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posted by martyb on Friday October 11 2019, @12:50PM   Printer-friendly
from the its-quiet-awl-write-two-laugh-hat-you're-miss-steaks dept.

I was recently introduced to Professor Paul Brians' web site at Washington State University (WSU). I know I've made many mistakes like these over the years, and would like to think that I have learned from those mistakes. Would that I could have learned them, then, without having to go through those experiences.

So, with a sense of gratitude for what I've been taught and learned so far, and in hopes that it might afford a Soylentil a chance to avoid a red-face-inducing faux pas, I offer you examples of some Common Errors in English Usage:

People send me quite a few word confusions which don't seem worth writing up but which are nevertheless entertaining or interesting. I simply list a number of these below for your amusement. Many of them are discussed on the Eggcorn Database site.

Note: if you don't find what you're looking for below, please be aware that this is only a supplementary page to a much more extensive site that begins here.

NOTE: This is a greatly thinned list of examples from the linked page and has been reformatted for use here. Ellipses ([...]) between entries are implied.

What was saidWhat was meant
ad homonymad hominem
aerobic numbersArabic numbers
ashfaultasphalt
Cadillac convertercatalytic converter
circus sizedcircumcised
deformation of characterdefamation of character
flamingo dancerflamenco dancer
four-stair heatingforced-air heating
gentile mannersgenteel manners
glaucomoleglaucoma
gorilla warfareguerilla warfare
Heineken removerHeimlich maneuver
immaculate degenerationmacular degeneration
in sinkin synch
ivy towerivory tower
misconscrewmisconstrue
muncho manmacho man
parody of virtueparagon of virtue
piece of mindpeace of mind
pot-bellied politicspork-barrel politics
shock waysshockwaves
techknowledgytechnology
two sense worthtwo cents' worth
tyrannical yolktyrannical yoke
very close veinsvaricose veins
windshield factorwind chill factor

What are your favorites — either from this list — or from elsewhere?

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  • (Score: 2) by gtomorrow on Friday October 11 2019, @12:58PM (22 children)

    by gtomorrow (2230) on Friday October 11 2019, @12:58PM (#905700)

    What I wanna know is...

    Is it "tow the line" or "toe the line"?

    Ahh, the beauty of the English language.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by gtomorrow on Friday October 11 2019, @01:02PM (13 children)

      by gtomorrow (2230) on Friday October 11 2019, @01:02PM (#905702)

      Sorry...forgot to add one of my favorites...

      "...for all intensive purposes." That one, for me, immediately knocks the person down two rungs on the intelligence ladder.

      • (Score: 4, Funny) by DannyB on Friday October 11 2019, @02:03PM (7 children)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 11 2019, @02:03PM (#905738) Journal

        Intensive Porpoises.

        If your porpoise is to communicate effectively, you need to listen to it more carefully.

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        • (Score: 2) by gtomorrow on Friday October 11 2019, @02:15PM (5 children)

          by gtomorrow (2230) on Friday October 11 2019, @02:15PM (#905753)

          Four rungs down for you! :D :D :D

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @02:41PM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @02:41PM (#905774)

            Use of emojiis, BOTTOM OF THE PILE! :P

            • (Score: 3, Informative) by Osamabobama on Friday October 11 2019, @04:29PM (1 child)

              by Osamabobama (5842) on Friday October 11 2019, @04:29PM (#905873)

              Emojis are graphical; these are emoticons.

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              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 12 2019, @07:14PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 12 2019, @07:14PM (#906409)

                Ah the irony of you being a grammar nazi >:)

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @04:41PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @04:41PM (#905880)

              Use of emojiis, BOTTOM OF THE PILE! :P

              LOL.

              Alright, then. I'll just get me coat.

          • (Score: 2) by VanessaE on Saturday October 12 2019, @07:34AM

            by VanessaE (3396) <vanessa.e.dannenberg@gmail.com> on Saturday October 12 2019, @07:34AM (#906257) Journal

            THERE! ARE! FOUR! RUNGS!

