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posted by martyb on Saturday November 07 2020, @07:10PM   Printer-friendly

Fox News (among many other outlets[*]) is reporting: Biden wins presidency, Trump denied second term in White House:

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has defeated President Trump, denying him a second term after a bitter campaign and dramatic, prolonged vote count in battleground states that sparked a flurry of lawsuits.

The Fox News Decision Desk projected Saturday that Biden will win the state of Nevada and the commonwealth of Pennsylvania, giving the former vice president the electoral votes he needs to win the White House.

[...] "I am honored and humbled by the trust the American people have placed in me and in Vice President-elect Harris," Biden said in a statement. "In the face of unprecedented obstacles, a record number of Americans voted. Proving once again, that democracy beats deep in the heart of America."

He added: "With the campaign over, it's time to put the anger and the harsh rhetoric behind us and come together as a nation."

Biden's campaign announced that the president-elect and Harris, his running mate, will speak at an event in his hometown of Wilmington, Delaware at 8 p.m. ET.

Joseph Biden would become the 46th President of the US; U.S. Senator Kamala Harris of California, the 49th Vice President.

Also at: NY Post, CBS News, ABC News, CNN, CNBC, and USA Today.

IMPORTANT: There are still votes to be counted, a recount has been requested in one state, and there are numerous court challenges launched by the Trump campaign. Further, nothing is official until the actual vote by the Electoral College.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by chewbacon on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:00PM (23 children)

    by chewbacon (1032) on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:00PM (#1074329)

    There was "#notmypresident", "We won the popular vote! Electoral isn't faaaaair!", "We're gonna impeach the fucker!" Winner always calls out the loser in a cycle that goes round and round; neither side is a graceful loser.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by meustrus on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:05PM (11 children)

    by meustrus (4961) on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:05PM (#1074382)

    There will always be sore losers. In recent history, though, the loser has congratulated the winner, every time. Bush Sr. did. Jimmy Carter did. Al Gore did, even in a much murkier situation when it came to which ballots were legitimate.

    But sure, there were sore losers in the electorate 4 years ago. They were completely shocked that Trump won back then, and they didn't want to believe that many people agree with him. Social media bubbles and all that. How many Trump supporters really actually didn't believe this was possible? I don't mean likely, I mean POSSIBLE.

    If there are sour grapes on the right over this election, it won't be like libs in 2016. May I remind you that all it amounted to was bitching and moaning? My fear is it would take a more "fuck the rules, 2nd amendment makes the rules now" route. We all know there are far more right-wing crazies than left-wing crazies with the will and means to attempt to overthrow the government.

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:22PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:22PM (#1074393)

      Who is causing the unrest in Portland and Pennsylvania?

      Maybe you should do some research?

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by martyb on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:53PM (1 child)

        by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:53PM (#1074418) Journal

        Who is causing the unrest in Portland and Pennsylvania?

        Trump?

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        • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:36AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:36AM (#1074507)

          So the new normal is I can do whatever the fuck I want, no matter how much it hurts people and breaks the law, and blame it on Biden. I like this new normal.

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:07AM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:07AM (#1074454) Journal

        Who is causing the unrest in Portland and Pennsylvania?

        Definitely not the people who just kicked Trump out of office unless you include being happy but also very sleepy in that list.

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:00AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:00AM (#1074491)

      Cause CHOP/CHAP was right wing?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:15AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:15AM (#1074498)

        Because anyone that's not right wing is left wing?

      • (Score: 2) by meustrus on Monday November 09 2020, @09:04PM

        by meustrus (4961) on Monday November 09 2020, @09:04PM (#1075331)

        Say what you will, but there was no CHOP/CHAP when Obama was president.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2020, @06:14AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2020, @06:14AM (#1075579)

        Geez, almost like conservatives should support police reforms instead of constantly supporting them when they murder innocent Americans. Curious, did you have any condemnations for the Bundy clan occupation of a federal building? I wait here, holding my breath, hope I don't die before you grow a spine!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @05:22AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @05:22AM (#1074569)

      https://youtu.be/khK9fIgoNjQ?t=427 [youtu.be]

      Totally no congratulations there and both sides confirmed the phone call at the time.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @09:27AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @09:27AM (#1074605)

      That's why it's helpful to win the popular vote.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday November 09 2020, @01:49PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 09 2020, @01:49PM (#1075138) Journal

      If there are sour grapes on the right over this election, it won't be like libs in 2016. May I remind you that all it amounted to was bitching and moaning? My fear is it would take a more "fuck the rules, 2nd amendment makes the rules now" route. We all know there are far more right-wing crazies than left-wing crazies with the will and means to attempt to overthrow the government.

