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Multiple states are preparing measures to monitor chronic wasting disease in their deer populations:
Despite rain and snow, thousands of Michigan hunters dragged their deer to check stations to be tested for chronic wasting disease — a condition that comes from the same family as "mad cow" disease.
"I was amazed that we had 150 deer come through the check station on the first day of gun season in Montcalm County," said Chad Stewart, Michigan Department of Natural Resources deer specialist. "Given the Wednesday opener and the bad weather, I was blown away."
Dollars generated from deer licenses and hunting-related purchases bring in millions in matching funds for habitat restoration and endangered species. They also help fund the testing for CWD, a demon of a disease that has been identified in 11 free-ranging Michigan deer and is feared to be on the verge of crossing over to humans. It just might alter the way we hunt forever.
"When they look back on the history of deer management in Michigan, these years will be considered pivotal to the culture of deer hunting," said Stewart. "I don't want people to think it's a death sentence for deer management. For now, there will be changes and additional restrictions. Change is hard to adapt to."
Montana drafting plans for hunt to monitor deer disease
Chronic wasting disease has been slowly spreading among deer, elk and moose in the Rocky Mountains, including Montana, Wyoming and Colorado. Symptoms include weight loss, listlessness and drooling.
Washington will restrict the import of deer carcasses from Montana.
(Score: 3, Informative) by realDonaldTrump on Monday November 27 2017, @10:19PM (4 children)
I don’t approve of killing animals. But what else can you do to stop these types of things from happening? My sons love to hunt. They are members of the NRA, very proudly. I am a big believer in the Second Amendment. If Crooked Hillary had gotten to pick her judges, put them in the Supreme Court? The Second Amendment people, maybe would have done something. I don't know. But my sons are hunters, Eric is a hunter and I would say he puts it on a par with golf, if not ahead of golf. My other son, Don, is a hunter. They're great marksman, great shots, they love it. I don't do that. I like golf.
(Score: 5, Funny) by PartTimeZombie on Monday November 27 2017, @10:28PM (1 child)
Too many well structured sentences to be like the real Donald.
(Score: 3, Informative) by realDonaldTrump on Monday November 27 2017, @11:59PM
In my home town I went to Fordham University. Then I transferred to UPenn. And graduated from the Wharton School with the highest honors. The absolute highest. The likes of which nobody has ever seen. So trust me. I know my way around a sentence. I can do a tremendous sentence. Tremendous!
(Score: 4, Informative) by Grishnakh on Monday November 27 2017, @10:35PM
Don, this stuff isn't real, it's just a big hoax like global warming. Tell your sons to fearlessly do their hunting in northern Colorado, and make sure to enjoy the deer brains!
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 28 2017, @04:27AM
Then why did you sell Trump-brand steak??
(Score: 3, Funny) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Monday November 27 2017, @10:36PM
The bastards!
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(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 27 2017, @11:01PM (3 children)
Venison will kill you, just like beef.
So you want pork, go to Memphis. Nobody does pork rib better, absolutely no one.
Oh, you think you know better, you think you know better than the King? The King? Fuck you.
Elvis knew his pork ribs, and so do I.
Long live the King.
(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Monday November 27 2017, @11:54PM (2 children)
Nothing better than pork which are so tender that you can't grab them by the bone as it just slides out.
(Score: 1, Redundant) by LoRdTAW on Monday November 27 2017, @11:54PM (1 child)
Oops submit instead of preview. That should read pork ribs, specifically baby back ribs.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 28 2017, @12:48AM
No worries. The other day, Elvis came up to me, at a gas station, and told me "hubba hubba hubba, it's alright baby."
I told him, damn straight. So what's going on? He said, it's all good, and shit like that.
Oh, Elvis also said "trump is a dotard, and I don't even know what 'dotard' means, but whatever."
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Snotnose on Tuesday November 28 2017, @12:06AM (9 children)
I can't imagine putting my crosshairs on an animal 100+ yards away and killing it. An mt pepsi can? Not a problem. In fact, after 50 yards for a handgun and 100 yards for my rifle it's a good challenge. I eat meat and understand the hypocrisy but hey, whatever.
That said, no issue shooting a human. Why did I buy my first gun? I was 18, bedroom window was right above my bed, I woke up at 2 AM with a foot on my chest. 2 days later I had a .22 I slept with. 5 years later I could afford a 9mm, which I sleep with to this day. Decades ago I did the whole "could you really shoot someone?" only to decide "yeah. my castle. my gun. I'm not a moron. Fark you".