            Wait, what?

        • (Score: 5, Funny) by archfeld on Friday October 11 2019, @07:17PM

          by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Friday October 11 2019, @07:17PM (#905996) Journal

          People use that one to increase the endolphin rush :)

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      • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Friday October 11 2019, @08:36PM

        by acid andy (1683) on Friday October 11 2019, @08:36PM (#906033) Homepage Journal

        Its rediculous you wood pickup that pacific fing. Did you loose your come on sence? Ofcourse we can chock it up to your in experience.

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      • (Score: 2) by SpockLogic on Saturday October 12 2019, @01:56AM (3 children)

        by SpockLogic (2762) on Saturday October 12 2019, @01:56AM (#906156)

        "...for all intensive purposes."

        I had a young typist return a report with "... to all in tents and porpoises ...". It took me five minutes to stop laughing.

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        • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday October 12 2019, @09:25AM

          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 12 2019, @09:25AM (#906275) Journal

          While it really should have been "to all intents and purposes"! That's possibly why she got it wrong.

          Did you both have a good laugh at each other?

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          [nostyle RIP 06 May 2025]
        • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday October 12 2019, @09:32AM (1 child)

          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 12 2019, @09:32AM (#906276) Journal

          I may have misunderstood your comment - if so please excuse my correction. I read it as you saying 'intensive purposes' and the secretary recording it as you described.

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          [nostyle RIP 06 May 2025]
          • (Score: 2) by SpockLogic on Saturday October 12 2019, @01:01PM

            by SpockLogic (2762) on Saturday October 12 2019, @01:01PM (#906311)

            I had dictated "to all intents and purposes" and got back her gut busting version. Even though it was nearly 40 years ago it still makes me smile when I think about it.

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            Overreacting is one thing, sticking your head up your ass hoping the problem goes away is another - edIII
    • (Score: 2) by choose another one on Friday October 11 2019, @02:17PM (1 child)

      by choose another one (515) on Friday October 11 2019, @02:17PM (#905756)

      > Is it "tow the line" or "toe the line"?

      Depends what you are doing. Although normally you tow something _with_ the line...

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday October 11 2019, @02:39PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 11 2019, @02:39PM (#905773) Journal

        That is a: tough road to how

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by JoeMerchant on Friday October 11 2019, @03:42PM (2 children)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday October 11 2019, @03:42PM (#905835)

      Typically, it's "toe the line" like an actor does when "hitting their mark" - step up, stand in your assigned place (generally implies: thinking for yourself is wrong.)

      Anyone else with Appalachian ancestry have to hear about the chimley that Sanny Claws came down?

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      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 11 2019, @04:07PM (1 child)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 11 2019, @04:07PM (#905850) Journal

        Ahhhh, the chimley. Had a teacher who told us that there were three words and phrases that would identify Western Pennsylvanians, no matter where they went in the world. "you'ns" instead of the southern "y'all", "red the table" instead of "clear the table", - and I've forgotten the third. "Chimley" was how we pronounced chimney, but that wasn't strictly Western Pennsylvania.

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        • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday October 11 2019, @04:49PM

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday October 11 2019, @04:49PM (#905886)

          Television is destroying regional dialects, I'd guess they're 90%+ extinguished already.

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          🌻🌻🌻 [google.com]
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @05:53PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @05:53PM (#905938)

      It is "toe the line," as in line up with your toes on it.

      Apparently, it comes from starting a race, everyone "toes the line" so as to be ready when the race starts. They are all orderly and ready to act at a moment's notice.

      • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday October 12 2019, @09:39AM

        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 12 2019, @09:39AM (#906278) Journal

        There is also 'tow the line' which means that you have to do your fair share of doing an arduous task. It relates to the people who used to pull barges along the canals of Europe using a towline to move goods. They took it in turns pulling the load from the front, and keeping the barge away from the side of the canal which is a much easier task. They had to take turns in towing the line to make sure they all did their share of the work. However, toe the line is a much more common usage because more people understand its origin.

