China Battles Coronavirus Outbreak: All the Latest Updates:
The virus thought to have originated in a Wuhan food market continues to spread as China steps up containment efforts.
[...] China is extending the Lunar New Year holiday for three days and enforcing strict containment measures in an attempt to curb the spread of a new coronavirus that has killed 80 people and infected at more than 2,700, most of them in the central province of Hubei where the virus first emerged.
The holiday season was due to end on Friday but will now be extended until February 2.
More than 56 million people in almost 20 cities, including the Hubei capital of Wuhan, have been affected by travel restrictions, introduced amid fears the transmission rate will balloon as hundreds of millions of Chinese travel during the Lunar New Year celebrations.
[...] Health authorities around the world are taking action to prevent a pandemic as more countries report cases. Confirmed cases have so far been announced in several Asiancountries, Europe and North America.
[...] The World Health Organization (WHO) has acknowledged the respiratory illness, which has been traced to the city of Wuhan, is an emergency in China but the organisation said on Thursday it was too early to declare the outbreak a public health emergency of international concern.
(Score: 2) by looorg on Monday January 27 2020, @04:14PM (9 children)
So how many people, approximations are fine, die in like a normal outbreak or flu season etc in China? Considering there are billions of of them the number so far seem very low. Don't think there is reason to prep for the doomsday scenarios just yet.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 27 2020, @04:35PM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 27 2020, @05:12PM (1 child)
Not sure how people do not understand this [soylentnews.org].
Linear vs exponential growth. If you ever reach the point that a new plague is scaring people who don't appreciate exponential growth, then it's far far too late to do anything.
And no, 99% of the time it will be fine - but that's only because people treat this things extremely seriously. China is literally canceling New Years festivities in most major cities in the country. New Years is a much larger celebration in China than the US so it's more analogous to something like the government 'cancelling Christmas.' The analogy doesn't quite work because of the difference between public and private gatherings, but I speaking of the magnitude of this act. The point being that this is an absolutely appropriate reaction on their part.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 27 2020, @06:31PM
Everyone understrands exponential growth, but only idiots spout off about it when that has never been observed to happen ever. The only way it continues into the summer is if we get one of those grand solar minimum years without a summer.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by ElizabethGreene on Monday January 27 2020, @05:40PM (5 children)
I agree with you that it's not time to move into the bunker, but it is a reasonable time to have a conversation about tripwires.
At what point are you no longer willing to fly to the source province in China?
To China generally?
To stop international air travel?
To stop all air travel?
To stop all travel?
To work only from home?
To pull the kids out of school?
To stay home, living off stored supplies?
To move into the bunker?
I travel for work a fair amount, mostly within the US. Speaking only for me, I will not travel to China now, and I'm hesitant to travel internationally or to any state with active cases. I'm following the cases here in the US to see the impact under competent medical care before making a decision about what moves us further down the list.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 27 2020, @06:28PM
i think you got your priorities wrong.
mean shouldn't you save your kids very early on?
i mean if you should run out of rations while in the bunker ... you still got the kids ...
(i kid, i kid(no pun intended))
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Monday January 27 2020, @06:32PM (3 children)
CDC has some information out now that is worth checking out. It would need verification (I don't have time right now) but I read last night on their website they were routing incoming flights from China through airports setup for testing everyone coming in from those regions. It might be worth it to avoid using those airports as hubs until we hear more.
The big concern I have is that the virus appears to be able to spread when the host has not shown any symptoms. Cities with universities that host large numbers of students from China might also be risky until we are outside of the window from where we started testing people coming in, although maybe longer as the virus appears to last at least 24 hours on surfaces.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 27 2020, @07:02PM (2 children)
What are they testing for?
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Monday January 27 2020, @07:35PM (1 child)
Evidently pointless to catch the people who are asymptomatic
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0117-coronavirus-screening.html [cdc.gov] from the 17th
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0124-second-travel-coronavirus.html [cdc.gov] from the 24th
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 27 2020, @07:52PM
So they are screening for symptoms of pneumonia, even though we are told you can spread the virus without showing symptoms. Ie, there was that guy who got surgery and only then became symptomatic (probably because surgery depletes vitamin c). But before that he had still supposedly managed to infect 15 healthcare workers.
And then there is the fact that I still haven't seen any proof this virus they have a sequence for is actually causing the symptoms. There are seemingly lots of cases with the same symptoms who test negative for the virus.