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posted by takyon on Friday October 02 2020, @05:25AM   Printer-friendly
from the very-busy-contact-tracers dept.

[20201002_054327 UTC: Added c|net link and quote.--martyb]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1311892190680014849

Tonight, @FLOTUS and I tested positive for COVID-19. We will begin our quarantine and recovery process immediately. We will get through this TOGETHER!

A report from c|net adds:

White House physician Dr. Sean Conley said in a memorandum late Thursday that the president and first lady were "both well at this time, and they plan to remain at home within the White House during their convalescence."

The announcement of the president and first lady's positive coronavirus test results came just hours after the revelation that top White House aide Hope Hicks had tested positive for the virus as well. The president indicated in an earlier tweet that he and the first lady had begun the quarantine process.

Hope Hicks, who has been working so hard without even taking a small break, has just tested positive for Covid 19. Terrible! The First Lady and I are waiting for our test results. In the meantime, we will begin our quarantine process!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 2, 2020

President Donald Trump tweets he and first lady Melania Trump test positive for Covid-19

Trump tests positive for COVID-19 after his adviser and confidant Hope Hicks tested positive for the coronavirus

c0lo adds: Dow futures plunge more than 500 points after Trump says he tested positive for coronavirus


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  • (Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @05:28AM (49 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @05:28AM (#1059710)

    and haw-haw

    • (Score: 2) by SpockLogic on Friday October 02 2020, @11:58AM (13 children)

      by SpockLogic (2762) on Friday October 02 2020, @11:58AM (#1059832)

      Hope he gets the full Covid experience, wouldn't want him to miss anything.

      Old and morbidly obese, mmmmm ....

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      Overreacting is one thing, sticking your head up your ass hoping the problem goes away is another - edIII
      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @01:17PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @01:17PM (#1059861)

        https://i.redd.it/p3mqx91n3oq51.jpg [i.redd.it]

        Liberals get played again.

      • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Friday October 02 2020, @01:48PM (1 child)

        by HiThere (866) on Friday October 02 2020, @01:48PM (#1059876) Journal

        No. I hope he lives through it. And refuses to resign as a candidate. And gets declared incapacitated around January 1. Bonus points if Pence also turns out to be infected and is also declared incapacitated one day later. (And was too sick to do anything while acting pres.)

        Otherwise things get a bit dicier than I prefer. (As a bonus he'll then get to experience the after effects.)

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        • (Score: 2) by SpockLogic on Friday October 02 2020, @10:05PM

          by SpockLogic (2762) on Friday October 02 2020, @10:05PM (#1060136)

          I didn't say I want hm to die, I don't. A quick death would be much too good for him. I want him to have a long painful illness and become a "long-hauler".

          --
          Overreacting is one thing, sticking your head up your ass hoping the problem goes away is another - edIII
      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Tork on Friday October 02 2020, @02:42PM (6 children)

        by Tork (3914) on Friday October 02 2020, @02:42PM (#1059905)
        My fear is that he'll be asymptomatic and think COVID is a big load of nothing, thus reopening to tragic results.
        --
        Slashdolt Logic: "24 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
        • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @07:19PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @07:19PM (#1060056)

          what a stupid bitch. it doesn't matter how deadly a disease is. the fucking government has not rightful authority to close anything except their own buildings. something you slaves and bootlickers are going to find out the hard way, evidently.

        • (Score: 2) by black6host on Friday October 02 2020, @11:09PM

          by black6host (3827) on Friday October 02 2020, @11:09PM (#1060159) Journal

          Even if he's really sick do you think we'll be told? No. If he lives then it will be "I survived it, twas nothing but a scratch..." I don't wish death on him but I do hope it takes him out of the race. Of course he'll say he wants a do-over because he wasn't well enough to campaign but that's just Trump being Trump.

        • (Score: 2) by crafoo on Friday October 02 2020, @11:15PM (1 child)

          by crafoo (6639) on Friday October 02 2020, @11:15PM (#1060163)

          All the actual data shows it is a big load of nothing. You would know this if you were not blinded by your political partisanship. Which, I might add, is making me lose respect for quite a few people in this thread.

          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Tork on Saturday October 03 2020, @12:32AM

            by Tork (3914) on Saturday October 03 2020, @12:32AM (#1060191)
            Facebook memes are not "data".
            --
            Slashdolt Logic: "24 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Remmy on Friday October 02 2020, @03:29PM

        by Remmy (4050) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @03:29PM (#1059929)

        And low income group, another risk factor.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @06:53AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @06:53AM (#1060265)

        Facts matter. Trump is NOT morbidly obese.

        https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/may/19/nancy-pelosi/no-he-not-morbidly-obese/ [politifact.com]

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @11:00AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @11:00AM (#1060287)

          But he is morally obese. Fat fuck of a fucking difference that it is . Fat fucker, getting fat on loans? Mortally obese, most likely.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 02 2020, @01:12PM (34 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @01:12PM (#1059859) Homepage Journal

      https://www.zerohedge.com/political/i-hope-they-die-trumps-critics-celebrate-news-covid-19-diagnosis [zerohedge.com]

      "I Hope They Die" - Trump's Critics Celebrate News Of COVID-19 Diagnosis
      Update (0845ET): It was only a matter of time before somebody pointed out Twitter's hypocrisy as the social media platform has left thousands of tweets wishing death on the president standing.

      Many are blatant violations of Twitter's terms of service.

      * * *

      As we mentioned earlier, President Trump's tweet announcing his and First Lady Melania Trump's COVID-19 diagnosis was his most liked, and most shared, tweet ever, according to analytics shared by Axios.

      The tweet, which was sent at 12:54 am on Friday, chalked up record tallies while most of America was asleep, meaning it will likely be remembered as Trump's most popular tweet ever. Judging by the reaction in the polls seen when the leaders of Canada and Great Britain came down with COVID-19, a diagnosis actually could help improve Trump's popularity by making him more sympathetic.

      Of course, Trump's political opponents are fixated on Trump's distaste for social distancing norms. Though President Trump and Joe Biden notably didn't shake hands at the outset of the debate, Trump defended his decision to continue holding large rallies on the campaign trail, and also mocked Biden for wearing a mask every time he appears on TV. Those clips have been playing in a non-stop loop across cable news.

      Self-styled "journalists" and "politicians" tweeted crude jokes, or even went so far as to claim they were praying for both the president and First Lady to succumb to their infections.

      --
      "no more than 8 bullets in a round" - Joe Biden
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @01:22PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @01:22PM (#1059868)

        Those could be hate-likes and hate-shares.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Tork on Friday October 02 2020, @03:09PM (23 children)

        by Tork (3914) on Friday October 02 2020, @03:09PM (#1059918)
        I do whole-heartedly agree with you that wishing for his demise is totally beneath the character put forth by the people you're criticizing. In simpler terms: It's deplorable behaviour, it's wrong and for those who believe in it it's karma-booby-trap.

        However, if you really do wanna pursue this then I recommend you be fully prepared to do a lot of pedantic splitting of hairs over things like 'just desserts'. Some of it you'll be able to rightly identify as 'hate', but a lot of it is just going to be his own words thrown back at him. Personally I think you're gonna have trouble sorting that all out, seeing as how he's a victim of his own decisions that have cost a number of people in this country so much.

        I have a friend who is burying his mother this week, he has immediate family members who have been rather noisy on the 'freedumb-mask' front leading right up to her passing. I haven't seen him make a remark like you're talking about but if he does I will not be the one to shout "hypocrite!!!" at him.
        --
        Slashdolt Logic: "24 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @03:38PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @03:38PM (#1059933)

          I do whole-heartedly agree with you that wishing for his demise is totally beneath the character put forth by the people you're criticizing.

          Being a liberal, I can see how you'd write that. However, observing liberals' hateful attitudes and behaviours, especially over the past 4 years, I'm quite stunned when a liberal voices concern and well-wishes for Trump, as many have. May just be PR on their parts; it's certainly out of character.