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        [nostyle RIP 06 May 2025]
    • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Friday October 11 2019, @09:03PM

      by acid andy (1683) on Friday October 11 2019, @09:03PM (#906048) Homepage Journal

      I dont no witch once it is...

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @12:59PM (11 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @12:59PM (#905701)

    If you pronounce it like "Are" you sound like an idiot as does your English teacher. It's pronounced like "Hour".

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:06PM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:06PM (#905704)

      It's pronounced like "Hour".

      How do you pronounce a silent "H"?

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:11PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:11PM (#905705)

        " "

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:35PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:35PM (#905719)

        Like you do in Aluminhum instead of Aluminium.

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Friday October 11 2019, @02:37PM

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 11 2019, @02:37PM (#905771) Journal

          Oy hear eat pronounced down under as Al You Min Eee Um.

          Electric is pronounced AL-ectric.

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      • (Score: 5, Funny) by DannyB on Friday October 11 2019, @02:08PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 11 2019, @02:08PM (#905742) Journal

        To sound like a Brit,
        1. Remove the leading H from words that have one
        2. Add a leading H to words that do not have one

        P1: What was that bird sound?
        P2: I think it was an Awk.
        P1: I think it sounded more like a Howl.

        To sound like an Aussie, is more difficult:

        Oy saw a snike. Eat head beeg blow oys and a huge tile.

        (it's a joke, not to be taken too seriously, jokes about American English welcome equally)

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      • (Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Friday October 11 2019, @04:17PM

        by Rupert Pupnick (7277) on Friday October 11 2019, @04:17PM (#905860) Journal

        Like the "p" in "swimming".

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:13PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:13PM (#905706)

      Can you pronounce "fedora"? Can you tip it?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:39PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:39PM (#905724)

        "Red Hat"

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Friday October 11 2019, @02:08PM (1 child)

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 11 2019, @02:08PM (#905744) Journal

          I pronounce it "Mint".

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          • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @03:14PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @03:14PM (#905810)

            Windows (only the operating system, not glass panes) has also been mispronounced for decades. The correct pronunciation is...
            "cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit"

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by maxwell demon on Friday October 11 2019, @01:30PM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Friday October 11 2019, @01:30PM (#905715) Journal
      --
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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Friday October 11 2019, @01:13PM (13 children)

    by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Friday October 11 2019, @01:13PM (#905707) Journal

    I could care less about your list.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:31PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:31PM (#905716)

      On the contrary. Very useful to feed Google's reCaptcha! Lots of fun guaranteed!

      You most times don't even need a single correct word and many it works after a few tries even with all naughty ones.
      One of my favorites is: https -> ache tittie pee ass

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday October 11 2019, @02:12PM (6 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 11 2019, @02:12PM (#905749) Journal

      I care very much about the list. Especially the fact that we cannot post tables. I've occasionally wanted to include a short table. I've seen useful posts with useful tables used in a usefully useful way.

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      • (Score: 4, Informative) by RamiK on Friday October 11 2019, @04:12PM

        by RamiK (1813) on Friday October 11 2019, @04:12PM (#905854)

        we cannot post tables.

        Try this: http://www.tablesgenerator.com/text_tables [tablesgenerator.com]

        Wrap it in <ecode>foobar</ecode> as follows:

        ╔═════════════════╦════════════════╗
        ║ What was said   ║ What was meant ║
        ╠═════════════════╬════════════════╣
        ║ ad homonym      ║ ad hominem     ║
        ╠═════════════════╬════════════════╣
        ║ aerobic numbers ║ Arabic numbers ║
        ╠═════════════════╬════════════════╣
        ║ ashfault        ║ asphalt        ║
        ╚═════════════════╩════════════════╝

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      • (Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Friday October 11 2019, @05:08PM (4 children)

        by bzipitidoo (4388) on Friday October 11 2019, @05:08PM (#905895) Journal

        Should of lobbied SoylentNews harder for table markup, eh?

