 2019, @04:36PM (4 children)
Tried to FTFY, but just can't get past your racism.
You are scaremongering. Nothing more. Here is the truth about hospital precautions for Ebola [cdc.gov]. You're welcome.
This sig for rent.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @04:53PM (3 children)
"racism" is a leftist ideological construct
(Score: 3, Touché) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Thursday July 18 2019, @05:02PM
It also exists.
This sig for rent.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @05:14PM
So is money, morality, and all things societal.
Did your mom drink while she was pregnant?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @02:32AM
race is a right-wing ideological construct
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @05:00PM (7 children)
I just KNEW this type of comment was going to feature prominently in the discussion. How I wish we could view an alternate timeline where the Ebola outbreak is in Norway and we could see how the RWNJs respond.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 18 2019, @07:23PM (5 children)
There's your version of racism. Ebola wouldn't be so bad if it affected Norwegians. Why do you hate Norwegians?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday July 18 2019, @07:59PM (4 children)
Come on now, even you aren't THAT fucking dumb. ...are you?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 18 2019, @11:51PM (3 children)
I looked at some of his posts. He does seem to live on EF's side of town. Still, EF is mostly moderated honestly, rather than shot down just because he posts an unpopular opinion. We could do the same for this guy.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @08:28AM (1 child)
Umm, she was responding to you, Runaway. We repeat the question, "Are you THAT fucking dumb. ...are you?"
Think before you answer, Runaway!
Oh, crap, who am I fooling? How would that make any difference?
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday July 19 2019, @12:02PM
I do believe we already know the answer. Runaway is actually a lot like a miniature Trump, in the sense that his entire schtick is to lie, deflect, and pretend to be witty. #Sad!
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @11:27PM
"Moderated honestly" as in modded down all the fucking time for his trolling racism? Ok, you can start oh "I'm the least racist conservative ON sn!"
At this point it is clear you have emotional blocks related to your political ideology which prevent you from seeing _very obvious patterns_ and _factual evidence_ while claiming your "enemy" is the one doing it. It is ridiculous, but it is happening to literally tens of millions of people because a culture of hatred (emotion) has been created.
The ideas of genocide and apathy came all too quickly into the discussion, encouraged by the highest office in the US setting the bar lower than ever. Get a grip conservatives. I'm sure some of you are _very fine people_, and I mean that sincerely. Yes "very fine people" is also a joke about Trump's usage but here I mean it; there are Libertarians and Republicans I have respect for.
*berniebro out*
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @01:18AM
Not Norway, would be because socialism or Russian biological weapon or something stupid. Only a matter of time until whites have to deal with it. How many Africans need to die first? I'm hoping for it to emerge in Michigan's calvinist no-go zone for maximum irony.
(Score: 2) by exaeta on Thursday July 18 2019, @06:51PM
The Government is a Bird
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday July 18 2019, @07:51PM
Funny, I *hear* (well, read) what you're saying, but the underlying message just sounds like the N-word a bunch of times overlain on some gigglesnorting attempts at evil laughter. Sounds to me like you're *really* saying something like "FINALLY, an excuse to wipe these subhumans off the map, and we'll even have clean hands at the end of it!"
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Thursday July 18 2019, @09:03PM (1 child)
One guy in your street likes shooting at first responders.
Someone in your house has a heart attack.
By your logic, the person in your house is out of luck. No ambulances will come to you, because of the man up the street.
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @01:46PM
Retarded analogy.
Better analogy: Idiot anti-vaxxer does not get their kid vaccinated. Measles outbreak occurs. Local school refuses to allow said kid to come back to school until outbreak is declared over.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @10:44PM (3 children)
Whites are so fucked! Get your fucking imperialism out of DR Congo. Stop fucking experimenting on Africans! Oh, muh aid workers! Muh aid workers! I think whites know exactly what they did to earn the suspicion of the brown and black people of the world. Remember the vaccines that weren't? Whites don't get to play victim, jackass.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @11:04PM (2 children)
http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9510/ghana_slavery/ [cnn.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @01:11AM (1 child)
ugh
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @01:26AM
le sigh! yikes!
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday July 19 2019, @03:02AM
Exactly. That's why you fight now before you have to quarantine an entire continent for years.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @04:18AM
The problem with calling this flamebait outright is the kernel of truth.
It's expressed here in a revolting way, but the problem is nonetheless there: how to deliver aid to persons who are not receptive? Their being nonreceptive is understandable, historically when persons have done as authority commands, there, they have often been grossly taken advantage of. "Westerners" are very much to blame for this, as individuals and the societal structures we support (corporations, large national govts structured to be vulnerable to bribes, world bank value extraction, mining rights, etc etc). But the problem remains.
