https://www.itwire.com/open-source/jonathan-carter-wins-race-to-lead-debian-for-next-year.html
South African developer Jonathan Carter will be the leader of the Debian GNU/Linux project for the next year, after he defeated the two other contenders in the race, according to the results which were declared on Sunday.
Carter was up against Sruthi Chandran, who was bidding to become the first female leader of the project, and Brian Gupta, a member of the project for the last seven years.
Carter had cited the need for better publicity, getting more feedback to ease up issues that contributors faced and better visibility and transparency about funds received and how they were spent in his election platform.
[...] Debian is one of the few free software projects that holds elections. It has done so since it was set up in 1993 by the late Ian Murdock.
(Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 20 2020, @09:58PM (8 children)
... because he promised to feed Poettering to the cannibal pygmies or crocodiles. That's the sort of localization that will add value to Debian.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 20 2020, @10:01PM
Jonathan Carter of Mars.
(Score: 5, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Monday April 20 2020, @10:19PM (1 child)
You really don't like either the pygmies, or the crocs, do you?
(Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday April 21 2020, @01:53PM
Unfortunately, the most likely outcome is that Poettering sees them circling him and says. OH THIS STRATEGY IS SO PREDICTABLE AND NAIVE, HERE LET ME CODE FOR YOU A BETTER ONE. They will fall for it (some will insist on that, as they are paid by Soros), and while they start eating dirt and rocks because of WONTFIX issues permeating the new strategy, Poettering will leave for new projects.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 20 2020, @10:25PM (3 children)
Elections? I thought it was going to be done Thunderdome style.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 20 2020, @11:46PM (2 children)
Carrousel... for a chance at renewal.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21 2020, @02:32AM (1 child)
I wish someone would make palm crystals. I so wanted to have a flashing red one on my palm the day I retired. Sure, only one other guy where I worked would have gotten the joke, but it still would have been worth it.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday April 21 2020, @01:48PM
I want one of those "Pop-fizz" guns: aim it all you want, you ain't hitting nothing but wall all day long.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 3, Funny) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday April 21 2020, @02:30AM
I'd prefer John Carter of Mars, but if all we can get is a South African I guess he'll have to do.
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 20 2020, @10:29PM (7 children)
In fancier form with their platforms, nominations, graphs, charts, and more: https://www.debian.org/vote/2020/vote_001 [debian.org]
(Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 20 2020, @11:01PM (5 children)
Option 1 "Jonathan Carter" and make systemd mandatory
Option 2 "Sruthi Chandran" and make systemd mandatory
Option 3 "Brian Gupta" and make systemd mandatory
Option 4 "None Of The Above" and make systemd mandatory
Democracy, Debian-style.
(Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21 2020, @01:03AM (4 children)
(Score: 3, Touché) by Gaaark on Tuesday April 21 2020, @01:55PM (3 children)
Option one: Old senile pedophile and #NeverSanders
Option two: Orange guy, small hands...smells of cabbages and #NeverSanders
Option three: Bring back #NeverHillary if we really need to so long as #NeverSanders
Option four: Blow up America, but #NeverSanders
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Thexalon on Tuesday April 21 2020, @02:27PM
It's not just Sanders: The fairly well-documented efforts to undermine Elizabeth Warren happened for more-or-less the same reasons, namely she had a chance of winning and considered taxing rich people to be an acceptable way of funding government programs. And the "Washington consensus" is that taxing poor people and middle class people is just fine, but taxing rich people is off limits, because totally coincidentally nearly all candidates from nearly all parties get their campaign cash from rich people.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21 2020, @05:51PM (1 child)
You Bernie Bros are as bad as the MAGA crowd. If it doesn't turn out the way you want, the system was obviously and deliberately stacked against your guy! And not only stacked against by regular folk, but by some sort of nebulous "deep Democrat" system.
This is just the humble opinion of this moderate unaffiliated voter, but I am not too unhappy that we aren't going to have to face the choice of the cult of personality from the left vs. the cult of personality from the right.