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday October 11 2019, @02:12PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 11 2019, @02:12PM (#905750) Journal

      Do you mean you could NOT care less about the list?

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @02:44PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @02:44PM (#905776)

      Best part is every woosh. Gotta admit you got me for a sec too.

      • (Score: 2) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Friday October 11 2019, @04:16PM (1 child)

        by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Friday October 11 2019, @04:16PM (#905859) Journal

        Best part is every whoosh. Gotta admit you got me for a sec too.

        Right back atcha.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 12 2019, @07:21PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 12 2019, @07:21PM (#906410)

          Nice hwoosh on a compliment

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @07:11PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @07:11PM (#905995)

      I could care less about your list.

      What steps can we take to make you do so?

      We're here to help!

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:14PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:14PM (#905708)

    I wonder how that list would split if one would take the fact into account if the speaker would be a native English speaker or not. And education level of said speaker. Another interesting thing would be written words v.s. spoken words, as a non-native speaker I wouldn't have problems with pronouncing some words, however writing them down would be more difficult for me).

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:46PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:46PM (#905728)

      That depends how you learnt English: reading vs listening tv.

      As a non-native speaker I wouldn't have problems writting most words, however knowing how to pronounce many is more difficult.

      The consolation is that even most educated native English speakers are unable to correctly utter unkown words.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @02:00PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @02:00PM (#905736)

        "Tomato Tomato"

        Oh, wait!

        "təˈmɑːtəʊ təˈmeɪtoʊ"

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday October 11 2019, @02:34PM (1 child)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 11 2019, @02:34PM (#905768) Journal

        If by "listening tv" you mean FoxNews.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @03:14PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @03:14PM (#905809)

          Or see an ant

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 11 2019, @04:14PM (2 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 11 2019, @04:14PM (#905856) Journal

        That depends how you learnt English: reading vs listening tv.

        Third option? At Momma's and Grandma's knees. Yeah, we had television when I was a kid, but, we kids only watched it on Saturday mornings when the cartoons were on. The rest of the time, parents were watching stuff that didn't interest the kids at all. By the time we were interested in most of television, we had already learned out dialectical English.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @06:05PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @06:05PM (#905947)

          Third option? At Momma's and Grandma's knees. Yeah, we had television when I was a kid, but,

          But, you were lucky you weren't eaten as a baby before you started to blather out your dialectic, Comrade!

          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 11 2019, @11:23PM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 11 2019, @11:23PM (#906098) Journal

            Yes, Momma and Grandma protected me from the liberals, neoliberals, and progressives.

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    • (Score: 4, Informative) by NotSanguine on Friday October 11 2019, @08:32PM

      I wonder how that list would split if one would take the fact into account if the speaker would be a native English speaker or not.

      From the maintainer of the website of TFA [wsu.edu]:

      I’m learning English as a second language. Will this site help me improve my English?

      Very likely, though it’s really aimed at the most common errors of native speakers. The errors others make in English differ according to the characteristics of their first languages. Speakers of other languages tend to make some specific errors that are uncommon among native speakers, so you may also want to consult sites dealing specifically with English as a second language (see, for example, “Curricular Resources in English“). There is also an ESL On-Line Help Desk for students at Washington State University. An outstanding book you may want to order is Ann Raimes’ Keys for Writers. [emphasis added]

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    • (Score: 2) by KritonK on Sunday October 13 2019, @03:13PM

      by KritonK (465) on Sunday October 13 2019, @03:13PM (#906635)

      As a non-native English speaker, my reaction to this list was "do people actually make any of these mistakes"?

      As people make equivalent mistakes in my language, I'm afraid the answer is "yes".

      I suppose the critical factor, that determines whether one makes this kind of mistake, is whether one has learned such expressions by listening to others say them (more likely for native speakers) or by seeing them in print (more likely for non-native speakers).

  • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Friday October 11 2019, @01:18PM (6 children)

    by maxwell demon (1608) on Friday October 11 2019, @01:18PM (#905710) Journal

    I indeed could care less, because I do care. But most people who claim they could care less actually mean they couldn't care less. And it still amazes me how anybody can get that wrong, given that it is a very simple phrase with a very clear meaning, and the two phrases say exactly the opposite of each other.

