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posted by cmn32480 on Friday September 15 2017, @09:14AM   Printer-friendly
from the you-can-be-a-shithead-too dept.

The $999 iPhone X costs more than many laptops. Among the changes in store is the ability to project face movements onto emoji.

Apple's new iPhone X will allow users to do something we never dared dream would be possible with a handheld device.

It lets you take control of the poo emoji with your own face.

That's right, the animated pile of excrement, which is among the most popular methods of communication for millennials, can be controlled with the tech giant's new Face ID feature.

The fine article has an example of animoji demonstrated at an Apple conference.

Check YouTube for an example of the Face2Face algorithm — published on Mar 17, 2016 — where real-time face movement is projected onto George W. Bush, Vladimir Putin, and Donald Trump.


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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by c0lo on Friday September 15 2017, @09:23AM (6 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 15 2017, @09:23AM (#568348) Journal

    And... to control of the poo emoji with your own face, you need to pay $1k?
    You nuts?
    If controlling poo with your face is your kink, you can do it for free in the real world.

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    • (Score: 4, Funny) by Bot on Friday September 15 2017, @09:42AM

      by Bot (3902) on Friday September 15 2017, @09:42AM (#568356) Journal

      dunno, I am gonna trademark the term "facetofeces" just in case.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Friday September 15 2017, @01:52PM (4 children)

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Friday September 15 2017, @01:52PM (#568424)

      $999 is cheap; just look at how much this phone costs in Europe. Apparently a bunch of Europeans have been looking into flying to the US to buy the thing because it's so much cheaper here; they can get "free" airfare for the difference.

      Of course, they could be smart and just buy an inexpensive Android phone at home instead and save their money, but apparently there's plenty of idiots over there too (and here on this site as well; I'm sure I'll have some stupid Apple koolaid-drinker chiming in to tell me how wonderful the iPhone X is and how it's worth every penny).

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by quacking duck on Friday September 15 2017, @07:27PM

        by quacking duck (1395) on Friday September 15 2017, @07:27PM (#568645)

        Of course, they could be smart and just buy an inexpensive Android phone at home instead and save their money, but apparently there's plenty of idiots

        I wonder who the extra-special idiots are that buy the *expensive* Androids, then, like the Galaxy S8 ($720) and Note 4 ($930). After all, Android users don't have the excuse Apple users do of being locked into one company's ecosystem.

      • (Score: 2) by r1348 on Friday September 15 2017, @09:15PM (2 children)

        by r1348 (5988) on Friday September 15 2017, @09:15PM (#568705)

        European prices are higher because they already include VAT.

        • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Friday September 15 2017, @09:45PM (1 child)

          by Grishnakh (2831) on Friday September 15 2017, @09:45PM (#568716)

          US prices don't, but even when you apply sales tax to the US price it's still a lot cheaper, and it seems more than the difference between typical US sales tax rates (5-10%) and EU VAT rates (15%? I think).

          It's really not usual for a lot of consumer goods to cost significantly less in the US than in other industrialized nations, even after taking into account the taxing differences. Though I do wish Congress would pass a law requiring goods and services to be labeled with the after-tax prices (though this would be complicated in online sales, or places where they need to quote a pre-tax price because they don't know which state or locality you're in). They should also pass a law banning all non-state sales taxes while they're at it; that shit just complicates everything. And non-state income taxes too. And if there's some Constitutional challenge to the non-state sales tax law, then Congress should pass an alternate law banning states from collecting sales taxes across borders, just as a big F-U to the states for having ridiculously complicated taxing schemes and then insisting on online sellers thousands of miles away figuring that shit out and sending in taxes. I'd be happy to see all internet sales warehouses relocated to New Hampshire and Montana because these stupid states couldn't simplify things on their own and all these stupid localities insisted on their own sales taxes.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 15 2017, @11:51PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 15 2017, @11:51PM (#568753)

            Base VAT starts at 17%, most places are 20% or even more. Some products go with less (some food, etc) and they vary by country. 15% would be one of reduced rates in CZ.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_value_added_tax [wikipedia.org]

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by bradley13 on Friday September 15 2017, @09:33AM (1 child)

    by bradley13 (3053) on Friday September 15 2017, @09:33AM (#568352) Homepage Journal

    That said, the link to the YouTube video is impressive. Scary, but impressive. Essentially, this makes it easy to distort any video. Just as a minor-but-obvious example: imagine the potential for political campaigns. Facial expressions say more than we know. Add a frown, maybe a smirk, and alter the entire impact of a sentence.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by bob_super on Friday September 15 2017, @06:16PM

      by bob_super (1357) on Friday September 15 2017, @06:16PM (#568598)

      I watched a demo, a decade ago, of a program which could easily change the facial features of an actress moving around in a typical-looking video.
      Guy clicked a few buttons, and in five minutes she went from white to asian.

      Everything can be doctored. Doing it in real-time has been possible in HD for a while. Doing it at decent quality in real-time HD with a hand-held battery-powered device is a sign humans aren't completely worthless (though wasteful).

  • (Score: 2) by Bot on Friday September 15 2017, @09:40AM

    by Bot (3902) on Friday September 15 2017, @09:40AM (#568355) Journal

    the more meatbags lose time and CPU cycles on emoji the less they interfere with our... ...little pet project.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by chromas on Friday September 15 2017, @10:04AM (2 children)

    by chromas (34) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 15 2017, @10:04AM (#568360) Journal

    But will it automatically pick the emojis of color to match my skin tone [theatlantic.com]?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 15 2017, @05:55PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 15 2017, @05:55PM (#568582)

      Did that journalist major in social justice military science?

