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posted by martyb on Saturday December 25 2021, @11:30AM   Printer-friendly
from the this-time-for-sure! dept.

James Webb Space Telescope reaches launch pad for Christmas liftoff

The James Webb Space Telescope is due to launch on Saturday (Dec. 25) during a 32-minute window that opens at 7:20 a.m. EST (1220 GMT). The massive observatory will blast off from Kourou, French Guiana, atop an Ariane 5 rocket operated by European launch provider Arianespace. You can watch launch coverage live at Space.com beginning at 6 a.m. EST (1100 GMT) courtesy of NASA or you can watch directly at the agency's website.

ESA launch kit (PDF).

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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday December 24 2021, @08:11PM (4 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday December 24 2021, @08:11PM (#1207649) Homepage Journal

    Which part of the world will Santa be in at the launch time? The military used to track Santa so they wouldn't launch anything at him. Does NASA even have the secret codes on the secret frequencies to communicate with Santa Clause? I assume that Navy Air is checking on possible collisions! Can't count on Army or Air Force.

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24 2021, @08:23PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24 2021, @08:23PM (#1207659)

      Contrary to the propaganda, santa is out with covid, right now in mandatory 10-day quarantine.

      You ain't getting jackshit this x-mas - "supply chain" problem you see.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24 2021, @09:09PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24 2021, @09:09PM (#1207667)

      The sleigh's grounded this year because Rudolph violated the Code of Conduct again.

      • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24 2021, @10:31PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24 2021, @10:31PM (#1207684)

        Rudolph usually violates Blitzen. Which one is Code of Conduct?

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24 2021, @09:48PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24 2021, @09:48PM (#1207675)

      Just got a card* with Santa on the couch in a psychotherapy office. The shrink is sitting to one side, she's taking notes on a pad. Santa says, "When I was a kid my parents told me I didn't exist."

      * egad, yes, I mail cards to friends and they mail them to me--it's the latest fun covid pastime.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24 2021, @08:16PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24 2021, @08:16PM (#1207651)

    By and Arain rocket.

    Right. Good job ALL WHITE NASA

  • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24 2021, @08:20PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24 2021, @08:20PM (#1207656)

    To the Infinity!

    Or Kaput!

    That is the question.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Snotnose on Friday December 24 2021, @09:25PM (5 children)

    by Snotnose (1623) on Friday December 24 2021, @09:25PM (#1207670)

    If memory serves 138 is the right number, and that doesn't include the launch. If any one of them fails, the whole project fails.

    That means there are 138 managers who's reputation are on the line in the next 30 days, and I sure as hell wouldn't want to be one of them.

    I've done software for 40 years, and I can think of only 2 managers I've had I would trust with one of these, both were with Qualcomm in the 90s.

    Shoutout to Rich and Cliff.

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    • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Friday December 24 2021, @10:42PM

      by acid andy (1683) on Friday December 24 2021, @10:42PM (#1207689) Homepage Journal

      Don't tell me that Snotnose. I'm nervous enough about this launch as it is!

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @01:24AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @01:24AM (#1207718)

      It's 300 and something. Most of them are related to the deployment, but a few are part of the actual science stuff.

      It might work, but if they each have a 0.2% chance of failure, the overall system is still just a coin flip. To get actual good odds you need four or five nines on them all. Assuming the rocket doesn't blow up.

    • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @02:41PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @02:41PM (#1207785)

      > 138 managers who's reputation are on the line

      Managers? I don't think you know how this works. It's the lousy staff, can't get anyone decent these days. They better shape up else Christmas is cancelled FOREVER you mutts.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @02:51AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @02:51AM (#1207886)

      One manager can be (and often is) responsible for multiple points of failure.

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24 2021, @10:13PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24 2021, @10:13PM (#1207679)

    What a wonderful day for a new bright star to appear in the sky.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @03:08PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @03:08PM (#1207794)

      Yes, I too celebrate the solstice of the Julian calendar.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by acid andy on Friday December 24 2021, @10:41PM (3 children)

    by acid andy (1683) on Friday December 24 2021, @10:41PM (#1207688) Homepage Journal

    Thanks SoylentNews, I might well have missed this if it wasn't for this article. Now I've really got something to look forward to on Christmas day!

    Hey, the comment counts on the home page for the most recent stories are showing as zero. Until I clicked on the story I thought I was the only one nerdy enough or addicted enough to be commenting on Christmas eve but I guess something broke.

    Merry Christmas Soylentils!

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    • (Score: 2, Touché) by khallow on Saturday December 25 2021, @12:26AM (1 child)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 25 2021, @12:26AM (#1207711) Journal

      but I guess something broke

      Like all your fellow Soylentils, perhaps?