    A lot of the examples in the list above really need specific knowledge. Without specific knowledge in either medical or ancient language, there's no way you could figure out on your own that “glaucomole” is wrong and “glaucoma” is right, so I don't blame anyone on getting that one wrong (unless it's someone in a position where that knowledge is expected; I'd hesitate to go to an eye doctor who doesn't get that one right). But deciding whether “I could care less” or “I couldn't care less” is the right phrase needs no more than basic understanding of the English language and elementary school level logic. And yet people constantly get it wrong.

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    • (Score: 3, Touché) by Freeman on Friday October 11 2019, @01:35PM (2 children)

      by Freeman (732) on Friday October 11 2019, @01:35PM (#905720) Journal

      When you say, you couldn't care less, you actually could. Since, you cared enough to say it.

      --
      Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
      • (Score: 3, Touché) by maxwell demon on Friday October 11 2019, @01:45PM

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Friday October 11 2019, @01:45PM (#905726) Journal

        I can care about the fact that a subject is brought up, despite not caring about the subject itself. And indeed, when saying that I couldn't care less about a subject, I tell that I do care about it being brought up, because I think it shouldn't have been brought up, because I do not care about the subject (and believe that others share my disinterest in it).

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        The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday October 11 2019, @02:15PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 11 2019, @02:15PM (#905754) Journal

        When you say you couldn't care less, then your care is at absolute zero. So it is not possible to remove any care, just as you cannot remove photons from absolute dark, or remove heat from absolute zero kelvin, or remove intelligence from the . . . uh, nevermind.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @02:48PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @02:48PM (#905779)

      It isn't amazing, just look at all those reading examples where words are misspelled but people read the sentence just fine. In this case it is a common phrase people know means "I don't give a shit" and they don't catch that the individual words may be wrong.

      Stop taking the amazing thing which is the human brain for granite.

      • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Friday October 11 2019, @04:58PM

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Friday October 11 2019, @04:58PM (#905891) Journal

        You are confusing production with consumption.

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        The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    • (Score: 2) by Coward, Anonymous on Saturday October 12 2019, @09:18AM

      by Coward, Anonymous (7017) on Saturday October 12 2019, @09:18AM (#906273) Journal

      I've heard so many complaints about "I could care less" vs. "I couldn't care less" and incorrect uses that now I have to stop and think before I say the phrase, or whenever I hear it. It used to be natural (and correct). The Overton window has bifurcated, and I have to squint with my brain to get a hold of the right meaning.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:18PM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:18PM (#905711)

    I hate it when (even otherwise intelligent) people say "nucular". Why, oh, why...
    It's "nucleus", not "nuculus", numbnuts!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @01:33PM (#905718)

      Nuclear is also valid... depending your field of research. Or you're a cell biologist that uses radiology... in that case both.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @03:09PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @03:09PM (#905804)

      Why so serious?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @03:44PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @03:44PM (#905836)

      You mean numnuts? Or is it knumnuts?

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 11 2019, @04:17PM (1 child)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 11 2019, @04:17PM (#905861) Journal

        The silent "K". I've often amused myself by pronouncing it, just to see how people would react. Try it sometime - k-nife instead of nife.

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        “I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
        • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Friday October 11 2019, @05:26PM

          by MostCynical (2589) on Friday October 11 2019, @05:26PM (#905911) Journal

          Then you'd sound a bit like the people in Chaucer [harvard.edu], speaking Middle English [vimeo.com]

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      • (Score: 1) by VacuumTube on Friday October 11 2019, @10:49PM

        by VacuumTube (7693) on Friday October 11 2019, @10:49PM (#906084) Journal

        gnumnuts

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @03:46PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @03:46PM (#905838)

      I hate it when (even otherwise intelligent) people say "nucular". Why, oh, why...
      It's "nucleus", not "nuculus", numbnuts!