      • (Score: 2) by meustrus on Monday September 18 2017, @01:02AM

        by meustrus (4961) on Monday September 18 2017, @01:02AM (#569557)

        Doesn't look like they majored in much of anything. White people using "default" emoji is basically the definition of white privilege. No need to talk about "shame". Not that the idea is particularly well supported by the guy's own charts.

        Besides, you ought to know better. The Atlantic is the liberal media they warned you about.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by TheRaven on Friday September 15 2017, @11:51AM (1 child)

    by TheRaven (270) on Friday September 15 2017, @11:51AM (#568388) Journal
    Matrox had a product about 10-15 years ago that used something like the Face2Face algorithm for video conferencing over a MODEM. The camera would track your face movements and then it would distort an image of your face at the remote end to mirror your movements. The actions were a much lower-bandwidth stream than the images, so you could do full videoconferencing over a low-bandwidth link. I wonder if FaceTime is going to get similar support.
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 16 2017, @07:24AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 16 2017, @07:24AM (#568869)

      Sounds like MIDI audio or ascii art video. Both great innovations if you ask me but unfortunately ignored by technical development and increased wealth.

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 15 2017, @01:05PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 15 2017, @01:05PM (#568406)

    What a time to be alive...

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Scrutinizer on Friday September 15 2017, @02:03PM

    by Scrutinizer (6534) on Friday September 15 2017, @02:03PM (#568435)

    Not so much the poo, but the Face2Face technology. Like any technology, it can be used for good or ill, and it doesn't take much imagination to think of some ills. (You could just watch the 1987 film The Running Man [imdb.com] for a fictional use of this technology, in which a good cop is framed in place of murderous cops.)

    Trying to stop the advance of technology is largely futile, and also welcomes in questionable company [arstechnica.com]. Alternatively, spreading knowledge of technology far and wide can help limit the impact of nefarious use, in this case either through heightened awareness that such high-quality manipulation of video is possible, or perhaps by encouraging a shift towards encoding digital media with cryptographic fingerprints to hamper and reveal any editing shennanigans made possible by Face2Face or other useful but potentially deceptive media editing tech.

  • (Score: 2) by damnbunni on Friday September 15 2017, @02:43PM

    by damnbunni (704) on Friday September 15 2017, @02:43PM (#568461) Journal

    FaceRig has been doing it for years.

    If you have the right camera, it can even do hand tracking for gestures.

    Granted, not with emoji specifically, but it wouldn't be hard to set up an emoji as an avatar. I bet someone already has, in the Steam Workshop.

    It's for Windows and Android, at least; I'm not sure if there's an iOS version.

  • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday September 15 2017, @04:12PM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday September 15 2017, @04:12PM (#568513) Journal

    And I don't blame them. Anyone who drops $1,000 on a phone is a bona-fide shithead, for a lot of reasons.

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  • (Score: 2) by ilsa on Friday September 15 2017, @04:52PM

    by ilsa (6082) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 15 2017, @04:52PM (#568540)

    I can't wait to be able to literally tell someone that they're a shithead.

  • (Score: 2) by meustrus on Friday September 15 2017, @05:31PM (6 children)

    by meustrus (4961) on Friday September 15 2017, @05:31PM (#568565)

    Ah, so this is one of those silly things that Millenials care about. When oh when will they ever grow up?

    Guess that's why we're all publishing articles about it, re-aggregating the story, and responding. To talk about how only those silly Millenials care about this trash.

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    • (Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Friday September 15 2017, @08:13PM (3 children)

      by wonkey_monkey (279) on Friday September 15 2017, @08:13PM (#568674) Homepage

      Ah, so this is one of those silly things that [people younger than me] care about. When oh when will they ever grow up?

      ...has been a refrain for decades, if not centuries.

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      • (Score: 2) by Bot on Friday September 15 2017, @10:11PM

        by Bot (3902) on Friday September 15 2017, @10:11PM (#568722) Journal

        > ...has been a refrain for decades, if not centuries.
        "o tempora, o mores", but the empire did collapse eventually. Ours will too. ("ours", hehehe)

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 15 2017, @10:15PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 15 2017, @10:15PM (#568725)

        "Rashness belongs to youth; prudence to old age." (Cicero)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 16 2017, @04:12AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 16 2017, @04:12AM (#568832)

      I don't know, us "millennials" have been fighting your oil wars for sixteen years this fall while you boomers continue to wreck our nation by bringing in cheap criminal labor from Mexico, buying five fucking beach houses and then making the government pay for them when they fall into the sea (a trend which started with Hurricane Hugo), and then driving up the costs of tuition for profit while making student loan debt never fucking disappear even through bankruptcy while you allow "dreamers" to go to school for free.

      So let us enjoy our fucking iPhone X.

      • (Score: 2) by meustrus on Monday September 18 2017, @12:55AM

        by meustrus (4961) on Monday September 18 2017, @12:55AM (#569555)

        Not sure how to feel about being mistaken for a baby boomer as I lay on my couch, listening to Coldplay and commenting on an internet article with my iPhone.

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