          I have some thoughts for you: some people will listen and heed warnings; others don't, gamble, and lose. Some die from their indiscretion. Some get hurt and learn. Some who survive are emboldened and commit even more foolish acts.

          That Trump (et al) is infected is sobering to many. Hopefully most will learn and be more careful and cautious.

          I for one hope Trump apologizes for being cavalier about COVID, and makes some big changes.

          • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @03:40PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @03:40PM (#1059938)

            However, observing liberals' hateful attitudes and behaviours, especially over the past 4 years, I'm quite stunned when a liberal voices concern and well-wishes for Trump, as many have. May just be PR on their parts; it's certainly out of character.

            Bear in mind that the news places you listen to also told you Obama was going to take all your guns and a bunch of other things that never happened.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @04:12AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @04:12AM (#1060246)

            I for one hope Trump apologizes for being cavalier about COVID, and makes some big changes.

            He won't make big changes until he's evicted from the white house.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @11:02AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @11:02AM (#1060288)

              Thank goodness we have a moratorium on evictions until the Covid-19 has passed. But not on Fumigations.

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @04:11PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @04:11PM (#1059946)

          I prefer Presidents who don't get sick and die of the sniffles. That's just me though.

          I prefer heroic stories about defeating an omnipotent secret enemy that's everywhere but you can't see them. Illegal voters, the deep state, maurading antifa soliders.

        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 02 2020, @04:47PM (3 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @04:47PM (#1059972) Homepage Journal

          However, if you really do wanna pursue this

          Nahhh, to much bother, really. But I can hope that there really is such a thing as karma, and "just desserts" and so on. There is a lot of hatred out there.

          +1 insightful, for being the voice of reason.

          --
          "no more than 8 bullets in a round" - Joe Biden
          • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @05:06PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @05:06PM (#1059986)

            Hummmm

            I seem to recall the RBG thread being full of conservaive hatred and vitriol. Yes, I surely do hope there is such as thing as karma.

          • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @09:16PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @09:16PM (#1060109)

            I hate you, Runaway! I hate you soooo much, and long time, too! I hate you in a Zoo, I hate you full of poo! I hate you in your Truck, and I don't give a fuck! I hate you when you post, I hate you when you're toast! I hate you in a boot, you are one nasty old coot! I hate you in a box, when you are dead of pox! I hate your combed-over hair, I hate your derrière! I hate your right-wing slant, I hate your racist cant. I hate you, Runaway, it should be clear, so now please go away and do not stay near!

            • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @10:46PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @10:46PM (#1060146)

              The odds of recovering from COVID-19 are much better than the odds of recovering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

              — Damani Felder (@TheDamaniFelder) October 2, 2020

        • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday October 02 2020, @05:58PM (13 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @05:58PM (#1060016) Journal

          Please, Runaway is a tone-trolling lunatic. Just look at the shit he constantly posts. He's a classic example of Jesus' "whited sepulcher" and somewhere down in that shriveled-up little pulsating mass of gristle he calls a heart he KNOWS it, so he's always super-quick to pounce on peoples' tone and damn the content or nuance. Or y'know, the just deserts you mentioned.

          --
          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
          • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 02 2020, @06:31PM (11 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @06:31PM (#1060034) Homepage Journal

            You lose on the sepulcher bullshit. I don't claim any virtues beyond being a hard headed asshole. Reality is, the people you cheer for are a greater danger to society and this country than all the corruption that the Donald can muster.

            --
            "no more than 8 bullets in a round" - Joe Biden
            • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @07:25PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @07:25PM (#1060061)

              So more FUD from your propaganda networks. So unbelievably insane.

            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Tork on Friday October 02 2020, @07:40PM (8 children)

              by Tork (3914) on Friday October 02 2020, @07:40PM (#1060069)

              Reality is, the people you cheer for are a greater danger to society and this country than all the corruption that the Donald can muster.

              What reality are you talking about that's worse than the Trump Administration's brazen sabotage of our electoral system? Oh... and why is that being largely ignored by the right? I grew up in a conservative area and my entire school-life was about how great checks and balances were and how the right to vote was so important that not voting is like killing a soldier's kitten. Hopefully with that in mind you understand my complete and total confusion at the lack of attention on this matter, it should not be a partisan thing at all.

              --
              Slashdolt Logic: "24 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
              • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 02 2020, @09:03PM (7 children)

                by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @09:03PM (#1060100) Homepage Journal

                I've seen far more headlines detailing Dem attempts to rig elections, than I have seen Rep attempts.

                At the moment, the governor of Texas is being taken to task for demanding that ballots may only be deposited in a single place in each county, which is unreasonable.

                There are half dozen instances of ballot harvesting by Democrats, with Ilhan Omar being the primary highly visible culprit. Then, there are the cases like Pennsylvania, where ballots were discarded unlawfully. It isn't clear which "side" was at fault, but those particular ballots were for Trump.

                The whole fiasco with the USPS still seems a storm in a teacup to me. Even accepting that the new head of the USPS is a fuckwit, his directives never threatened the ability of the post office could deliver the mail. Much ado about nothing, there.

                --
                "no more than 8 bullets in a round" - Joe Biden
                • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @09:25PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @09:25PM (#1060112)

                  I've seen far more headlines detailing Dem attempts to rig elections, than I have seen Rep attempts.

                  Headlines, you fucking moron! Reports, untrue, biased, fake-news propaganda. Not actual cases. All the arrests have been Republican operatives, your favorite lying sack of shit and convicted Felon, James O'Keefe, Shannon Brown in Texas [abc13.com], Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman [nytimes.com], Leslie McCrae Dowless in North Carolina [reuters.com], just for some examples. Actual legal action, prosecution, for breaking the law and trying to cheat. You are really, really stupid, Runaway, if you see headlines like you claim. Are you hanging out in bad internet neighborhoods? Andrew Brietbarf is dead. John Birch was never alive. Jim Crow was not a real person. And Herman Cain thanks you for attending the Tulsa rally.

                • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @09:38PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @09:38PM (#1060120)

                  Your opinion needs to be adjusted by some facts.

                  I've seen far more headlines detailing Dem attempts to rig elections, than I have seen Rep attempts

                  Observer bias. Sorry. Independents have pretty strongly confirmed this for the last 20 years. I don't know about 70s, 80s, 90s, or earlier.

                  There are half dozen instances of ballot harvesting by Democrats

                  Citation from a reputable news source that stands to lose if they print falsehoods, please?

                  the new head of the USPS is a fuckwit, his directives never threatened the ability of the post office could deliver the mail.

                  I'm afraid both insider experts and direct evidence contradict this.

                  USPS insiders (managers and workers and execs) have said his directives will reduce the ability of the post office to deliver mail.

                  Or look at the tangible evidence of mail counting machines - which were in working order, and which would take many many human workers to replace - which were destroyed.

                  There are other less flashy examples.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @10:26PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @10:26PM (#1060140)

                  Buncha man babies you conservatives. Fake news guzzling morons. Astonishing assholes that have never been wiped once. Detailing out your depravity and stupidity would be a monumental undertaking.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @02:37AM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @02:37AM (#1060216)

                    Shut up and suck a bloody snatch. You never add anything to a conversation.

                • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @03:10AM (2 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @03:10AM (#1060224)

                  Turn off the Nazi ministry of information aka Fox News, and find more reliable sources (preferably ones outside the country that do not rely on advertising).

                  The Republicans have been attacking the right to vote for decades, and recently with a vengeance.

                  Millions were disenfranchised in the last presidential election by Republicans stealing their right to vote. Stupid shit like challenging David M. Gonzalez voting multiple times because there was a David S Gonzalez 3 states over, and a David R Gonzalez on the other coast. They only challenged "ethnic" sounding names. Complete bullshit. Closing voting places in minority urban areas, so poor folks will get discouraged by the line winding around the block, and give up-- Republicans assume that their base are rich folks, and rural white racists, so won't be hurt by these closings. The latest chicanery of the Republican Party is to try to reduce the number of people who can vote at all by fucking with the US Postal service. The Republican Party have decided that the fewer people that vote, the better for them. But, all the while the Republicans are stealing elections, they keep pointing everywhere else and *falsely* claiming election fraud.