Believe it or not, but some of us moderates ACTUALLY WANT A MODERATE this time around, especially one who can be the grownup in the room and not yell down opposing views. We don't want to gamble that your guy can beat the idiot in charge, and we sure as hell don't need a "revolution."
How the hell were you looking at the primary results? Once all the moderate candidates but one dropped out, a tidal wave of votes went to Biden. This isn't some stupid "power elite" move that kept your boy or Warren out, this is the bulk of the party saying we don't want Trump 2.0, because that is what you'd get if it was Trump v. Sanders.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21 2020, @07:43PM
lol know they audience dipshit, the person you're responding to is a canadian libertarian I believe
If you would pay attention to the news coverage and the investigations of such you would find out that the media made a coordinated effort to block out Sanders. In 2016 the DNC literally stole the primary votes using super delegates. They even went so far as to color Bernie's face red in news shows to make him look more angry and unhinged.
So you can fuck right off with your ignorant "muh centrism" bullshit. I will be voting Biden to get Trump the fuck out, but you should really do your homework before spouting off like an ignorant boomer. Also, tone trolling because you don't like that someone is mad about something? The fuck is wrong with you? Get over yourself.
If you don't suport Universal Healthcare then you're just a conservative that has come around to admitting Trump is trash. How you like them stereotapples?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21 2020, @12:22AM
<sarcasm>This is outright racism and pandering to the hard right! Every big company has an Indian at the helm! Linux needs them too!</sarcasm>
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 20 2020, @10:40PM (2 children)
"Carter had cited the need for better publicity"
Yeah, that's what Debian needs. Right.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 20 2020, @10:50PM (1 child)
You can read his platform, but they are probably referencing the ideas about attracting contributors as well as promoting the Debian system and Free Software.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Bot on Tuesday April 21 2020, @01:59PM
I suggest a course of action.
Slogan: Debian, the universal operating system, by Software in the public interest.
Program: Debian, the universal operating system, by Software in the public interest.
Action: apt-get purge --foreverandever systemd # uh remember to redirect objections and criticism to /dev/evil/redhat
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(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 20 2020, @11:08PM (7 children)
Carter's platform is that he wants to improve the developer experience and make it easier to recruit and retain contributors.
Gupta's platform was focused on improving the project's finances and business relationships.
Chandran's platform was that she's a woman.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21 2020, @12:27AM (5 children)
<sarcasm>Chandran should have won. Everyone knows that woman are under represented in IT. We need more women! Now! The vote must be invalided! Perhaps people did not realise Chandran was female. Perhaps male misogyny has deprived this person of a chance to be one of the leaders of the world! There must be a reason she did not get in! Poll manipulation! Neutrons passing through the brains of voters caused their fingers to slip! Sometime! We must fix this! Revote! Revote! Revote!</sarcasm>
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21 2020, @01:00AM (2 children)
it was Russian hackers
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21 2020, @02:52AM (1 child)
Sigh, no, that was last year. It's coronavurysthis year
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21 2020, @07:49AM
TDS much?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21 2020, @05:34PM (1 child)
Years later and only you dummies are still going on about it. Get over it she lost!
We can skip the simple fact that you're also ignoring reality for the sake of your joke, facing the consequences for your choices apparently went out of style for conservatives in 2016. At least with these lockdown protests some of you will be forced to face at least some minor inconveniences, bittersweet result for the rest of us who don't want to spread it
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21 2020, @06:12PM
>Years later and only you dummies are still going on about it.
For some strange reason, Libtards never actually listen to what their own leaders are saying. The person complaining loudest about Hillary is Hillary.
She wrote books on it. They didn't sell at all, but she still got millions of dollars in book advance money. She did a press tour about it. She won't go away. Her fellow Libtards in the media keep pushing her. Time just did a special masturbatory fantasy front page fiction on what the country would be like had she won.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21 2020, @02:01AM
Here is Carter campaigning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs [youtube.com]
After this, they chanted, "system-DEE! system-DEE! system-DEE! system-DEE!..."