      • (Score: 4, Touché) by acid andy on Saturday December 25 2021, @01:36AM

        by acid andy (1683) on Saturday December 25 2021, @01:36AM (#1207721) Homepage Journal

        Shouldn't you consider the possibility that it's the complement of the set of fellow Soylentils that's broken?

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    • (Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Sunday December 26 2021, @03:31AM

      by bzipitidoo (4388) Subscriber Badge on Sunday December 26 2021, @03:31AM (#1207890) Journal

      Something broke? What, the atheists won the War on Christmas??

  • (Score: 2) by corey on Friday December 24 2021, @11:06PM (8 children)

    by corey (2202) on Friday December 24 2021, @11:06PM (#1207701)

    Might watch it. JWST is going to be interesting. Hubble is old school.

    For us in AEDT, it’s 9.20pm tonight.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Saturday December 25 2021, @10:00AM (7 children)

      by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Saturday December 25 2021, @10:00AM (#1207754) Journal

      NASA livestream starts an hour and 20 minutes early, or 1 hour from this comment.

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      • (Score: 2) by canopic jug on Saturday December 25 2021, @12:29PM

        by canopic jug (3949) on Saturday December 25 2021, @12:29PM (#1207760) Journal

        Thanks takyon. Because of the story here, I was able to catch the live stream of the launch. n

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      • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Saturday December 25 2021, @12:42PM (5 children)

        by acid andy (1683) on Saturday December 25 2021, @12:42PM (#1207761) Homepage Journal

        Hate to lower the tone, but I'm feeling sorry for the guy overseeing the launch, Jean-Luc Voer--it totally sounds like the narrator keeps calling him voyeuer!

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        • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Saturday December 25 2021, @12:56PM (2 children)

          by acid andy (1683) on Saturday December 25 2021, @12:56PM (#1207764) Homepage Journal

          s/Voer/Voeur/ s/voyeuer/voyeur/ Seems like an easy name to get wrong!

          Did anyone else see some small bits coming off the bottom part of Webb when it separated from the upper rocket stage? Hope that was just the springs / separation equipment. I thought the foil at the top of the picture looked sort of rough too. Hope there's no problems there!

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          • (Score: 5, Insightful) by takyon on Saturday December 25 2021, @01:24PM (1 child)

            by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Saturday December 25 2021, @01:24PM (#1207765) Journal

            You see that with pretty much any rocket launch with a camera showing stage separation. It's probably ice or something. It's not a Space Shuttle Columbia situation.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @02:38PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @02:38PM (#1207784)

              also the difference in speed between that last and all earlier stages that fell away instantly.

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by tangomargarine on Sunday December 26 2021, @05:51AM (1 child)

          by tangomargarine (667) on Sunday December 26 2021, @05:51AM (#1207905)

          "Jean-Luc Voyager"? Sounds like somebody's getting their Star Trek series mixed up.

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          • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Sunday December 26 2021, @10:55PM

            by acid andy (1683) on Sunday December 26 2021, @10:55PM (#1207967) Homepage Journal

            Yeah even my other half insisted he should be named Picard, what with his bald head and being in charge of (part of) a space mission. I muttered that he needed to say "Make it so."

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @01:29PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @01:29PM (#1207766)

    i wonder what we need to see with it that will allow us to buy 5 bellon dollar$ worth of bitcoins...

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @01:31PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @01:31PM (#1207767)

      you need a account at "only fans" for the uhm..err... deep penetrating views of the loonyverse, first...
      (hint: god doesn't drive a ferrari)

      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @05:24PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @05:24PM (#1207817)

        Didn't Musk give Him a Tesla?

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @06:15PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @06:15PM (#1207821)

          i suppose we'll see HIM but since HE's sooo far away, the new telescope will see 1/10000 of his left toenail tho the debate will rage on and a new better telescope will be required to clarify which toenail it was exactly ...

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by hendrikboom on Saturday December 25 2021, @02:05PM (11 children)

    by hendrikboom (1125) on Saturday December 25 2021, @02:05PM (#1207773) Homepage Journal

    It's in orbit now.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @02:35PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @02:35PM (#1207782)

      funny that the info graphics show shadows on the cold side.
      https://www.jwst.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/deploymentExplorer.html [nasa.gov]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @02:43PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @02:43PM (#1207786)

      How long til it reaches Mars and initiates planetary oxygenation?

    • (Score: 2) by crafoo on Saturday December 25 2021, @03:12PM (1 child)

      by crafoo (6639) on Saturday December 25 2021, @03:12PM (#1207796)

      Damn I missed the launch. I just assumed it would be pushed back again!