                  Seriously, do some fact checking. You will find that *everything* you hear on Fox / from the Republican Party members is a lie. And, only most of what you hear from that other shitty party, the Democrats, is a lie.

                  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 03 2020, @03:32AM (1 child)

                    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 03 2020, @03:32AM (#1060230) Homepage Journal

                    Fox news - Fox news - Fox news - on - and - fucking - on - you - go. (you plural)

                    You people see the sources for the stories I submit. I don't use Fox. Oh, Fox is in my newsfeed, just like Alternet is. I just keep adding RSS feeds to the reader. Quick count - 114 different sources right now. I scroll through them, and very rarely click either Fox or Alternet. But they are there, if I see something really interesting, I'll click.

                    Now, how many news sources to YOU have? Two? Six? More?

                    Point is, Fox isn't the only damned news source in the world that you might find objectionable. And, no one cares if you might be "offended" by the news. Don't like the facts I post? Counter them. Find the facts and post them. Sometimes, an AC posts interesting stuff that does seem to counter my facts.

                    Wanna know what I do when people cite sources that counter my own? I generally add that source to my news feed.

                    Stop whining, learn to argue your position, and stop whining. One more time, stop whining.

                    --
                    "no more than 8 bullets in a round" - Joe Biden
                    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @11:07AM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @11:07AM (#1060292)

                      Fuck you, Runaway. We don't care about your sources, because YOU are a stupid uneducated asshole. See? You would not know a reliable source if your Russian paymasters pointed you at one! You are too dumb to recognize truth. You are so stupid you will fall for right-wing agitprop and disinformation. You really should just shut the fuck up, and stop spewing on SoylentNews. If you kill this site, there will be nowhere on the internet for you to go, since you have been banned from everywhere for being such an asshole, even the comment section of Fox News, as I recall you saying. Shut up, asshole, or we will make you shut up! Coward! Weakling (intellectually and morally, and probably physically). And nincompoop.

            • (Score: 4, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday October 03 2020, @01:20AM

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 03 2020, @01:20AM (#1060204) Journal

              Yeah, all those horrible Danes and Finns and Swedes and Norwegians and their Communist universal healthcare. And the Canadians! Their Timbits are already encroaching on God's holy Dunkin Donuts marketshare as we speak!

              Fuck off, you senile deranged old coprolith.

              --
              I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
          • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 04 2020, @06:51AM

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      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Friday October 02 2020, @04:32PM (1 child)

        by Thexalon (636) on Friday October 02 2020, @04:32PM (#1059961)

        Given that the president has shown a complete disregard for everybody else's life, it's only to be expected that other people show a complete disregard for his.

        Otherwise, your take sounds an awful lot like a guy who punches and kicks someone and steals their lunch money on the playground, and when their target calls them an "asshole" goes to the teacher and says "Hey, he said a bad word!"

        --
        The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @08:01PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @08:01PM (#1060079)

          Otherwise, your take sounds an awful lot like a guy who punches and kicks someone and steals their lunch money on the playground, and when their target calls them an "asshole" goes to the teacher and says "Hey, he said a bad word!"

          So in other words typical Republican behavior.

      • (Score: 2) by srobert on Friday October 02 2020, @04:53PM (4 children)

        by srobert (4803) on Friday October 02 2020, @04:53PM (#1059975)

        The comment has been modded as Flamebait. But there's some validity to the observation. For the record I'm a card carrying Bernie supporting progressive, who will probably vote Green. But I do not wish death on the President. I hope he and his family recover. If I thought voting for Trump would end the pandemic, I'd do it. Still, there's probably an underlying hint of schadenfreude because of the cavalier attitude Trump has taken regarding the pandemic. I hope this reverses that in him and among his followers. Wear a Goddamned mask, you idiots.
        My wife, on the other hand, she's not a progressive. She's a card carrying, blue no-matter who liberal, who voted for Clinton and Biden in Nevada caucuses. She can't stop laughing about Trump having Covid and has openly wished him dead. We'll have been married for 33 years come Halloween. She suddenly seems a bit ghoulish. But it is what it is.

        • (Score: 1, Redundant) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 02 2020, @05:02PM (3 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @05:02PM (#1059980) Homepage Journal

          Still, there's probably an underlying hint of schadenfreude because of the cavalier attitude Trump has taken regarding the pandemic.

          There is that. And, I have to admit that I share in it, to some degree. We've all seen the headlines when some famous person is struck with Covid, and it has been cool when people chuckle, or offer up an "I told you so."

          So far, I haven't even heard an "I told you so" from my extended family and acquaintances.

          --
          "no more than 8 bullets in a round" - Joe Biden
          • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @06:24PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @06:24PM (#1060027)

            Hope you don't catch COVID from all that Trump cock you keep sucking.

            • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @06:28PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @06:28PM (#1060032)

              You need to get tested too. I hear it can be injected up your ass as well!

              • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @08:24PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @08:24PM (#1060088)

                For buttplay I prefer at least average sized tools. Trump's mushroom dick would probably just tickle. You should stay away from matches, wall outlets, mildly steep ramps, etc.

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @08:05PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @08:05PM (#1060080)

        Assuming that the loudmouths and blowhards on Twitter speak for most people is dumber than usual for you.

        Good show. Keep up the good work!

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @08:11PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @08:11PM (#1060083)

        Pot meet kettle

        He also claimed Cruz’s dad was involved in the Kennedy assassination.

        What makes this all the worse is that Ted Cruz basically ruined his wife’s life by becoming a senator. She had a thriving career in DC and she was forced to give it up. It drove her into a deep state of depression as Cruz’s campaign was forced to admit. The cops found her disoriented and sitting with her head in her hands on the side of a busy Texas interstate. The cop on the scene felt she was a danger to herself. So, he let Trump insult the woman who gave up her own aspirations to support his dreams.

        By the way, do you know how we found out about this very sad and private tale ten years after it happened? Trump’s campaign released it to tabloids when they were feuding. He threatened to “spill the beans” about Heidi Cruz and so he did. So, Trump called her ugly and weaponized her suicidal ideation in a political campaign but Ted Cruz licks is taint. I would say Heidi Cruz should cut Ted’s balls off but, based on his behavior, she’d have to settle for stealing them from Trump’s desk.

        Hedging your bets by saying Trumo is an idiot as you do everyrhing you can to prop him up around here is.. disgusting. I can't wait to out this travesty behind us so Republicans can go back to pretending they are decent human beings.

  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @05:31AM (99 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @05:31AM (#1059711)

    We get rejected story submissions all the time, yet you editors are able to push out this bullshit on the spot?

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by takyon on Friday October 02 2020, @05:33AM (9 children)

      by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Friday October 02 2020, @05:33AM (#1059713) Journal

      Your question is invalid.

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      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @05:42AM (8 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @05:42AM (#1059721)

        So sorry for calling out your blatant bias :|

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by takyon on Friday October 02 2020, @05:43AM (7 children)

          by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Friday October 02 2020, @05:43AM (#1059723) Journal

          Where's the bias? Where's the bullshit?

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          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @05:57AM (6 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @05:57AM (#1059727)

            Hardly breaking news. Hope always "brought the machine" to Trump, so no surprise. Good thing he brought her back, even after the terrible things she did. I Hope Trump has health insurance. What is the fatality rate among Slovenian fashion models, of a certain age, anyway? And who subbed this crap?