(Score: 2) by Snotnose on Tuesday April 21 2020, @12:42AM (5 children)
I read the prior comments and still wonder, where did the nominees stand on systemd?
I don't run Debian so I'm not up on their systemd stance. I think they went systemd a couple years ago but, as I said, I don't follow it.
Don't take this as pro or con on systemd, I'm just curious.
When the dust settled America realized it was saved by a porn star.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday April 21 2020, @07:05AM (2 children)
Debian ships with systemd, hence, all the scrambling by those of us who wanted to get away from systemd. After the fact of converting Debian to systemd, they made some noise about "what do we want to do about systemd", which translates into "how can we shove systemd down their throats and up their asses at the same time?" There is no option at installation time to choose an init system.
(Score: 5, Informative) by Thexalon on Tuesday April 21 2020, @02:31PM (1 child)
And thus, Devuan [devuan.org] was born.
My understanding is that there have been regular accusations to this day, years later, that Debian's vote to adopt systemd in the first place was subject to some illegitimate shenanigans from the pro-systemd people. Given that when the change happened I managed to render a systemd box unbootable via the simple act of cold-unplugging a mouse, I'm pretty sure the decision was not made primarily on technical grounds.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday April 22 2020, @04:50PM
>Given that when the change happened I managed to render a systemd box unbootable via the simple act of cold-unplugging a mouse
those were the days! BTW my jessie beta would not boot at all, mouse or no mouse.
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(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21 2020, @07:21AM
Here is what Runaway is talking about:
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=19/12/10/020237 [soylentnews.org]
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=19/12/29/1237233 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday April 21 2020, @03:12PM
> where did the nominees stand on systemd?
There is only one possible topology. They stand below.
Systemd über alles, ergo alles unter systemd.
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(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21 2020, @07:06PM
Remember Debian, the Universal Operating System, with many architectures and different kernels, supporting other spin-off distributions and daring to disagree with upstream? Debian bent over (default desktop dependencies, world-and-dog-shim-that-started-as-init, even browser independence by not being bound by trademarks)... yet the benders do not care and just want to replace them completly. And Debian will happily bend more, instead of focusing in the problems.
"$PROJECT is a community of people working together to build a free and open source software platform and to collaborate on and share user-focused solutions built on that platform." Virtual cookie for the one to figures $PROJECT.
Debian does not need publicity, but independence and integrity. When they claim "Our priorities are our users and free software" it should not be like "the user should be in control of their computing" claimed by $PROJECT: empty words.
If Debian keeps on as they are, they should not expect to recover any ground but slide more into irrelevance. Oh, wait, another demostration that now Debian is about the packagers, not the users. [debian.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21 2020, @10:38PM (2 children)
Based upon what I've read of the incident(s), I don't believe Ian Murdock committed suicide.
I think someone wanted him out of the way.
Canonical will likely fall for M$ and quickly be bought out and scuttled.
Debian has been a beacon of light for Linux users and Devs for a long time. I predict
that, if not already, a former or current M$ spy will spin the project into shit and thus
so will end Debian.
There are a number of strange deaths and suicides in the open source community,
usually very interesting characters who refuse to sell out to LE/TPTB/Corps.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday April 22 2020, @05:10PM (1 child)
I agree. He did appear to be shell shocked by the advent of Trump or something, but that doesn't explain anything, especially because millions of other progressives felt the same.
If there are guys who spend money to have trolls infesting some open souce games or usenet forums with a population of barely 500 users (I witnessed that), there are guys who can commission a hit to seize control of a distribution numbering millions of users and influencing other millions. I can't prove it happened, nobody can prove it didn't, so it's a matter of opinions.
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(Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday April 22 2020, @05:15PM
Correction, it wasn't Trump. They actually persecuted him.
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