      I was in Albuquerque, New Mexico when Trump won in 2016. Some of the losers bitched and moaned in the middle of an interstate highway that night.

  • (Score: 5, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Sunday November 08 2020, @12:41AM (10 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Sunday November 08 2020, @12:41AM (#1074441) Journal

    Hillary Clinton conceded like a man.

    Trump's going out like a little bitch.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by qzm on Sunday November 08 2020, @04:23AM (8 children)

      by qzm (3260) on Sunday November 08 2020, @04:23AM (#1074547)

      Ummm, what?

      She wrote a whole book on how the win was stolen from her, blaming pretty much everyone else involved on both sides.

      Win or Lose, there ARE significant indications of some very odd goings on around this election - to brush them under the carpet would be pretty damn stupid.
      Orange man good or bad, there is still due process to follow.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday November 08 2020, @04:29AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 08 2020, @04:29AM (#1074550) Journal

        Win or Lose, there ARE significant indications of some very odd goings on around this election

        COVID19 pandemic raging in US [worldometers.info] is good enough for yea?

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      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @04:41AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @04:41AM (#1074555)

        > She wrote a whole book ...

        At least Hillary wrote that book, Trump's memoir was completely ghost written (and the author later wished that he hadn't taken the job). Frankly, I doubt that Trump is capable of writing a book without major assistance, doesn't have the focus to do it.

        Note: at least one prior Hillary book, It Takes a Village, was ghost written. In that case, the excuse is that she had a full schedule as first lady during that time.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @05:41PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @05:41PM (#1074743)

          Frankly, I doubt that Trump is capable of READING a book without major assistance, doesn't have the focus to do it.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday November 09 2020, @01:52PM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 09 2020, @01:52PM (#1075140) Journal

          At least Hillary wrote that book

          Sure.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @09:40AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @09:40AM (#1074610)

        Win or Lose, there ARE significant indications of some very odd goings on around this election

        No, there are not, and for you to suggest such things means you need to be shot in the knees, have your liver removed, and your brain washed, at the very least. No, Trump lost fair and square, kind of like he did the first time. And if you have a problem with that, you can take it up with 75 Million Americans. They will not have any patience for your conspiracy theories.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by sjames on Sunday November 08 2020, @06:07PM

        by sjames (2882) on Sunday November 08 2020, @06:07PM (#1074755) Journal

        The only odd things going on are a sitting president trying to sabotage the USPS to limit the ability to vote absentee and then demanding that states stop counting legitimate ballots because they're not in his favor. Both of those are pretty irregular. Also a sitting president repeatedly declaring victory in spite of a clear defeat.

        None of those things suggest that Biden cheated or that anyone cheated on his behalf.

      • (Score: 2) by Joe Desertrat on Sunday November 08 2020, @07:45PM

        by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Sunday November 08 2020, @07:45PM (#1074783)

        Win or Lose, there ARE significant indications of some very odd goings on around this election - to brush them under the carpet would be pretty damn stupid.

        There have been odd goings on in almost every election at least since 2000. The 100,000 votes thrown out in a Florida county that averages 85% votes for Democrats in 2000, the Ohio server discrepancies in 2004, the Ohio server discrepancy that didn't happen in 2008 (and Karl Rove's meltdown on national TV when it didn't), voter suppression in every election, etc. I haven't heard of any significant indications of odd goings on this time around, just Trump's ranting that the election was fixed and the occasional here and there that someone claims they saw something, none of which has been substantiated.

        People tend to vote their party line, I think there were conservatives voted Republican down ticket but were sick of Trump and his antics and voted against him. Anyone who believes the presidency should be conducted in a dignified and respectful manner has to have been appalled by Trump.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Monday November 09 2020, @02:30AM

        by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Monday November 09 2020, @02:30AM (#1074954)

        Win or Lose, there ARE significant indications of some very odd goings on around this election

        Not yet there aren't, and when Trump's lawyers have been asked to present any evidence of any wrongdoing, they have been unable to.

        In fact the only "indications" are Trump's tweets.

    • (Score: 1) by hemocyanin on Tuesday November 10 2020, @05:00AM

      by hemocyanin (186) on Tuesday November 10 2020, @05:00AM (#1075537) Journal

      Or like Gore but whatever, recent history might get in the way of that mad dash to declare "nothing to see here, move along."