            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by khallow on Friday October 02 2020, @01:14PM (5 children)

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @01:14PM (#1059860) Journal
              And yet you still can't make your case, third time in a row. Trump getting COVID 19 is news. We'll see if those drugs he was pushing work for him.
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @04:31PM (4 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @04:31PM (#1059960)

                That last reply was not me, but good try. There is no point going down the rabbit hole of lame excuses, I made my point and ibviously no one else cares. Yes this is news, no I don't have a MASSIVE problem with it except for the stories that do get rejected while lame shit like this can be thrown on the front page at any moment.

                • (Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Friday October 02 2020, @07:50PM (3 children)

                  by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Friday October 02 2020, @07:50PM (#1060075) Journal

                  It didn't displace any stories (it was slotted in between two of them without changing their release times) and you can choose not to click on it. You could use an RSS reader that displays headlines only to make that easier for you, instead of using the front page.

                  This lame shit, which is the #1 story globally, is an obvious containment zone for comments that would otherwise spill over into other stories. I heard about the news ~20 minutes after it broke, so I pushed it out immediately.

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                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @08:34PM (1 child)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @08:34PM (#1060090)

                    Ah yes, we the community must depend on what you editors deem acceptable. I've had numerous submissions of ourely science/tech stories fade into the voud while boring shit with no comments gets published. That doesn't even touch the censorship here of any story regarding the rightwing corrultion, or how tech is used to target and radicalize people.

                    So whatever, I'm just sad seeing this place slowly crumble into a salt&pepper chanboard. Not quite there yet, but not far off.

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @10:50PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @10:50PM (#1060148)

                      Wouldn't you enjoy chasing a car more than reading and posting here? Go on, boy, go fetch!

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @09:41PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @09:41PM (#1060124)

                    Thanks, Tak. I gotcha. Better to keep the oil change in a catchment pan than to have it run everywhere along the concrete, staining other surfaces.

                    To use a car analogy.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @05:36AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @05:36AM (#1059718)

      oh noes! fearless leader is in trouble! the alt man children would have to kill themselves if dear leader died from dempanic

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @06:08AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @06:08AM (#1059737)

        *Featherless leader.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @03:03PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @03:03PM (#1059914)

          Feckless Leader

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @03:41PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @03:41PM (#1059939)

            Feckless

            "You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means."

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @04:12PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @04:12PM (#1059947)

              Don't-give-a-fuck-less.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by martyb on Friday October 02 2020, @06:20AM (71 children)

      by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @06:20AM (#1059749) Journal

      We get rejected story submissions all the time, yet you editors are able to push out this bullshit on the spot?

      When the commander-in-chief of the largest and most powerful military force in the world comes down with a contagious disease that it potentially debilitating or even fatal?

      Yeah, I'd say that's breaking news.

      Further, I have watched a parent struggle with (and ultimately lose their battle) Acute respiratory distress syndrome [wikipedia.org]. Its symptoms were very much like COVID-19. Exhausted all the time due to lack of oxygen making it through the body. Struggling to breathe. On a ventilator, so can't talk. Going back and forth from the ICU (Intensive Care Unit) and the CCU (Critical Care Unit -- 24/7 coverage by a health professional). I am no fan of Trump, but I would not wish that on anyone.

      I remember a time when the president of the US being ill or injured was a time when the country pulled together in support. (e.g. Kennedy: assassination; Nixon: phlebitis; Ford: assassination attempts)

      In the meantime, you can be absolutely certain that the leaders of other countries are paying very close attention to this development. Unlikely, but should the disease progress to the point that Trump is debilitated (he *is* in his 70s and obese) -- that means VP Mike Pence becomes President. He also has responsibility for the "nuclear football".

      My biggest fear is that he comes down with a mild case and claims his experience is representative of all cases. If he came down with a major case, spent time in the hospital on a ventilator, and adopted (and encouraged) mask wearing -- that could do so much to help stem the tide of this pandemic.

      In a nutshell, this IS a big deal.

      Want to help the editorial staff? Send an e-mail to martyb (at) soylentnews (dot) org if you are interested. Pay is $0.00 per day on weekdays; double that on weekends. Plus all the criticism you could ever hope for!

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      • (Score: 5, Funny) by DECbot on Friday October 02 2020, @06:59AM

        by DECbot (832) on Friday October 02 2020, @06:59AM (#1059765) Journal

        Want to help the editorial staff? Send an e-mail to martyb (at) soylentnews (dot) org if you are interested. Pay is $0.00 per day on weekdays; double that on weekends. Plus all the criticism you could ever hope for!

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      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by FatPhil on Friday October 02 2020, @08:39AM (5 children)

        by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Friday October 02 2020, @08:39AM (#1059789) Homepage
        Plus the fact that *4* submissions were made regarding that story (and there's been another couple of follow-on stories already subbed since) should be a clear indication that the members of the SN community that consider it worth subbing stories do consider this an important story (and it's clearly a "breaking" one by definition, thus warranting the fast track). AC should blame the community, not the eds.
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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @05:09PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @05:09PM (#1059987)

          I wouldn't really care except that perfectly fine submissions are rejected quite frequently, and someone catching COVID is hardly urgent news even if it is the president.

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by PiMuNu on Friday October 02 2020, @09:31AM (39 children)

        by PiMuNu (3823) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @09:31AM (#1059797)

        Sorry to hear about your story.

        As you say - Trump's politics are sleazy, but nonetheless he is a human being; so hope he is okay.

        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DannyB on Friday October 02 2020, @12:53PM (36 children)

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @12:53PM (#1059851) Journal

          I can pray that maybe he will stop and think. Look beyond himself. See others. Repent. Consider eternal things and not be so caught up in only the things of this world.

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          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by PiMuNu on Friday October 02 2020, @01:03PM

            by PiMuNu (3823) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @01:03PM (#1059855)

            Let's hope so.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @04:14PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @04:14PM (#1059948)

            This has to be one of the funniest posts I've ever read - thank you! #PrayingForDonald.

          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @04:16PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @04:16PM (#1059951)

            Thank you DannyB- best words I've heard in a very long time.

            This to you a thousandfold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp6aygmvzM4&t=68 [youtube.com]

          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday October 02 2020, @06:03PM (26 children)

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @06:03PM (#1060018) Journal

            Prayer does jack squat. Ask the children in Africa and India who starved to death praying to God (no, I am not taking about pagans here, I mean Christians).

            But, let me guess, God works in mysterious ways, so it's *totally fine* for him to make sure you get a parking space but let that little kid die in agony.

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            • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @03:18AM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @03:18AM (#1060226)

              I'd rather trust my prayer to God than to a cowardly "created being" like Satan and his band of merry losers.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @03:35AM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @03:35AM (#1060232)

                And how do you know it is not just exactly the other way around? I mean, LOOK at Mike Pence! He has demon minion written all over him. And the sex thing. So could it be, that you, as a really fucking stupid Christian, have fallen for the greatest trick that Satan ever pulled off? You are worshipping the Dark Side! If Evangelical support for Trump does not prove this, I know not what could. Joel Epstein, in the prison, with the toilet paper noose. Clue.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @04:09AM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @04:09AM (#1060245)

                  So could it be, that you, as a really fucking stupid Christian

                  There's that forked tongue!

                  I don't need a stupid master puppeteer who puppets his blinded by the white light (you've been ... thunderstruck! retarded song but aren't they all) beast imaged brained, red light, green light slaves.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @03:54AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @03:54AM (#1060242)

              You're more than welcome to join the millions of volunteer Satanists, (both the atheists and literal worshipers) who are filling the country every year, so many there's a waiting list!

              Oh wait, but that's not happening.

              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday October 03 2020, @10:49PM

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 03 2020, @10:49PM (#1060445) Journal

                Theistic Satanists are Doin' It Wrong (TM). As I understand it the entire point of Satanism is that it's a giant troll that suddenly turns deadly serious when it's time to test all those religious "freedom" laws.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 04 2020, @04:15AM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 04 2020, @04:15AM (#1060505)

              Prayer gives people hope. Not sure how that's a bad thing.

              Nope, God does not work in mysterious ways, you just have to really know Him to understand.

              • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Sunday October 04 2020, @07:27AM (2 children)

                by aristarchus (2645) on Sunday October 04 2020, @07:27AM (#1060603) Journal

                So that is why God gave Covid-19 to Trump, and to the whore of Washington, Hope? And Kellyanne? And Chris, oh, saw that one coming. Thanks be to God, who smites all those who attempt to pack the Supreme Court with Papists, and afflicts them with the Plague. Mark Twain's Patriot Prayer may be in order:

                “Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth into battle —
                  be Thou near them! With them — in spirit — we also go forth
                  from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe.

                  O Lord our God, help us tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells;
                  help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead;
                  help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain;
                  help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire;
                  help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief;
                  help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended
                  in the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames in summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it —

                For our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimmage,
                  make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet!

                We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love,
                  and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset
                  and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.

                https://warprayer.org/

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 08 2020, @03:57AM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 08 2020, @03:57AM (#1061986)

                  You have severe confusion between the Old Testament and the New. God doesn't "smite" people any more. They do it to themselves and each other. But you probably believe in a different God anyway.

                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday October 08 2020, @01:31PM

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 08 2020, @01:31PM (#1062067) Journal

                    Give me Old Testament Yahweh any day. He never even thought of torturing people for all eternity for not kissing his ass; he'd kill them, let them drop into lower Sheol, and fade away, wiped from existence. Ever since he had a kid he's been a complete whackaloon.

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            • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday October 05 2020, @02:49PM (15 children)

              by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 05 2020, @02:49PM (#1060973) Journal

              Prayer I wrote 20 years ago.

              Our father, who art in Redmond,
              Microsoft be thy name.
              Thy monopoly come,
              Thy will be done,
              Throughout the Earth as it is in the US.
              Give us this day,
              our daily license activation key.
              And forgive us our bug reports,
              as we forgive our system crashes.
              And lead us not into competition,
              but deliver us from innovation.
              For thine, is the control, and the power,
              and the greed, for ever.
              Amen.

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              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday October 05 2020, @03:02PM (14 children)

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 05 2020, @03:02PM (#1060976) Journal

                Not 250 years ago you could have been tortured slowly to death over a period of days with blunt, sharp, and red-hot instruments of pain for composing and publishing something like that. And all with the approval of your Church and its officials (and presumably your God).

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                • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday October 05 2020, @04:53PM (13 children)

                  by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 05 2020, @04:53PM (#1060995) Journal

                  With some churches, and their god, yes.

                  Definitely not with my God. And not with my church.

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                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday October 05 2020, @05:35PM (12 children)

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 05 2020, @05:35PM (#1061012) Journal

                    Sure, you lot just save it for after someone's dead, if they didn't kiss your God's ass enough/the right way/at all, and in that case it's *eternal* torture...despite the fact that that is *not* what the phrase "aionios kolasis" means or even CAN mean in Koine Greek and despite the fact that a good number of ante-Nicene Church fathers were Universalist or Annihilationist!

                    I'm never going to stop beating you upside the head over this. No finite being can do anything that deserves infinite punishment. It's literally not physically possible; it would require infinite time in which to do the crime and infinite power with which to carry it out. Any God that would even think of threatening its creations with this is a demon and anyone worshiping that God-figure is a devil-worshiper.

                    The biggest lie Lucifer ever told isn't that he doesn't exist: it's that God is just like him or worse.

                    For all that I keep telling people they're gonna burn (or fry, in the case of the fat ones...), I know the nature of Hell: it's self-made, self-generated, and by definition self-limiting. You don't have to agree with me there, but you DO owe it to yourself, your religion, and your God to understand what they *really* say. Brush up on your Koine, read your Origen, maybe peruse some sites like tentmaker.org, and do some soul-searching.

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                    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday October 05 2020, @05:54PM (10 children)

                      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 05 2020, @05:54PM (#1061017) Journal

                      Of the whoppers Lucifer told in Gen 3:4-5, the big two items that stick out are:

                      "You will not surely die", the serpent said to the woman. "For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

                      The two big things heard so often since then:
                      1. you will not surely die
                      2. you will be like God, or you will be God, or you are already God

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                      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday October 06 2020, @03:05PM (9 children)

                        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 06 2020, @03:05PM (#1061283) Journal

                        And indeed, they did not die on the spot, and "the man has become as one of Us, knowing good from evil." Genesis 3:22. Right. Fucking. There. In. The. Story. You. Are. Belching. At. Me.

                        Also, pop quiz, hotshot! HOW COULD ADAM AND EVE HAVE SINNED IF THEY BY DEFINITION COULDN'T KNOW GOOD FROM EVIL BEFORE THEY ATE THE FRUIT? Fuck me...this is juvenile. Please tell me you do not believe there were literally a literal Adam and a literal Eve, both of whom are the literal originating couple of the entire human race, the world over. The DNA says otherwise, we know population genetics can't produce a stable human population from such low diversity, and where, precisely, did Cain get his wife in that case...?

                        Also, the serpent wasn't originally said to be Satan or Lucifer, and Satan and Lucifer are not the same person: s[h]'t'n is more or less "accuser" in Semitic languages, and Lucifer is a reference to Nebuchadnezzar in the Book of Daniel.

                        Every single time you post something like this you reveal how little of your own religion you truly know. It's like your higher brain functions shut down and you start vomiting your own childhood indoctrination whenever someone pokes you in this one specific spot.

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                        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday October 06 2020, @03:13PM (8 children)

                          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 06 2020, @03:13PM (#1061286) Journal

                          This is pointless, but I'll point out two things.

                          They did die. Eventually. And humans have been dying ever since. (It is appointed unto man once to die, etc.)

                          They did know that God commanded not to eat of it. They had free will. They made a choice. You keep asking about evil . . . right there . . . in the story, that's where it starts.

                          That much said, I'm not going to get into a pointless and endless argument. I know it is very important to you that I should not believe. But I do.

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                          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday October 06 2020, @04:31PM (7 children)

                            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 06 2020, @04:31PM (#1061303) Journal

                            It's important to me that you act rationally and do not harm other people. The Abrahamic religions, *especially* Islam, are TERRIBLE for this. You're going to do and say and vote for things that harm people because you think the big angry beard in the sky is telling you to and will barbecue you alive for eternity if you don't.

                            I don't care precisely what you believe for its own sake; what happens in your skull is your business. It's when you interact with reality that we may have a problem. You can be a Christian (or a Jew, or a Muslim) and be a good person, but only by "serving two masters." Humanistic values are by definition incompatible with the Abrahamic faiths, and you're living a bizarre sort of bastardized twin half-truth as you are now.

                            Beyond this, your willful stonewalling ignorance is disgusting. You refuse to "get into a pointless and endless argument" as you put it, but you know very well the only reason it'd be pointless and endless is that you flat-out refuse to acknowledge reality. Anything I say that you don't like, even if I can point you to literal chapter and fucking verse, you just ignore and pretend I didn't say it. That's blasphemy, by the way, since according to your religion this is your own Scripture you're choosing to ignore.

                            You can keep this up as long as you live, but as I've been warning other people, there are no more illusions and no more excuses after death. You're in for an unpleasant surprise.

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                            • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday October 06 2020, @06:08PM (6 children)

                              by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 06 2020, @06:08PM (#1061337) Journal

                              I don't know what you think I am going to vote for that will harm people. I believe in trying to be like Jesus, who incidentally, had nothing but compassion for unbelievers. His only unkind words were for the religious leaders of his day. He lets them have it in Matt 23.

                              I get it. You don't believe in God. Or you want me to believe in a different god. It is unclear which. You've read something that you think would make me not believe. I can't make you believe in Jesus any more than you can make me not believe. I'm sorry you seem so upset about that.

                              I don't always act rationally. (some would point to the fact that I program in Java) Most people don't always act rationally, including yourself. You seem to have a very strong emotional reaction to the simple fact of my belief.