When the dust settled America realized it was saved by a porn star.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Sulla on Tuesday November 28 2017, @12:21AM (2 children)
Going to agree with you here. Hunting seems pretty difficult to someone not raised into it, guns at all for that matter. Where to go shooting, when to go shooting, when/where to hunt, how to hunt, how to dress the animal afterwards. Easier to just have fun shooting shoes (bounce around and make a fun target) and buy meat from the market.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 4, Funny) by Snotnose on Tuesday November 28 2017, @12:42AM (1 child)
Heh. Cheap trick. Buy cantaloupes or tomatoes. For a handgun put them 50 yards downrange, a rifle 200 yards. You will know when you hit them. You will also impress non-shooters you've invited along, in my case hoping to get into her pants (it was 30 years ago), in your case whatever.
Fun fact. I hit garage sales around Christmas looking for ornaments to use as targets. Several years ago someone was selling dolls at a very nice price, I bought all of them. Then some 8 y/o female human kitten said "are you gonna take care of my dolls?". To which, dumass as I am, replied "I'm gonna take em to the desert and shoot em". Kid cried, I felt like shit, still shot them at 300 yards in the desert.
/ the secret?
// water doesn't compress
/// watermelons, cantaloupes, tomatoes. Impressive as hell if you hit them.
When the dust settled America realized it was saved by a porn star.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Geezer on Tuesday November 28 2017, @01:29AM
Leftover Halloween pumpkins full of Tannerite are, literally, a blast.
I shot some at 200 yards with my trusty Mosin and told my wife I was making pie filling.
(Score: 1, Redundant) by FatPhil on Tuesday November 28 2017, @07:10AM
However, you do finish with a tale that reinforces the idea common in much of the rest of the world that americans have guns because they don't live in a particularly civilised society, and have a gun because they are scared of the society they've created. (A "polite" one, they apparently call it, which proves they might have some hope mastering irony.)
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(Score: 2) by CoolHand on Tuesday November 28 2017, @12:22PM (4 children)
You don't have to eat animals and live with that hypocrisy. I feel much better about myself without it since I've stopped eating animals. There's a great free program where you can try it for 22 days and have mentoring to help you out. https://www.challenge22.com/ [challenge22.com]
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 28 2017, @02:05PM
I feel much better about myself since I stopped listening to liberals. To each his own.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday November 28 2017, @04:48PM (2 children)
#1 Jesus ate meat. Almost definitely ate Sheep / Lamb and Fish.
#2 He ate "healthy" meat. I.E. no scavengers.
#3 Eat healthy meat, you should be just fine.
#4 I'm a vegetarian, but I have tried some meat. I've also accidentally eaten crab rolls. Still not going to hell for consuming meat. I also, don't believe that eating the "wrong thing" will send you to hell. (We'll leave cannibalism out of the discussion.)
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by CoolHand on Wednesday November 29 2017, @06:06PM
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 30 2017, @05:49PM
What's wrong with the meat of scavengers?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by bob_super on Tuesday November 28 2017, @12:15AM
Forget the aliens, sea monsters, or meteors. We'll all get killed by weirdly folded proteins.
I don't even know how to properly salute our prion overlords!
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 28 2017, @01:26AM (1 child)
Symptoms include weight loss, listlessness and drooling?
Sounds a lot like your basic Starbuck's clientele.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 28 2017, @02:11AM
Your basic Starbuck's clientele isn't eating deer meat.
Now your run-of-the-mill rednecks...
(Score: 3, Insightful) by MostCynical on Tuesday November 28 2017, @02:10AM (10 children)
Mad cow came from feeding cows ground-up sheep brains.
What did the deer eat?
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 3, Informative) by ese002 on Tuesday November 28 2017, @03:17AM (5 children)
Scrapie [wikipedia.org] (the sheep disease) is persistent in soil. Eating brains is not required. So, perhaps the deer caught it from sheep.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Tuesday November 28 2017, @04:36AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_wasting_disease#Epidemiology [wikipedia.org]
Pooped out, in the soil, then the grass, then eaten again.
Maybe the lush grass is the best tasting to the deer, but its likely to be best fertilized and the most infected.
It wouldn't be the first time we've seen that played out: Anthrax makes grass lush too: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/10/01/1039257 [soylentnews.org]
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(Score: 1, Insightful) by aristarchus on Tuesday November 28 2017, @05:30AM (3 children)
And, of course, it is not a disease, or at least not one with microbial or viral agent. It is proteins getting off on the wrong foot, folding the wrong way, and the next thing you know you are voting Republican and hold Trump to the be greatest precedent evar! Look up "Kuru Disease" for a human varient. Cannibalism: not just wrong because it is un-neighborly.
(Score: 2, Informative) by rylyeh on Tuesday November 28 2017, @06:04AM (2 children)
Prions are only destroyed when heated to 3000° F.
