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posted by janrinok on Tuesday May 23 2023, @07:20AM   Printer-friendly

China's cyberspace regulator said on Sunday that products made by U.S. memory chip manufacturer Micron Technology had failed its network security review and that it would bar operators of key infrastructure from procuring from the firm:

The decision, announced amid a dispute over chip technology between Washington and Beijing, could include sectors ranging from transport to finance, according to China's broad definition of critical information infrastructure.

"The review found that Micron's products have serious network security risks, which pose significant security risks to China's critical information infrastructure supply chain, affecting China's national security," the Cyberspace Administration of China (CAC) said in a statement.

[...] U.S. officials, including members of a U.S. congressional select committee on competition with China, did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Micron derives around 10% of its revenue from China, but it is not clear if the decision affects the company's sales to non-Chinese customers in the country.

Also at The Register, MarketWatch and ABC News.

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US chip makers hit by new China export rule:

Nvidia says the US government requires a new licence, effective immediately, to address the risk of chips being "used in, or diverted to a 'military end use'... in China and Russia".

There are fears the rule could lead to millions of dollars in lost revenue.

Shares of both chipmakers slipped in after-hours trading in New York.

Nvidia's shares were down by 6.6% while AMD slipped 3.7%.

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No GPUs for you: US blocks sales of AI chips to China and Russia:

In a Securities and Exchange Commission filing last Friday, Nvidia reported that US government officials have ordered restrictions on sales of its top AI chips to China and Russia. The new restrictions (in the form of licensing requirements, subject to approval by the US government) include the powerful A100 Tensor Core GPU, the upcoming H100, and any chips of equivalent power or systems that incorporate them. The goal is to "address the risk that the covered products may be used in, or diverted to, a 'military end use' or 'military end user' in China and Russia," according to Nvidia, which notes that the firm already does not sell products to customers in Russia.

Reuters reports that the Department of Commerce intends for the new policy to "keep advanced technologies out of the wrong hands." China isn't happy about the restrictions, calling the move part of a "tech blockade." The US has also restricted sales of AMD's MI250 Accelerator AI chip to China. Whether this effort will have any effect on China's AI capability in the long term remains to be seen, as Chinese firms have begun developing their own GPUs for graphics and AI use.


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Netherlands refuses to summarily agree to US export restrictions on China over silicon chips.:

The United States of America has requested a number of countries in Europe and Asia to impose sanctions on Chinese chip manufacturing firms. One of these, the Netherlands, has come out and put a statement saying that they will not summarily accept new US restrictions on exporting chip-making technology to China, and is consulting with European and Asian allies.

The Dutch Trade Minister Liesje Schreinemacher on Sunday said that he expects the Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte to discuss export policy with President Joe Biden when Prime Minister Rutte visits the US.

In effect though, the Netherlands has stopped ASML Holding from shipping its most advanced machines to China and is only allowing them to sell machinery and technology that were made before 2019.

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US Restrictions See China's Chip Imports Plummet 27% in First Two Months of 2023

The sanctions are having a huge impact:

[...] According to China's General Administration of Customs data published Tuesday (via The South China Morning Post), the country imported 67.6 billion integrated circuits (IC) in January and February. That's down 26.5% from the same period last year, and higher than the 15.3% fall recorded for the entirety of 2022.

The total value of these imports also declined, from $68.8 billion last year to $47.8 billion, a drop of 30.5%. That's partly due to chip prices that have fallen due to oversupply and the general economic downturn.

China's IC exports also fell in the first two months, down 20.9% to 37.3 billion units, while the total value of the exports dropped 25.8%.

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October's restrictions on chipmaking tools from the Bureau of Industry and Security were some of the harshest, designed to cap China's logic chips at the 14-nanometre node, DRAM at 18nm, and 3D NAND flash at 128 layers. The US has also prohibited AMD and Nvidia from selling some of its high-performance AI-focused GPUs to China, including team green's A100 GPUs.


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  • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Tuesday May 23 2023, @09:17AM (4 children)

    by RamiK (1813) on Tuesday May 23 2023, @09:17AM (#1307624)

    It was pretty obvious China will ban American memory after Yangtze Memory Technologies (YMTC) and ChangXin Memory Technologies (CXMT) were banned by the US. The real problem is that China probably just shorted the hell out of Micron and walked away with a fine bounty. So, assuming they did and that the trend will continue, I can't imagine the US could just continue doing business as usual without putting up laws that limit foreign investments like China does. This will, of course, weaken the value of the dollar so... Hmm... Yeah. Really shouldn't have poked that pooh panda...

    p.s. Just realized why the protagonist from Kung Fu Panda is called Po...

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    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday May 23 2023, @11:53AM (1 child)

      by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Tuesday May 23 2023, @11:53AM (#1307631) Journal

      Patel's other point – that China can find alternatives to Micron products – is also well made. Memory is not hard to find, and global production is increasing.

      Memory is also a field in which Chinese firms are well advanced: local champion YMTC is rated as a strong competitor for the likes of Samsung, SK hynix … and of course Micron.

      Beijing has therefore barred one supplier of a commodity it can easily access from elsewhere, and done so after finding a risk so mild it is happy for that supplier's products to remain in use.

      Memory is cheap right now. Too cheap [soylentnews.org], according to the companies selling it.

      U.S. companies will continue debasing themselves to get into the Chinese market.

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      • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Tuesday May 23 2023, @03:30PM

        by RamiK (1813) on Tuesday May 23 2023, @03:30PM (#1307692)

        U.S. companies will continue debasing themselves to get into the Chinese market.

        Or they'll get bailed out like Intel. Time will say.

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday May 23 2023, @12:39PM (1 child)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 23 2023, @12:39PM (#1307638) Journal

      The real problem is that China probably just shorted the hell out of Micron and walked away with a fine bounty.

      Only if you don't treat such market manipulation as information leakage. And there are plenty of workarounds for a foreign investment restriction. For example, having a native figurehead for your foreign investments or simply not holding onto investments for any length of time.

      • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Tuesday May 23 2023, @03:15PM

        by RamiK (1813) on Tuesday May 23 2023, @03:15PM (#1307688)

        treat such market manipulation as information leakage...

        It's not insider's trade when people believe/know and act on what a goverment is about to do. In fact, goverment owned and/or funded companies and/or the goverment themselves can buy stocks in various markets directly. e.g. It's fairly common with pension funds to invest in various securities and such...

        there are plenty of workarounds for a foreign investment restriction...

        Worked great for Softbank and ARM China...

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