                              The reason an argument is pointless is because it isn't going anywhere. I doubt you will believe. And you won't make me not believe. So what point is there? You say I don't believe in reality. You warn I'm in for an unpleasant surprise after death, which implies you believe in an afterlife, which many would say is not reality.

                              I am not now, nor have I ever been upset that we disagree about this. I expect I will see you on SN and there will be topics we agree or disagree about. You are not the only person that I have some differences of opinion with here.

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                              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday October 07 2020, @04:49AM (5 children)

                                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 07 2020, @04:49AM (#1061520) Journal

                                You are willfully missing the point here: your religion (as well as Judaism and Islam) is harmful to humanity and both internally inconsistent and incompatible with observable reality. All axioms are destruct-tested by the theorems they give rise to, and all hypotheses falsified by contradictory observations. Your refusal to see that there *is* a contradiction (a tremendous number actually) does not make them disappear any more than, to borrow from CS Lewis, a lunatic can blow out the sun by writing "darkness" on his padded cell wall.

                                Yahweh is not God, because he does not meet the definition of what it is to *be* God, and no matter how many times this is explained to you, you plug your ears and pretend no one actually said anything, A being that is not God, but claims to be God, is a blasphemer. As Yahweh is presumably a spirit of some sort, and the word we usually use for evil spirit is "demon," it therefore follows that the Abrahamic religions are demon worship...which, you must admit, would explain one king hell mountain of a lot about their history *and* their present actions, as well as those of their partisans!

                                Also? Stop this "well well welly well well, *someone's* emotional!" bullshit. OF FUCKING COURSE I'd be "emotional" over someone who would for one moment even consider that a being who acts the way we are told Yahweh does in the Torah, Bible, and Quran was anything *but* some sort of evil demon.

                                Bluntly, it makes me suspect all your vaunted morals and ethics and humanity are a thin, hypocritical veneer over complete moral insanity, and that you're insulting my intelligence and that of every other person you run into. The most charitable explanation I've got is that you really, truly do not understand either your religion or humanistic morals, and are just bumbling along doing whatever feels good to you and clumsily justifying it with shallow, half-assed, ill-researched, completely un-Biblical appeals to Scripture.

                                That is fucking horrifying. YOU are fucking horrifying.

                                Why? Because among other things, it means there is no real basis to your morality. Of necessity, you must subscribe to divine command theory (don't bullshit me about "natural law morality," your God *made* natural law). Under DCT, there *are* no good or evil acts; there is only obeying God and disobeying God, which are 100% good and 100% evil respectively. All acts and decisions are shorn of all context and all connection with reality. Under DCT, if [you believe that...!] your God is telling you to go out and slaughter unbelievers, you go out there and slaughter some unbelievers, lest your God charbroil you alive for all eternity, world without end, amen.

                                Then there's the complete childish refusal to see the bleeding obvious flaws and paradoxes in your fundamental, bedrock beliefs. Listen closely: if the story of Adam and Eve is not literally true, if human souls to not ALL owe their ancestry to Adam and Eve, *the entire edifice of Christianity comes tumbling down.* Even the Catholics, who *say* they accept evolution, carved out a "special creation" exception for A&E because they understand this: no literal Adam and Eve, no Fall, no Original Sin, no need for this sadomasochistic snuff porn charade where your God tortures and kills his son, who is also kinda-sorta himself, to sacrifice him TO himself to stop himself from enforcing his own rules, which he arbitrarily created, but ONLY for people who tell his-son-who's-also-sorta-him telepathically that they'll worship him and accept his sacrifice...you know, that bad weekend he had?

                                All opinions are not equal. Ignorance does not trump knowledge. I know this is painful to hear, but it will accelerate your spiritual growth. You do not need to be an atheist (I'm not!), but you DO need to, as the book itself says, put away childish things.

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                                • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday October 07 2020, @01:56PM (3 children)

                                  by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 07 2020, @01:56PM (#1061604) Journal

                                  Like I said, I get it. My believe in a God who loved us enough to give his only son to save us, is deeply offensive to you. You reinforce that you hate God, or the God I believe in. Being Christian means I am obviously ignorant and a horrible person with no morals. I am clearly childish because I don't instantly drop my most deeply held beliefs at your say so. Like I said, I get it.

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                                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday October 07 2020, @11:53PM (2 children)

                                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 07 2020, @11:53PM (#1061913) Journal

                                    That's...that's just a temper tantrum. You're doing exactly the same thing a toddler in the high chair does when his mother tries to feed him carrot puree for the first time, complete with whining and squirming and shitting his britches.

                                    Quit your pathetic childish whining and LEARN SOMETHING. Your spiritual growth will not suffer; if anything it will accelerate massively. Your current state of mind is idolatry.

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                                    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday October 08 2020, @02:05PM (1 child)

                                      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 08 2020, @02:05PM (#1062080) Journal

                                      Body language doesn't come across. I was not angry or upset. I was completely calm writing that message, as I am when writing this message.

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                                      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday October 09 2020, @01:55AM

                                        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 09 2020, @01:55AM (#1062325) Journal

                                        Yeah, you went all the way out the other side into "shut it all down!" I could hear the hatches battening from here.

                                        Danny, the key to breaking you out of this crap is that *you are a better and more moral being than your God is.* Stop and ask yourself why this is so.

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                                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 08 2020, @04:12AM

                                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 08 2020, @04:12AM (#1061991)

                                  Oh My Gosh, preach it girl!! Have you written any books yet? You have such a gift of prophecy.

                                  I recently attended a memorial held at a mostly Black church, for a very dear long-time family friend, and your direct truth dovetails with the various pastors and teachers who spoke truth fervently.

                                  There's a ton of "toxic faith" and diluted Christianity out there. Certainly the work and influence of the enemy, but people open themselves and others to it trying to win brownie points rather than souls.

                                  That's all the preachin' I got in me tonight.

                    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 08 2020, @04:02AM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 08 2020, @04:02AM (#1061988)

                      (or fry, in the case of the fat ones...)

                      I can't stop laughing! Not at the insulting reference to overweight people, but that you of all liberal people would write such a thing. That's really funny. And it's comforting to know you're imperfectly human afterall. I might be in love.

          • (Score: 2) by SpockLogic on Friday October 02 2020, @09:54PM (2 children)

            by SpockLogic (2762) on Friday October 02 2020, @09:54PM (#1060132)

            Repent ?????

            If you think Trump is capable of repenting then it's time for you to go outside and watch the squadron of pigs about to fly by.

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            • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday October 05 2020, @05:19PM (1 child)

              by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 05 2020, @05:19PM (#1061005) Journal

              Trump can repent as soon as he can humble himself.

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              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 08 2020, @04:27AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 08 2020, @04:27AM (#1061995)

                The ego runs strong in this one (Trump). He might not live long enough.

                Pay his words no heed for they are fleeting like the wind.

                "A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion." Proverbs 18:2 (ESV)

                "Do you see a man who is hasty in his words? There is more hope for a fool than for him." Proverbs 29:20 (ESV)

                But remember the Bible speaks to ALL of us:

                "2 [a] Be not rash with your mouth, nor let your heart be hasty to utter a word before God, for God is in heaven and you are on earth. Therefore let your words be few." Ecclesiastes 5:2 (ESV)

                So even if you disagree with Trump, he may be part of God's plan (somehow). We can't alter God's plan, but we can make a mess of our own lives, and displease God with our harsh words and hatred and potentially lose blessings. It's better to love and pray for all people.

                Now I need to let my words be few.

          • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by crafoo on Friday October 02 2020, @11:23PM (2 children)

            by crafoo (6639) on Friday October 02 2020, @11:23PM (#1060168)

            Have you ever considered he does all of that and does care about people? He just doesn't value the same things you do.