I like the X-Files 'Chaco chicken - good food, good people!'
Creutzfeldt–Jakob [wikipedia.org] syndrome is a bitch!
"a vast crenulate shell wherein rode the grey and awful form of primal Nodens, Lord of the Great Abyss."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 29 2017, @07:26PM (1 child)
Better information from https://consteril.com/prion-sterilization-guide/ [consteril.com]
* Option 1. Autoclave at 134°C for 18 minutes in a prevacuum sterilizer.
* Option 2. Autoclave at 132°C for 1 hour in a gravity displacement sterilizer.
* Option 3. Immerse in 1 N NaOH (1 N NaOH is a solution of 40 g NaOH in 1 L water) for 1 hour; remove and rinse in water, then transfer to an open pan and autoclave (121°C gravity displacement sterilizer or 134°C porous prevacuum sterilizer) for 1 hour.
* Option 4. Immerse in 1 N NaOH for 1 hour and heat in a gravity displacement sterilizer at 121°C for 30 minutes, then clean and subject to routine sterilization.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 30 2017, @06:00PM
I'm going to start soaking all my food in NaOH solution!
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Pav on Tuesday November 28 2017, @05:09AM (2 children)
YouTube is full of deer (and other herbivores) eating birds, carcasses etc... As an aside, the largest ever marsupial predator was called thylacoleo carnifex and was decended from a recent herbivorous ancestor, and had a dentition completely different from other mammalian carnivores as a result: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QEBz5JESZNU [youtube.com]
(Score: 3, Insightful) by MostCynical on Tuesday November 28 2017, @05:40AM (1 child)
Suppose a hungry herbivore isn't always a herbivore.
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 28 2017, @02:48PM
100% correct. There is no such thing as a herbivore. Calories gotten from eating meat are just too good to pass up. A cow will gladly eat a rabbit carcass. What soy boys do is more or less self-flagellation. That's fine, more ladies for the rest of us.
(Score: 2) by Kromagv0 on Tuesday November 28 2017, @01:50PM
My understanding is that CWD is initially spread to wild deer populations by the deer eating in close proximity (nose to nose basically) with infected domestic farm animals or eating from their food troughs. It then is likely spread in the wild populations where baiting is allowed because again there are piles of food put out where the deer are again eating in close proximity, nose to nose, to each other. Here in Minnesota there was an outbreak way up north of it several years back that started from deer eating food at an elk farm. Earlier this year some farmed deer tested positive for CWD in central Minnesota so all hunted deer in that area had to be checked as well and so far it doesn't appear that any have tested positive in that wild population. Down in south eastern Minnesota there has been an outbreak but they think it is from deer coming over Wisconsin where baiting is allowed. Despite baiting being illegal here lots of people do it or rig up bird feeders, a trash can filled with corn hanging in a tree waiting for a stiff breeze to blow so it dumps, out in the woods to skirt the law. I use to put out some food on my recreational property for the deer but it would never be lots and it would never be in a pile. It would instead be go pitch the 4 old jack-o-lanterns out in to the woods in different parts of the property, or shoot some sweet potatoes out into the woods out of a potato cannon.
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(Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday November 28 2017, @04:27AM (4 children)
It use to be you rarely saw deer, and it was a big deal if you saw several at once. A casual drive through almost any Midwestern state these days and you are likely to see dead deer on the side of the road, 4 to the hundred mile. Every farm field seems to have a raised shooting shack, which you never used to see in farm country because the deer seldom came out in the open. You had to go into the woods to get them. Now all you need is a scope and flat shooting rifle, and a thermos of coffee.
There are either a lot more deer these days, or they all have wasting disease and are too brain infected to run away. (They tend to walk in circles sometimes for hours).
We actually need to reduce the herd for our own protection before this disease does cross over to humans, by nothing more complex than the deer eating out of our food supply in our fields and gardens.
Are they still insisting the meat is good to eat, if cooked?
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday November 28 2017, @05:54AM
Arby's is Selling Venison Sandwiches in Six Deer-Hunting States [soylentnews.org]
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(Score: 2) by CoolHand on Tuesday November 28 2017, @12:25PM (2 children)
In my experience, in my midwestern state, since the 70's, it's always been like this. I don't see much difference, between the 1970's and now, in the amount of deer I see (maybe less now in fact).
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 28 2017, @08:15PM
Not sure how old he is. Could be a real old-timer.
(Score: 1) by toddestan on Saturday December 02 2017, @05:43PM
It's been like this a while as their natural predators have been hunted to near extinction if not totally extinct in most areas. We actually need hunters to keep the deer from over population, as otherwise their only other predators are cars and trucks.