      And in the same vein, people who pronounce kilometre "kuh-LAW-mitr". It's not "sen-TIM-mitr" or "mil-LIM-mitr" or "dess-SIM-mitr". Kilo is a prefix. The base word is metre. KILL-o-metre. It's not rocket science.

      And don't get me started on people (hello, Audible readers!) who pronounce foyer as "FOY-uhr". Gah! "FOH-yay". It's surprising how many books that word appears in, but you really notice it when the readers continually mispronounce it.

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @04:19PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @04:19PM (#905862)

        A foyer is for fogays.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @08:36PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @08:36PM (#906034)
    • (Score: 2) by Coward, Anonymous on Saturday October 12 2019, @09:22AM (2 children)

      by Coward, Anonymous (7017) on Saturday October 12 2019, @09:22AM (#906274) Journal

      It's because George W. Bush, who could order nuclear Armageddon, said "nucular". He had a certain authority in the matter.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 12 2019, @11:01AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 12 2019, @11:01AM (#906299)

        Good ol' Dubya... Never thought I'd be thinking back on him fondly...

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 12 2019, @11:24AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 12 2019, @11:24AM (#906302)

          How many multi-trillion-dollar wars has Orange Man started?

  • (Score: 2) by xorsyst on Friday October 11 2019, @01:24PM (14 children)

    by xorsyst (1372) on Friday October 11 2019, @01:24PM (#905713)

    "mute" point seems to be quite commonly written, presumably because in American English it's pronounced the same as "moot".

    • (Score: 2) by Chocolate on Friday October 11 2019, @01:35PM (4 children)

      by Chocolate (8044) on Friday October 11 2019, @01:35PM (#905721) Journal

      It's a moo point.

      --
      Bit-choco-coin anyone?
      • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Friday October 11 2019, @01:39PM (2 children)

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Friday October 11 2019, @01:39PM (#905722) Journal

        Are you sure it isn't a mu [wikipedia.org] point?

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        The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @02:02PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @02:02PM (#905737)

          No, a mutt Pointer-Setter.

        • (Score: 2) by Chocolate on Saturday October 12 2019, @09:50AM

          by Chocolate (8044) on Saturday October 12 2019, @09:50AM (#906284) Journal

          Joey: All right, Rach. The big question is, "does he like you?" All right? Because if he doesn't like you, this is all a moo point.
          Rachel: Huh. A moo point?
          Joey: Yeah, it's like a cow's opinion. It just doesn't matter. It's moo.

          --
          Bit-choco-coin anyone?
      • (Score: 5, Funny) by DannyB on Friday October 11 2019, @02:16PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 11 2019, @02:16PM (#905755) Journal

        It's a moo point only if you're an Anonymous Cow Herd.

        --
        Why is it so difficult to break a heroine addiction?
    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Friday October 11 2019, @01:43PM (4 children)

      by Freeman (732) on Friday October 11 2019, @01:43PM (#905725) Journal

      No, it's not pronounced the same.
      https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mute [merriam-webster.com] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/moot [merriam-webster.com]

      Click on the wound icon for each word. That will pronounce each word for you.

      Most of the time when I make spelling errors, it's due to a lack of sleep.

      I'll leave these gems for your brain to process:
      Cincha's up, be a doll 'ngit me a bud.
      Yunta go t'da mall?

      --
      Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Friday October 11 2019, @01:46PM (2 children)

        by Freeman (732) on Friday October 11 2019, @01:46PM (#905727) Journal

        ... my brain must be going off the rails ... sound icon not wound icon

        --
        Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @04:21PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @04:21PM (#905864)

          my brain must be going off the rails"

          you probably got on the crazy train, instead of the last train to nowhere

        • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Friday October 11 2019, @05:09PM

          by maxwell demon (1608) on Friday October 11 2019, @05:09PM (#905898) Journal

          Derailing can cause both sounds and wounds.