            In fact, about half of the country does not have the same values as you. Look, I wish all of you communists that value equality over freedom would just go live in Venezuela but for some reason you all want to live in free market capitalist countries. It's a real puzzle.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @11:59PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @11:59PM (#1060181)

              Because I was born here, and don't have rich parents, it's pretty damn hard to get out before I'm old. Moving across the globe ain't cheap.

            • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @04:36AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @04:36AM (#1060252)

              Venezuela is closer to the U.S. than any sort of "communist" anything. Just another authoritarian with the same rule book as all the others. Pity you can't see it in your own dictator wannabe.

        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @11:02PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @11:02PM (#1060154)

          Trump is unusually good about keeping campaign promises. I think that's key to any determination of "sleazy". He's doing almost exactly what he was elected to do, whether you like it or not.

          The previous dude spied on Trump, using the powerful apparatus of the US federal government. He then tool numerous measured to impede the transition of power. That's really sleazy.

          • (Score: 2) by Mykl on Monday October 05 2020, @01:55AM

            by Mykl (1112) on Monday October 05 2020, @01:55AM (#1060850)

            He's doing almost exactly what he was elected to do, whether you like it or not

            Yeah, I particularly liked the size of that last Wall payment Mexico made, and the alternative, non Obamacare, health plan that the workers were signed up to.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @10:59AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @10:59AM (#1059825)

        Methinks the martyb protesteth to much! All that aristarchus suppression must be taking a tole, and he's about to pop like a Brad Pasquale? We all appreciate all the editors do, except pushing crap like this ahead of all other submissions. I seriously expected to hear about this from SoylentNews on Sunday, at the earliest.

        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @01:27PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @01:27PM (#1059869)

          It's not like you had a worthy sub in the queue, Aristarchus.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @03:37AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @03:37AM (#1060234)

            Who is this "aristarchus" of which you speak? Prithee, be more specific? What subs? Diesel-electric, or Nuke?

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @11:45AM (17 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @11:45AM (#1059830)

        I understand your position on this matter. But I think people are weary of the political toxicity on this site.

        I agree that acute respiratory distress syndrome is awful and that we shouldn't wish that on anyone. We should hope that everyone who becomes infected with SARS-CoV-2 will make a full recovery. Unfortunately, that sense of decency isn't shared by everyone on this site. Here are a couple of examples, including one specifically wishing for Trump to die from ARDS:

        https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?cid=968241&sid=36437 [soylentnews.org]
        https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=36703&page=1&cid=974300 [soylentnews.org]
        https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?cid=972219&sid=36569 [soylentnews.org]

        Yes, it would be good if leaders who dismiss COVID-19, then become infected with the virus, would start to take this matter seriously. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be happening.

        I get it, this is news, and it's very important. If Trump develops serious symptoms like Boris Johnson did, that'a a huge deal. It's also something that could swing the election, if there are concerns about Trump's health and ho he's going to recover from this virus.

        But I could do without the toxicity. While you are right on that we shouldn't be wishing the worst of COVID on anyone, not everyone shares your sentiment. And I could do without the toxic rhetoric that political stories can provide in the comments. There's too much of that in the world already.

        • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday October 02 2020, @12:01PM (16 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @12:01PM (#1059833) Journal

          How coincidental, all things I've said :)

          Have i triggered you, snowflake? Are you upset that the mean lady on the internet said nasty things about your orange Antichrist? Because if so...good. Feel free to join him when the time comes.

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          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by DannyB on Friday October 02 2020, @12:54PM (1 child)

            by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @12:54PM (#1059852) Journal

            I can at least pray for Trump even if I would never vote for him.

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            • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @04:15PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @04:15PM (#1059950)

              I'm going to cancel out your prayers with a Satanic incantation. Mwahhaa haha aha ahhaaaaaa.

          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 02 2020, @01:33PM (11 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @01:33PM (#1059872) Homepage Journal

            No coincidence at all. You rank as the most toxic person on this site, telling anyone who disagrees with you that they will burn in hell. Few if any are interested in your disingenuous disclaimers about hell being of your own making. Hell and damnation is your ongoing theme.

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            • (Score: 3, Touché) by Tork on Friday October 02 2020, @03:16PM (2 children)

              by Tork (3914) on Friday October 02 2020, @03:16PM (#1059922)

              No coincidence at all. You rank as the most toxic person on this site, telling anyone who disagrees with you that they will burn in hell

              Out of curiosity, Is Azuma the only person who says that to you? ;)

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              • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 02 2020, @04:52PM (1 child)

                by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @04:52PM (#1059974) Homepage Journal

                Uhhhmmmm, yes. Throughout my life, I've accumulated a small collection of "go to hells", at least half of those spoken in jest. I've heard preachers threatening hellfire on congregations if they didn't mend their ways. But I've never met ANYONE who throws around the hellfires like 'Zumi does.

                I think you were shooting at "funny", but there's your honest answer. ;^)

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                • (Score: 2) by Tork on Friday October 02 2020, @04:56PM

                  by Tork (3914) on Friday October 02 2020, @04:56PM (#1059976)
                  You are correct, I was shooting for funny. I feel like my count of people telling you off here is different from yours, but I'll concede it's not like I have a chart of it handy.
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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @04:36PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @04:36PM (#1059964)

              Burn in hell boomboom. You have had all the science in the world thrown at you yet you're still a bigot that works tirelessly to spread fake news. Stop it. The high road is much higher, you have only reached Hypocrisy Lane.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @09:38PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @09:38PM (#1060121)

                I will pray for Runaway, when he is in hell, having to face eternity realizing how stupid he was, how much he was used by smarter and less principled people than himself. He will never be able to get out, I think Dante has traitors on the ninth circle, but my prayers for him will be sincere. If only he had listened to his 'zumi!!

            • (Score: 2, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday October 02 2020, @06:05PM (5 children)

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @06:05PM (#1060019) Journal

              Oh cry harder, you tone-trolling little shitnugget. You're all about the surface and nothing about the substance. I don't care if you think my explanation of how Hell works is "disingenuous," you're still "going there" (see previous posts about how this isn't strictly accurate etc etc etc).

              If you hate it so bad, *leave.*

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              • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 02 2020, @06:26PM (4 children)

                by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 02 2020, @06:26PM (#1060031) Homepage Journal

                LMAO @ ZumZum

                No matter your opinion of me, no matter how much you hate, you will concede that I start some very intense conversations here. And, I contribute to a lot of others.

                And, you want ME to leave?

                Apparently you don't care whether the site succeeds, whether it lives and prospers.

                That makes me wonder why you even want to be a member of the staff. Is it control that you are hoping for?

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                • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @07:28PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @07:28PM (#1060064)

                  Posting rightwing bullshit is not constructive. You are a pox on this site. The small # of decent comments is far outweighed by your propaganda pushing.

                • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @08:41PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @08:41PM (#1060093)

                  No matter your opinion of me, no matter how much you hate, you will concede that I start some very intense conversations here. And, I contribute to a lot of others.

                  <rolls eyes>

                  Ummm, yeah. I guess that's one way of seeing it. The pure hubris is absolutely astounding. And galling.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @09:44PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @09:44PM (#1060126)

                  that I start some very intense conversations here.

                  THIS is what Runaway thinks he does here? Ha! Ha ha ha!

                  Ah Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!! Shut up, Runaway, you are making an ass out of yourself.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @07:17PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @07:17PM (#1060053)

            As the AC you replied to, I want to link you to my position on Trump and his administration: https://soylentnews.org/breakingnews/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=39845&page=1&cid=1060051 [soylentnews.org].

            I'll put it this way, if you like. Instead of dying in office, I want Trump to be voted out or impeached for crimes. I want him removed by means prescribed by the Constitution. Then I want him put on trial for his many crimes and human rights violations, and be forced to answer to everyone he's harmed. Trump's crimes and human rights violations are vast. I want him brought to justice. And all of those who are complicit in his crimes also need to be brought to justice.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @11:23PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @11:23PM (#1060167)

              I'll put it this way, if you like. Instead of dying in office, I want Trump to be voted out or impeached for crimes. I want him removed by means prescribed by the Constitution. Then I want him put on trial for his many crimes and human rights violations, and be forced to answer to everyone he's harmed. Trump's crimes and human rights violations are vast. I want him brought to justice. And all of those who are complicit in his crimes also need to be brought to justice.