Still, despite that kernel of truth, the expression of parent is definitely trolling hard.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @07:24AM
Fixed It For You. I feel much the same way about Red states. We have tried vaccines, we have tried education, all to no avail. Now I feel quarantine is the only option. Seal the borders, and air-drop lots of guns and ammo, and a few Lutherans. That ought to do it.
(Score: 2) by corey on Saturday July 20 2019, @02:29AM (1 child)
Citations please. Your comment is the first I've heard that the locals are attacking the medics.
Sounds like you're taking information and making assumptions from it to support your preconceived opinions. Then coming here and attempting to make it sound like fact. I'd like to get to the bottom of your so called facts.
(Score: 2) by Dr Spin on Saturday July 20 2019, @07:43AM
Your comment is the first I've heard that the locals are attacking the medics.
Then you probably need to let go of the Xbox and start reading the news. "Zombie Attack" probably won't kill you, but being seriously ill-informed quite possibly will.
Warning: Opening your mouth may invalidate your brain!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @04:41PM (19 children)
...then shoot em in the dark
On a more serious note: isn't is past time for a quarantine?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Thursday July 18 2019, @04:47PM (18 children)
One of the Nova episodes about one of the Ebola outbreaks (I think they've done two) pointed out that Ebola jumped borders despite border screenings. Because someone in a village who started to have symptoms was scared, and walked the 6 miles to another village and crossed the border in the process.
The notion that one can quarantine something nationally is fantasy. Better to (at most) stop and screen every person for symptoms, and even then you'll have people get past it.
The short answer is no.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @05:47PM (12 children)
They walked 6 miles with ebola?
(Score: 2) by Farmer Tim on Thursday July 18 2019, @06:25PM (9 children)
Came for the news, stayed for the soap opera.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18 2019, @07:04PM (8 children)
> It is believed that between people, Ebola disease spreads only by direct contact with the blood or other body fluids of a person who has developed symptoms of the disease.[48][49][50] Body fluids that may contain Ebola viruses include saliva, mucus, vomit, feces, sweat, tears, breast milk, urine and semen.[4][35] The WHO states that only people who are very sick are able to spread Ebola disease in saliva, and whole virus has not been reported to be transmitted through sweat. Most people spread the virus through blood, feces and vomit....when someone has symptoms of the disease, they are unable to travel without assistance
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_disease [wikipedia.org]
Why are people coming into contact w blood, vomit, and feces if there are no symptoms?
(Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Thursday July 18 2019, @09:08PM (7 children)
Because the symptoms can be mistaken for typhoid or some gastroenteric condition like some (rarer) forms of food poisoning or (very rarely) flu - most influenzas do not involve vomiting, but still.
All the family member knows is the person is sick. So they take care of them as best they can. And contract the disease.
Maybe the person tries to clean themselves up after diarrhea and the hand accidentally contacts some feces and the person either doesn't see it or doesn't wash their hands well enough. Now everything touched is a possible infector. It is known to spread via fomites (technical name for the host contacting inanimate objects that the receiver then touches).
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @04:36AM (6 children)
So ebola is like a bad case of food poisoning. Then it sucks but isn't that bad unless you are in the middle of nowhere without proper access to sanitation and climate control and fluids.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @11:45AM (1 child)
I seriously hope that it emerges in the white world soon.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @02:38PM
Point #1 If it does you can bet it will be in the densest part of the bluest of liberal areas.
Point #2 This is exactly the kind of thing that demonstrates the racism inherent in the left.
(Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Friday July 19 2019, @02:21PM (2 children)
Not a great analogy, because food poisioning is usually bacterial although 1/3rd of cases are indeed viral. But true only if the food poisoning has a 50%-90% fatality rate that induces clotting all over the vascular system which can cause systemic hemorrhage. It's not like botulism where if you get the person respiratory support (put them on ventillator when necessary from 2-8 weeks) the person usually pulls through even without antitoxin. And while EVD is a contact disease it isn't just enteral as many food poisonings are, but rather believed to be mucous membrane contact which transmits it IIRC.
There are treatments and vaccines still in development for EVD as well. But the point is, more like many viruses, there is little to be done except supportive care once one has contracted the disease. Supportive care is still very important, but it isn't like there's a magic protocol which makes the virus go away.
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(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Friday July 19 2019, @02:38PM (1 child)
EVD?
