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posted by martyb on Monday December 28 2020, @07:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the Hang-in-there dept.

Many sources are reporting that Trump finally signed the pandemic relief bill:

Not gonna summarize all the bits in it - it's some 5k pages of legalese gobbledygook, but I understand it continues augmented unemployment benefits, eviction suspension, funding to prevent government shutdown, and another direct cash payment.

I'm sure it also has a bunch of "porky pork", but the people are suffering, time is of essence, and it should have been done months ago.


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 28 2020, @07:46PM (53 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 28 2020, @07:46PM (#1092150) Journal

    There was more than enough stupid to go around with this bill. But, Trump outdid himself with this one. First, it was too much, then it was too little, then he would veto it, then he signed it. The art of the deal? Showmanship? WTF? Trump himself didn't seem to know what he wanted, or how to get it. Unless, he and Pelosi already agreed to this, but both of them were playing to their audiences.

    I'm left wondering if Trump is just as senile as Biden. And, Pelosi, for that matter.

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  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday December 28 2020, @08:06PM (1 child)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday December 28 2020, @08:06PM (#1092157) Journal

    Victory is a sure thing. The odds of losing are roughly 13 out of ~460, less than a 3% chance. Why would they act any different? Their supporters put them where they are.

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    La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
    • (Score: 2) by TheGratefulNet on Monday December 28 2020, @08:23PM

      by TheGratefulNet (659) on Monday December 28 2020, @08:23PM (#1092171)

      I hear the sound of abundance of pain,
      I hear the sound of VICTORY.

      (gags a bit, even typing that out)

      --
      "It is now safe to switch off your computer."
  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @08:16PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @08:16PM (#1092165)

    Senility. Everything he complained about was either not true, or it was stuff that he asked for in his budget request.

    The peons should feel very lucky that there is a high stakes runoff election going on right now, otherwise Moscow Mitch wouldn't have let ANY bill out. He began poisoning the economic recovery well for Biden right after it looked like Trump wouldn't win. That's why the House passed their bill months ago and the Senate did jack until the GA senators were getting beat up on the issue.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @10:56PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @10:56PM (#1092228)

      Yes, but then they were willing to do a deal and Pelosi decided that nothing was better than something and now we get even smaller scraps.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @05:40AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @05:40AM (#1092371)

        Because it was once again a pathetic excuse of relief for the average American while sending us further in debt with giveaways to corporations and churches that pocket the money and continue kicking their employees. Always the same bullshit with you rightwingers, hypocrisy and lies.

        #lovin'it

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Monday December 28 2020, @08:23PM

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday December 28 2020, @08:23PM (#1092172) Journal

    Pelosi is doing her job and trying to pass the bill you claim to want. [fortune.com]

    But I'm sure you'll blame Democrats when the Republicans block it.

  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @08:31PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @08:31PM (#1092173)

    Tribal jackass, at least the reality of what Trump is seems to be sinking into that TDS skull of yours.

    • (Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 28 2020, @08:38PM (3 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 28 2020, @08:38PM (#1092176) Journal

      Heh - and you're ready to admit that Pelosi and Establishment Joe are worse poison than Trump?

      Oh yeah - just read an interesting article on Bloomberg. The man spent over 200 million on this election. And, it seems he gained the party nothing. Dems lost seats almost everywhere, at the federal, state, and local levels. I'm anxiously awaiting the outcome of the senate runoffs in Georgia. Rs need one of those seats to cockblock Establishment Joe for the next two years.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @08:51PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @08:51PM (#1092183)

        Simple solution is one R, moves to independent (middle of aisle), then Mitch is cooked. Make it so you have permentant support.

        Say a nice R, is an area that wants more money for rockets (economy). Thats all it would take.

        Make his independent stance a new "party" called "America People Party". Watch the house crumple.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @09:22PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @09:22PM (#1092199)

          Simpler solution is to have them all covid test their coke like this guy: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LBmGvJAyhfs&feature=youtu.be [youtube.com]

          Then the ones who test positive (have acidic mucus apparently since it is always acidic fruits, soda, and the like testing positive) will recuse themselves from the vote.

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:45AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:45AM (#1092280)

        I don't need to do anything, my opinion on any of that is irrelevant because the point was that you couldn't bring yourself to criticize Trump without the emotional security blanket of blaming your sworn enemies.