          --
          The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
      • (Score: 2) by xorsyst on Friday October 11 2019, @01:52PM

        by xorsyst (1372) on Friday October 11 2019, @01:52PM (#905730)

        Well blow me down, I appear to have assumed too much from hearing Americans pronounce words like Duke and New.

    • (Score: 2) by gtomorrow on Friday October 11 2019, @02:09PM (2 children)

      by gtomorrow (2230) on Friday October 11 2019, @02:09PM (#905746)

      because in American English it's pronounced the same as "moot".

      WHAT??? Since when, my malinformed, non-American-English speaking friend?

      "Mute" rhymes with "cute" while "moot" rhymes with "boot"...on both sides of the Atlantic!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @04:22PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @04:22PM (#905866)

        Yes, but, how 'bout the Pacific?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 12 2019, @03:47AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 12 2019, @03:47AM (#906213)

          Are you referring to the Specific Ocean?

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @07:22PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @07:22PM (#905998)

      "mute" point seems to be quite commonly written, presumably because in American English it's pronounced the same as "moot".

      Huh? What you talkin' 'bout, Willis?

      mute == ˈmyüt
      moor == ˈmüt

      Not so much, unless you're looking at the myoon mutate.
      Or if you're moving the mooseum.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by canopic jug on Friday October 11 2019, @01:39PM (8 children)

    by canopic jug (3949) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 11 2019, @01:39PM (#905723) Journal

    "loose" vs "lose" I see those confused all the time even by well educated people.

    --
    Money is not free speech. Elections should not be auctions.
    • (Score: 2) by xorsyst on Friday October 11 2019, @01:56PM

      by xorsyst (1372) on Friday October 11 2019, @01:56PM (#905733)

      I grew up in a village spelt "Loose" but pronounced "Lose". I think this was mostly caused by people trying to sound posh, but also because they didn't want to say they were members of the Loose Women's Institute.

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday October 11 2019, @01:59PM (2 children)

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday October 11 2019, @01:59PM (#905734) Journal

      You beat me to it. When people write they are about to "loose their mind" I ask, "Was your mind too tight before?" When someone writes, "That woman is a looser," I ask, "Why, does she sleep with more men than average?"

      --
      Washington DC delenda est.
      • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @05:33PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @05:33PM (#905916)

        When people write they are about to "loose their mind" I ask, "Was your mind too tight before?"

        Loose can also mean "free" or "release", as in "loose the hounds!". Maybe those people are just informing you that they're about to drop acid.

        • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday October 11 2019, @06:08PM

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday October 11 2019, @06:08PM (#905949) Journal

          Maybe those people are just informing you that they're about to drop acid.

          Thank you! I never thought of that one before.

          --
          Washington DC delenda est.
    • (Score: 2) by loonycyborg on Friday October 11 2019, @05:34PM (3 children)

      by loonycyborg (6905) on Friday October 11 2019, @05:34PM (#905917)

      Bullshit like this is what made English what it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift [wikipedia.org] . To prevent such silliness English speakers should use Latin letters to mean the same they meant in actual Latin: "a" should always mean a single sound "a" and not some dumb diphthong like IPA "ei" or other unrelated sound IPA "ɛ" etc.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @05:47PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @05:47PM (#905932)

        Have you ever heard a Spanish TTS reading english? Now think how a literal transcription would be written.

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @07:26PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 11 2019, @07:26PM (#906002)

        Bullshit like this is what made English what it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift [wikipedia.org] [wikipedia.org] . To prevent such silliness English speakers should use Latin letters to mean the same they meant in actual Latin: "a" should always mean a single sound "a" and not some dumb diphthong like IPA "ei" or other unrelated sound IPA "ɛ" etc.

        Mr. Clemens [guidetogrammar.org] would probably agree:

        A PLAN FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF ENGLISH SPELLING
        For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet.

        The only kase in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later.

        Year 2 might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all.

        Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants.

        Bai iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli.

        Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 12 2019, @08:45AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 12 2019, @08:45AM (#906265)

        Let's start with something simple. Say… S, C, K, and Q.

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