Do you mean Ebola?
I looked up EVD and all I found was External ventricular drain, which is probably not what you meant.
(Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Friday July 19 2019, @03:31PM
Ebola Virus Disease [who.int], the 'official' name of Ebola now instead of Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever. Ebola is a river near where the first cases were identified in 1976.
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(Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Friday July 19 2019, @02:22PM
What I missed saying but implied was that just because one has climate control and fluids does not equal recovery, as it does with many types of food poisoning.
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(Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Thursday July 18 2019, @09:05PM (1 child)
This is how I remember it... I tried looking for the reference but couldn't find it, so if I'm wrong then I'm wrong. I thought it was during the 2014 Sierra Leone outbreak but I could really be wrong about that. The story as I remember it was that the woman was sick, and she knew it, but was afraid to go to the treatment center in her town where the outbreak was occurring. So she made a night border crossing across the "river" into another village where she had relatives, but it was over the border. African countries' borders are fairly porous. The authorities caught up to her and treated her, and she survived. ("Treatment" then meaning supportive care and hopefully the immune system fights it off.)
We have this image that Ebola is a thing where you are bleeding out of every orifice with arterial level gushing. Bleeding can in fact happen, but only 18% [nih.gov] present with it as a symptom before disease detection. The patient is much more likely to be hypovolemic and therefore without a lot of resources to bleed.
The notion is that if you close the border the people who are desperate will still find ways to cross a few miles to either side of it. Keep the border open but screen people and you might be able to get the people who need treatment into treatment. The advantage is that the disease isn't infectious until symptoms appear but the symptoms can be mistaken for typhoid or other diseases. The disadvantage is that the symptoms can be mild.
Here's the question... if you had fever and bouts of vomiting and diarrhea, maybe a little bit of bloody in the stool but your body has played out for the moment, do you think you could walk 5 miles if you thought that meant safety to you? I could do it if I had to and I'm not an athelete.
One of the other things that those who work with the disease are learning is that they can't just don their protective gear and walk into a village. They have to go in with civvies and then put on the gear to decontaminate if they find a suspected case.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by PiMuNu on Friday July 19 2019, @01:19PM
Not to mention people who are infected, travel, and then exhibit symptoms and become infectious.
"There is ebola in my village, I'm getting out of here"
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Friday July 19 2019, @12:34AM (4 children)
I had a professor in college, David Laitin [stanford.edu], who used to make a point about Africa and its politics that is relevant here: Africa's political borders are not congruent with its ethnic, tribal, cultural, or linguistic borders. In other words, identity formation there is not necessarily bounded by nation-state constructs.
So people of one tribe on one side of a national border might think nothing of crossing that border to seek refuge with other members of that tribe on the other side of the national border, because those affective ties are much stronger than the artificial political ones imposed by European colonial powers a couple hundred years ago. It has always been cited in political science circles as an intractable cause of political dysfunction in Africa, but it probably complicates epidemiological attempts to control outbreaks as well.
It gets even more complicated when considering that those fuzzy borders blur across the parts of Africa that are part of the Islamic sphere; that might help it jump to other nations outside Africa even if all flights and ships from Africa were blocked.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19 2019, @07:35AM (2 children)
Why is that, do you think?
(Just re-enforcing your point.)
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday July 19 2019, @11:59AM (1 child)
My guess on this one would be because the idea of nation-state borders as we think of them was largely a European construct imposed on Africa? Hell, that's one reason the Middle East is so completely fucked up; the Balfour Declaration drew arbitrary lines in the sand, almost literally, and cut right across tribal and familial borders without so much as a by-your-leave. Cultural mismatches kill.
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(Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Friday July 19 2019, @02:26PM
The Partition of India, as well.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by Dr Spin on Friday July 19 2019, @07:43AM
even if all flights and ships from Africa were blocked.
A large part of the population is completely disconnected from urbanised life. For thousands of years, they
have travelled in small boats by river or sea, or by camel over land, for weeks, with no concern for governments,
which mostly lack skill, resources or any kind of good intention, and you may understand how this view is
sufficiently westernised to lack any grip on reality.
or, for Americans:
Imagine you are the Trump government, and you have to round up people in remote parts of Appalachia
and explain to them that they are in danger from aliens who escaped from Area 51. Now think of Appalachia
being as big as USA + Canada, with the entire US government played by Chuck Norris and Will Smith,
led by Homer Simpson, and then multiply the problems by 10.
When you say tribe, in this context, you mean "immediate family".
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