        Keep that spine gelatinous little buddy! Tough personas are overrated.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by legont on Monday December 28 2020, @08:39PM (1 child)

    by legont (4179) on Monday December 28 2020, @08:39PM (#1092177)

    Our brave elected representatives were given 6 hours to study and make expert opinion on those 5000 pages; then vote for it or else. Democracy at it's best all right.

    --
    "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @03:59PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @03:59PM (#1092493)

      Pelosi and Munchkin have been working a long time on the deal, and the House bill has been sitting around for months, so it wasn't as bad as you imply. Anybody in Congress could have become familiar with most of what was in there if they had the desire, but I'm not confident that a lot of them bothered.

  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @08:53PM (19 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @08:53PM (#1092184)

    Trump has done so much good for the US and the world, world peace, in spite of what the left media says. After all Trump as been through with vicious lefty media attacks, the pandemic itself, rioting, significant doubts about election integrity, courts not willing to hear cases nor order investigations? I'd have resigned already, except for not wanting to dump it all on Pence.
     

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 28 2020, @09:21PM (18 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 28 2020, @09:21PM (#1092198) Journal

      Yeah, Trump has accomplished things that no R and no D ever had the balls to even try. He got Lil Kim from North Korea to sit down and talk, at least half seriously.

      I've spoken up for Trump when all the Squat Squads have tried to piss on him.

      But, that has little to do with this time. WTF was he trying to accomplish? Senile is a plausible explanation. He has recovered from COVID, maybe it affected his mind, and pushed him 'round the bend.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @09:27PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @09:27PM (#1092203)

        "[Trump] has recovered from COVID, maybe it affected his mind, and pushed him 'round the bend."

        He has been saying "turning the corner" for months, so...

        • (Score: 2) by SpockLogic on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:20AM

          by SpockLogic (2762) on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:20AM (#1092267)

          "[Trump] has recovered from COVID, maybe it affected his mind, and pushed him 'round the bend."

          He has been saying "turning the corner" for months, so...
          Reply to This

          If you keep turning the corner then you are going round in circles.

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      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Monday December 28 2020, @11:02PM (9 children)

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday December 28 2020, @11:02PM (#1092230) Journal

        1: I remember quite clearly the conservative freakout when Obama said he merely MIGHT talk to North Korea.
        2: Someone who is actually good at the Art of the Deal, like Obama, would have gotten something in return for the legitimacy you gain when you have a photo of you hanging out with a US President as a despot.
        3: I'm sure you would have been totally fine with a picture of Obama saluting a North Korean general had be been dumb enough to oblige.
        3: And after all that.....North Korea INCREASES their nuclear program. [nytimes.com]

        • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 28 2020, @11:26PM (8 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 28 2020, @11:26PM (#1092239) Journal

          Tell me about Obama, kneeling and kissing up to everyone around the world. A president doesn't bow, he shakes hands as an equal, thereby bestowing a favor upon whoever he is shaking hands with.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @09:15AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @09:15AM (#1092413)

            Now we see that your time in the Navy didn't lead to any cultural exposure, did you just sit on base except for the nights you got hammered and tried to nail some poor local who hoped to get a rich American hubby?

          • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday December 29 2020, @03:39PM (6 children)

            by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday December 29 2020, @03:39PM (#1092489) Journal

            You're right, a truly manly President CURTSIES!

            Donald Trump appears to 'curtsey' to Saudi king after mocking Barack Obama for bowing [independent.co.uk]

            • (Score: 3, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday December 29 2020, @04:08PM (5 children)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 29 2020, @04:08PM (#1092496) Journal

              So, squatting looks like a curtsey to the TDS crowd, got it. It would be more accurate to call it a bow, but the effeminate left felt the need to make Trump one of them by trying to make him look effeminate. Whatever.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @06:48PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @06:48PM (#1092557)

                "the effeminate left"

                Heh, you're taking Trump's loss awful hard huh? I'd offer you sympathy if you weren't a racist baby nazi.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30 2020, @05:10AM (3 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30 2020, @05:10AM (#1092765)

                You literally said in this thread "A president doesn't bow." Rather than the witty comeback you think this is by correcting "curtsy" to "bow," it just makes you look more of an idiot by admitting president's do bow, literally in this case.

                • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 30 2020, @05:27AM (2 children)

                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 30 2020, @05:27AM (#1092769) Journal

                  No, you're the idiot. Trump was receiving an award from a midget. He had to squat down for the short man to drape the necklace thing around his neck. FFS, you're really digging hard to prove that the Trump is as ignorant of protocols as Obama.