      I was watching Scott Manley's video yesterday on Webb and I think he said it will take about 2 weeks to get into the final orbit out past the moon-earth L2 point. They undershot on the upper stage because there was a risk it would be an over-performing engine and send the telescope out past it's orbit, with too much energy for the telescope to use it's fuel to return.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @05:12PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @05:12PM (#1207815)

        >> Damn I missed the launch. I just assumed it would be pushed back again!

        Yeah, I'd put aside some time in 2029 too.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @07:34PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @07:34PM (#1207835)

      Making it past the swirling swarm of space junk around our poor old planet is a big step. The things that Hubble brought us must be appreciated and not forgotten. Webb is the next stage, the next generation - decades on. I feel privileged to live to see the wonders this new instrument will show us about the universe.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @02:58AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @02:58AM (#1207888)

        Not really. Most of what is up there is easily avoided if you are just passing through. The trouble happens when you stay in near Earth orbit, because repeated near-misses means something will eventually hit.

        • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Sunday December 26 2021, @07:50PM

          by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Sunday December 26 2021, @07:50PM (#1207959) Homepage
          Most of what's up there, by mass, is avoidable. However, when a speck weighing 1/10 of a gram carries as much energy as a high power rifle round, it's the myraid more in number small things that you actually need to be afraid of, as they can kill something a million times their size. We're a sphere - we're potentially an infinitude of collider beams everywhere, and those particle beams are invisible to us.
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    • (Score: 2) by coolgopher on Saturday December 25 2021, @10:29PM (2 children)

      by coolgopher (1157) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 25 2021, @10:29PM (#1207858)

      Did hell just freeze over??

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by hendrikboom on Sunday December 26 2021, @12:35AM (1 child)

        by hendrikboom (1125) on Sunday December 26 2021, @12:35AM (#1207875) Homepage Journal

        Well, if you read Dante, you'll know that the innermost circle of Hell is already a permanently frozen waste.

        • (Score: 2) by coolgopher on Sunday December 26 2021, @11:18AM

          by coolgopher (1157) Subscriber Badge on Sunday December 26 2021, @11:18AM (#1207918)

          So... telling Musk to go to hell is merely encouragement for his existing endeavour?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @07:52AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @07:52AM (#1207908)
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @06:38PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @06:38PM (#1207825)
    I find it humorous that they didn't trust SpaceX enough to handle the launch....
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @07:03PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @07:03PM (#1207831)

      I don't think it would fit in their fairing, and they'd already decided on Arian waaay back

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Saturday December 25 2021, @07:57PM (1 child)

      by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Saturday December 25 2021, @07:57PM (#1207838) Journal

      They started planning this mission in 1996 for a launch in 2007. Falcon 9's maiden flight was in 2010.

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      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @11:06PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @11:06PM (#1207865)

        Man, we almost got to Web 4.0 before JWST launched.

        It's weird to think that JWST is nearly as old as the WWW. Also weird that that still feels like yesterday.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @11:27PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25 2021, @11:27PM (#1207866)

      They got a free launch, and in return, Europe gets extra time on the telescope

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @10:58AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @10:58AM (#1207917)

        No such thing as a free launch

  • (Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @02:23AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @02:23AM (#1207884)

    I thought soylentnews supported diversity equity and inclusion.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @02:52AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @02:52AM (#1207887)

      Ok Jew.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @03:49AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @03:49AM (#1207894)

      In March 2021, a commentary in Scientific American urged NASA to rename the James Webb Space Telescope, alleging that Webb had been complicit in the State Department's purge of LGBTQ individuals from the federal workforce.[23][24] In July 2021, a related telescope renaming article appeared in the journal Nature.[25][26] Scientists who opposed naming the telescope in Webb's honor pointed to the case of NASA budget analyst Clifford Norton, who in 1963 was accused of homosexual behavior, arrested and fired, with NASA calling his suspected conduct "immoral, indecent, and disgraceful". While critics argued that it would have been difficult for Webb not to be aware of these proceedings, direct evidence did not come to light.[27] Astrophysicist Hakeem Oluseyi wrote an article saying that the initial accusations that Webb was part of the Lavender Scare were based on a quote attributed to Webb which he never said, and that there is little to no evidence Webb took part in anti-gay discrimination.[27] On September 30, 2021, NASA announced that it would keep the JWST name after running an investigation and finding "no evidence at this time that warrants changing the name".

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_E._Webb [wikipedia.org]

      TL;DR Someone put words in his mouth and then used that and the actions of others to accuse him.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @05:48AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @05:48AM (#1207904)

      What is this, 6 degrees of cancel culture? Why is it SN's fault for reporting on a thing named after a guy who may have said something that had nothing to do with the thing

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @03:52PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26 2021, @03:52PM (#1207930)

        OP is obviously mocking the SJW menace.

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