              Ok, if you like it this way, go ahead.

              After which I want him to die. Of Covid. Before election. So hurry up, there's not much time left.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @07:23PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @07:23PM (#1060058)

        "and adopted (and encouraged) mask wearing -- that could do so much to help stem the tide of this pandemic."

        you're an idiot if you think people wearing surgical masks all week is doing anything.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @09:47PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @09:47PM (#1060129)

          you're an idiot if you think people wearing surgical masks all week is doing anything.

          And you are a greater idiot for thinking it is not. Go join your ignorant and selfish precedent, you fucking stupid Trumpie! May you die, alone, on a ventilator, with no ACA health insurance!!

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @03:23AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2020, @03:23AM (#1060228)

        I don't wish death on anyone either, but I think Trump burned so many bridges that there is no way that,

        > I remember a time when the president of the US being ill or injured was a time when the country pulled together in support. (e.g. Kennedy: assassination; Nixon: phlebitis; Ford: assassination attempts)

        ...will ever happen.

        The most good that can come of this would be if Trump had a bit of a rough time, and he and his supporters started taking the risk of COVID seriously. But, to wish that on even a horrible nasty person like Trump would make the wisher pretty terrible too. But, I fear if Trump sails through this, that it will only encourage more irresponsibility on his and his supporters parts.

        Damned if you have a conscious and you do wish harm, and damned if you don't wish harm as the body count in the US mounts.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @06:41AM (11 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @06:41AM (#1059756)

      We know this is going to be a comment magnet, with sparks flying when rabid anti-Trump users try to condemn him as getting just rewards for being an "unbeliever", while Trump supporters counter with unmasking their professed secular reasonability and exposing them as adherents of a modernized religion.

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @06:45AM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @06:45AM (#1059759)

        Oh, and of course wishes for his demise from "reasonable" democrats.

        • (Score: 5, Funny) by Tork on Friday October 02 2020, @07:49AM

          by Tork (3914) on Friday October 02 2020, @07:49AM (#1059778)

          Sir, you left your projector on. Wouldn't want you to have a dim bulb.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @08:51AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @08:51AM (#1059790)

          Oh, I'm not a Democrat, or religious, but I'm praying he croaks ASAP, have been since 2016.

          • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Friday October 02 2020, @01:54PM

            by HiThere (866) on Friday October 02 2020, @01:54PM (#1059881) Journal

            That's a bad idea. Better he just becomes incapacitated and refuses to admit it. And believes he's going to be better soon. And his supporters in congress believe that he's not incapacitated (at least until Pence is also clearly incapacitated).

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @10:57PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @10:57PM (#1060151)
        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @04:19PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @04:19PM (#1059953)

          I'll just leave this here: Tea Party Crowd Cheers Letting Uninsured Die [youtube.com]

      • (Score: 5, Informative) by Thexalon on Friday October 02 2020, @04:58PM (1 child)

        by Thexalon (636) on Friday October 02 2020, @04:58PM (#1059977)

        We're not mad at him that he's an "unbeliever". We're mad at him because he:
        - threw away the previous administration's pandemic response plans [vanityfair.com].
        - knew the gravity of the situation and lied about it to the public [youtube.com].
        - used the power of the federal government to steal necessary medical equipment from hospitals and states that tried to order it [latimes.com], an act that got some doctors and nurses as well as non-medical patients killed. (One of the doctors directly affected by this move was my sister, who was lucky enough to have access to backup equipment that was current in the 1940's or so.)
        - constantly contradicted his own medical experts [go.com], turning what should have been a non-partisan public health effort into a very partisan argument over whether you believe the president or people who actually know what they're talking about. Oh, which has also made the problem far bigger and last far longer than it should have.
        - took money allocated for small business loans, blocked oversight on where the money was going [politico.com], and redirected it to large businesses, some of which were his own [wsfa.com], causing thousands of small businesses to be forced to close.
        - shut down unemployment benefits for the roughly 40 million people laid off as a result of Covid-19 [washingtonpost.com], likely leading to millions of foreclosures and evictions [aspeninstitute.org]. Oh, which just makes the economic problems even worse, and also got more workers infected and/or killed.

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        • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @08:36PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @08:36PM (#1060091)

          - threw away the previous administration's pandemic response plans [vanityfair.com].

          He's the duly elected president. The nation gave him the power to revise government plans.

          - knew the gravity of the situation and lied about it to the public [youtube.com].

          He was advised and made his decision on what he thought best for the country. As elected politicians are supposed to do.

          - used the power of the federal government to steal necessary medical equipment from hospitals and states that tried to order it [latimes.com], an act that got some doctors and nurses as well as non-medical patients killed. (One of the doctors directly affected by this move was my sister, who was lucky enough to have access to backup equipment that was current in the 1940's or so.)

          The medical supplies went to where governors demonstrated a need to serve the greatest number of people. Like NYC. Of course, the need never materialized, but that is something you should take up with Cuomo.

          - constantly contradicted his own medical experts [go.com], turning what should have been a non-partisan public health effort into a very partisan argument over whether you believe the president or people who actually know what they're talking about. Oh, which has also made the problem far bigger and last far longer than it should have.

          We elect politicians to make decisions for us, not doctors with histories of sitting in their offices screwing up disease response for 30+ years.

          - took money allocated for small business loans, blocked oversight on where the money was going [politico.com], and redirected it to large businesses, some of which were his own [wsfa.com], causing thousands of small businesses to be forced to close.

          Businesses were forced to close due to state action. Large businesses having to lay off their employees can also have a disastrous effect on the local economy. Just remember Bush and Obama giving money to bail out banks and General Motors.

          - shut down unemployment benefits for the roughly 40 million people laid off as a result of Covid-19 [washingtonpost.com], likely leading to millions of foreclosures and evictions [aspeninstitute.org]. Oh, which just makes the economic problems even worse, and also got more workers infected and/or killed.

          State governments killing the economy for political purposes should not count on federal funding to bail them out for their bad decisions.

      • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @07:11PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @07:11PM (#1060051)

        I'm the AC you're replying to. I think civility is important and I think it crosses lines to wish something like ARDS on anyone. I'm not comfortable with it. It's a false dichotomy to assume that disavowing such rhetoric means I'm a Trump supporter.

        1) I'm going to vote for Joe Biden. I want Trump removed from office, either through the election or by impeaching him for his many crimes.

        2) Trump is a racist. He's a white supremacist. Racism and white supremacy are intrinsically evil and must ALWAYS be condemned without reservation. Full stop.

        3) Trump and his administration are responsible for an array of human rights violations. These include the atrocities in the ICE concentration camps and gassing protesters in Lafayette Square for Trump's photo op. Trump, Pence, and other top officials in the administration should be tried for crimes against humanity. I want to put the Trump administration on trial, either in federal court or using the precedent of the Nuremberg trials.

        4) It's very clear that the Trump family has engaged in a variety of fraud on a massive scale for decades. The complicit parties should be prosecuted and be forced to repay everyone they've defrauded.

        I'm not a defender of Trump. I want Trump removed from office by measures consistent with the Constitution, then for him to be brought ot justice for his many crimes.

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @07:26PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @07:26PM (#1060062)

          "Racism and white supremacy are intrinsically evil and must ALWAYS be condemned without reservation. Full stop."

          There's nothing wrong with "racism". The term was only invented by Jews to demonize any whites who try and resist the White Genocide they have been perpetrating for centuries.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @09:55PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 02 2020, @09:55PM (#1060133)

            Point made. Now somebody punch this fucking Nazi in the face. A kick to the gonads would also not be out of order.

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