                  The president doesn't bow or curtsey to any foreign power. Ever. In fact, no member of the US armed forces ever bows to anyone, especially not in uniform. It isn't done.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30 2020, @07:22AM (1 child)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30 2020, @07:22AM (#1092793)

                    "It would be more accurate to call it a bow." or "The president doesn't bow." One or the other.

                    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 30 2020, @09:31AM

                      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 30 2020, @09:31AM (#1092800) Journal

                      Have you ever had a class in reading comprehension?

                      1. Curtsey is totally inaccurate.
                      2. Bow would be more accurate
                      3. but neither 1 or 2 is accurate.
                      4. Trump squatted to allow a short guy put an award around his neck.

                      Please, visit your community college and take some remedial reading classes.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @11:19PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @11:19PM (#1092237)

        > He got Lil Kim from North Korea to sit down and talk, at least half seriously.

        Dipshit - that was his leverage. Here take my leverage - now can you stop make nukes? No? Oh *sulks*

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:37AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:37AM (#1092276)

        Perhaps he was told he needed to sign, otherwise the election in Georgia would be in danger? Definitely not handled with great skill though.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @02:02AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @02:02AM (#1092313)

          Spoke too soon: Newsmax is reporting that the House has agreed to up the individual payments to $2k. If the House agrees, I think it should pass the Republican Senate.

      • (Score: 2) by canopic jug on Tuesday December 29 2020, @08:15AM

        by canopic jug (3949) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 29 2020, @08:15AM (#1092397) Journal

        [...] He got Lil Kim from North Korea to sit down and talk, at least half seriously.

        And all the while that talking went on the crazy fat kid played the stupid, fat, orange man like a violin. He advanced his illegal nuclear weapons program rapidly during that time. All the while he pretended to shut down the completed phases as a concession or tribute to the stupid, fat, orange man. Remember the early rounds of missile tests? Once that stage of missile testing was complete, he claimed to shut it down as a concession or tribute to the stupid, fat, orange man. Almost the same day, the plutonium-producing facilities started producing so much steam it could be seen in satellite images available to the public. etc. Same for Iran, though the interaction was more antagonistic on the surface. Both countries aim to use their newly acquired capabilities in offense as soon as they have enough of a stockpile for multiple strikes against key targets.

        [...] Senile is a plausible explanation.

        However,I think you're correct in that guess. Senility does explain a lot of the recent years' antics and utterances from the stupid, fat, orange man. SARS-CoV-2 is only like to make that worse. He has already had ministrokes, the virus can set him up for a more serious one (or two) if it works in old people like it does in younger ones.

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        Money is not free speech. Elections should not be auctions.
      • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday December 29 2020, @09:16AM (1 child)

        by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Tuesday December 29 2020, @09:16AM (#1092414) Homepage
        Rodman managed that in 2013, IIRC, and he was just a celeb, not anyone with any political cops. Hmmm, maybe Trump was just a celeb with no political chops too...

        Then again James Kelly went to NK in 2002, and Christopher Hill in 2007 too, it's not impossible to talk to North Korean dictators.
        --
        Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @02:54PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @02:54PM (#1092469)

          Also Rex Tillerson could have accomplished something good if he wasn't being sabotaged from his own government.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @11:16PM (19 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @11:16PM (#1092234)

    Congrats for spotting the con man - 4 years too late, asshat.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 28 2020, @11:29PM (18 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 28 2020, @11:29PM (#1092240) Journal

      Shame on you for not spotting the conman who has been in Washington conning people for over 50 years.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:49AM (17 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:49AM (#1092284)

        For someone who couldn't shut up about TDS every time Trump was criticized for his criminality you are sure getting a head start on doing the exact same thing you complained about. Don't worry, no libs are excited about Biden so you won't get much push back except for this kind of mockery. If you actually find something valid to complain about we'll even join you!

        • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday December 29 2020, @02:02AM (16 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 29 2020, @02:02AM (#1092312) Journal

          Check out my sig, since you seem to have missed it. I intend to treat the imposter-elect the same as the other side has treated the current imposter.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @02:37AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @02:37AM (#1092321)

            We look forward to your infinite generosity when considering Obama, sorry, Biden's groveling bipartisan olive branch waving.

          • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @02:38AM (12 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @02:38AM (#1092322)

            Didn't you get the memo? White supremacy has been defeated now the left have elected the guy who eulogized KKK Grand Wizard Robert Byrd. [newsweek.com] Even the ironically named Antifa cancelled the revolution to start a soccer league with... 88 players [adl.org] as they informed us in 14 words...

            • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @05:00AM (4 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @05:00AM (#1092360)

              Wow. "I know you are but what am I?"

              Rightwing nutters know no shame. Don't worry, we don't like Biden either but he and Kamal Harris are still 1,000,000X better than Trump and his active white supremacist agenda promoting rightwing authoritarianism world wide.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @07:37AM (3 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @07:37AM (#1092389)

                There is something that feels good about being ruled by people "like" oneself. (What constitutes "like?") I am very much looking forward to KDH being the first president like me. I already voted for HRC on that basis, and KDH may even be less evil.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @08:52AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @08:52AM (#1092408)

                  Incels truly be loving their misogyny.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @03:29PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @03:29PM (#1092483)

                  As every racist and sexist says...

                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday January 01 2021, @02:23AM

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 01 2021, @02:23AM (#1093467) Journal

                  There is something that feels good about being ruled by people "like" oneself.

                  That's a typical authoritarian impulse. It's more challenging to be ruled by yourself rather than merely people who pretend to be like you.

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday December 29 2020, @01:51PM (6 children)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 29 2020, @01:51PM (#1092454) Journal
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @06:57PM (5 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @06:57PM (#1092561)

                Now that same inconsolable paranoiac comes at you with left politics, and isn’t content with ruining the odd holiday dinner, blind date, or shared cab. He or she does this infuriating interrogating at the office, in school, and in government agencies, in places where you can’t fake a headache and quietly leave the table.

                This is all taking place at a time when the only organized opposition to such thinking also supports federal troops rounding up protesters for open-ended detention, going maskless to own the libs, and other equivalent madnesses. If you’re not a Trump fan and can’t reason with the other thing either, what’s left?

                It is like you don't even read what you link to, you just see the headline and think it is a gotcha. I have yet to see a single example of this behavior in real life though pretty much every liberal I know agrees that PC culture goes too far. See, that is the difference between conservatives and liberals. Generally liberals are able to take criticism and adjust their world views, conservatives double down on their bad behavior and blame their victims.

                Double bonus for you sourcing an article that is basically "liberals are mean to us" as your crystalline structure melts under the harsh light of reality. Get fucked you old hate filled wind bag!

                • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday December 29 2020, @07:09PM (1 child)

                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 29 2020, @07:09PM (#1092568) Journal

                  Liberals can take criticism - right. Now, about that critical race theory bullshit? How long until Creepy Joe tells everyone that it's the law of the land?

                  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @08:21PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @08:21PM (#1092603)

                    Not our fault you're an idiot, be angry at illusions I guess, just don't blow up shit or shoot people like your idiot bros mmkay?

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @09:47PM (2 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @09:47PM (#1092636)

                  pretty much every liberal I know agrees that PC culture goes too far.

                  Whatcha' talkin' 'bout Willis? [reason.com]

                  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @10:06PM (1 child)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @10:06PM (#1092649)

                    hahahahahaha

                    headline click bait caught another acanthonus armatus

                    i would try and educate you but it is obvious it would be wasted effort

                    best of luck avoiding dem sharks

                    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday December 30 2020, @02:38AM

                      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 30 2020, @02:38AM (#1092727) Journal

                      headline click bait caught another acanthonus armatus

                      Sounds like that's what the school district will be producing.

                      The San Diego Unified School District, for instance, moved this fall to abolish its traditional grading system. Students will still receive letter grades, but they won't reflect average scores on papers, quizzes, and tests. Under the new system, pupils will not be penalized for failing to complete assignments or even show up for class, and teachers will give them extra opportunities to demonstrate their "mastery" of subjects. What constitutes mastery is not quite clear, but grades shall not be influenced by behavior or "nonacademic measures" such as quantity of work completed, according to guidance from the district.*

                      And what news source doesn't have catchy headlines?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @09:33PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @09:33PM (#1092630)

            I intend to treat the imposter-elect the same as the other side has treated the current imposter.

            You bellyache a lot when that's done to you.

            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Pslytely Psycho on Wednesday December 30 2020, @04:34AM

              by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Wednesday December 30 2020, @04:34AM (#1092756)

              Typical. You dished it out for eight years under Obama and cry like a little whipped dog when you get half that.

              So, in the words of the right...."Fuck your feelings."

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