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posted by cmn32480 on Tuesday June 16 2015, @01:01PM   Printer-friendly
from the what-are-these-girls-you-speak-of? dept.

RealDoll, after almost 20 years of selling "the world's finest love doll," is developing an animated, robotic, artificially intelligent head that can be switched onto existing RealDoll bodies. The purpose, according to RealDoll's founder and CEO Matt McMullen, is to "arouse someone on an emotional, intellectual level, beyond the physical."

If you haven't heard of RealDoll before, the company makes expensive ($5,000-$10,000, £3,200-£6,400) but very realistic sex dolls. The dolls (which come in male and female varieties) have fully poseable skeletons, silicone skin, and are roughly the same weight and size as a real human. The dolls have interchangeable faces and orifices.

The reality that Westworld and AI imagined decades ago has arrived. What are the ethical implications? Would you be willing to use one?


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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @01:11PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @01:11PM (#196835)

    NSA

    • (Score: 5, Funny) by Jeremiah Cornelius on Tuesday June 16 2015, @01:47PM

      by Jeremiah Cornelius (2785) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @01:47PM (#196847) Journal

      "Cum, elucidate your thoughts...."

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @02:35AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @02:35AM (#197111)

        Yeh... I guess the phrase: "liquidation of assets" is going to take on a whole new meaning.

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by VLM on Tuesday June 16 2015, @01:17PM

    by VLM (445) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @01:17PM (#196836)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_2000 [wikipedia.org]

    Somewhat more seriously I could see this completely replacing most female entertainers, music, TV, etc. Could "she" read the news cheaper and better than existing news readers? Could she lip sync to someone elses music while dancing cheaper than the existing models?

    roughly the same weight and size as a real human

    As a hot one, not a people of walmart one. See recent story about average woman of 2015 being heavier than average man of 1960. Although special orders will likely be available.

    Also see:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_34_%28novel%29 [wikipedia.org]

    Specifically the products the toymaker sells from his suitcase. It'll be interesting to see if those are made illegal or not. For spoiler reasons I can't mention what was in the suitcase, but, just think about the book title. It is interesting to think about, if the level of AI is "kid like" then what does that imply?

    an animated, robotic, artificially intelligent head that can be switched onto existing RealDoll bodies

    As per above can you put two on one body, or strap one on to a standard issue human? That could be handy. Or is that heady? If the artificial head is booted up but the human one is unconscious drunk would that be consent? Or if the head is powered off but the human is awake, hmm. I guess it'll depend on if the owner of the fun parts is online or not.

    Aside from XXX related issues, any level of intellectual at all, mounted on a secondary head, would improve many politicians and leaders.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:23PM

      by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:23PM (#196860) Journal

      Veering off-topic here...

      Apart from Westworld, AI and Cherry 2000, another candidate for "humanoid robots in the sex industry" fiction would be the brand new Humans [channel4.com] from Channel 4. You can probably watch Episode 1 from that link, UK-based IP address may or may not be required. First episode was pretty good, with heavy nods to "I, Robot" and potential to be a really interesting series. Also a pleasure to see Katherine Parkinson (Jen from the IT Crowd) in a serious role, she's very good.

      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday June 16 2015, @03:51PM

        by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @03:51PM (#196897) Journal

        It may be that it will not play on linux.. will not work without UK ip, and will not work with VPN UK ip address so i guess it is not linux compatible?

        Pity....

        do i have to go see if it is on torrents and download illegally??? Is that what you want Corporations? Is it? Really????

        Jen?... Jen??? I have a nice pair of red pumps for you! Size two sizes too small!!!

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        • (Score: 4, Funny) by VLM on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:28PM

          by VLM (445) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:28PM (#196948)

          You writing about the robot or GAA's TV show? Reads likely either way.

          We're gonna be having conversations like: "The goatse adapter is DRMed to only work on windows 8.1, appropriately enough, and if thats not bad enough it also wants to install ASK toolbar"

          I can't wait to see the Apple iSexRobot which will probably come with a black turtleneck sweater and when it doesn't work you'll get press releases about holding it wrong.

          • (Score: 2) by Rich on Tuesday June 16 2015, @08:19PM

            by Rich (945) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @08:19PM (#197021) Journal

            I can't wait to see the Apple iSexRobot ...

            Apple doesn't need to ship such a thing. With their pricing you get completely screwed over before you've even dropped your pants.

            (I own a fully decked-out RMBP)

        • (Score: 2) by present_arms on Tuesday June 16 2015, @08:26PM

          by present_arms (4392) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @08:26PM (#197026) Homepage Journal

          Hola extension will get around geolocation fairly well :)

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        • (Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday June 16 2015, @11:12PM

          by Tork (3914) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @11:12PM (#197070)
          Willingly uses a niche OS, bitches about niche support anyway. Remeber when it was Mac users who did that?
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        • (Score: 2) by archshade on Wednesday June 17 2015, @05:48PM

          by archshade (3664) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @05:48PM (#197393)

          It may be that it will not play on Linux.

          I use the channel 4 catch up service regularly on Linux with no real problems. One small issue I had to enable hal service. Need certain JS and Flash. I do have a UK ip though

          • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday June 17 2015, @09:59PM

            by Gaaark (41) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @09:59PM (#197557) Journal

            I have the flash...will have to check js. Thanks!

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            • (Score: 2) by archshade on Wednesday June 17 2015, @10:35PM

              by archshade (3664) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @10:35PM (#197573)

              I have allowed JS from the following domains.

              • channel4.com
              • newrelic.com
              • maximiser.com
              • edigitalsurvey.com

              Although the real key is starting the hal service (I'm using arch and needed to install it from yaourt). Without hal the video just loads forever. Also just in case I am using palemoon, but have tried it with chromium w/pepperflash and that also worked.

              YMMV HTH

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by darnkitten on Tuesday June 16 2015, @07:16PM

        by darnkitten (1912) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @07:16PM (#196994)

        If you like Humans, you might want to try Äkta människor (Real humans), the Swedish series it was based on. Season 1 is available on Amazon. Very good.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday June 16 2015, @04:59PM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @04:59PM (#196932) Journal

      If the artificial head is booted up but the human one is unconscious drunk would that be consent? Or if the head is powered off but the human is awake, hmm. I guess it'll depend on if the owner of the fun parts is online or not.
       
      I don't know, but he's been described as "the best Bang since the Big One" by Eccentrica Gallumbits, and as "one hoopy frood" by others.

    • (Score: 1) by DutchUncle on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:35PM

      by DutchUncle (5370) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:35PM (#196952)

      >> Could "she" read the news cheaper and better than existing news readers?

      And could she tell you 'bout a plane crash with a gleam in her eye?

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Tuesday June 16 2015, @01:23PM

    by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @01:23PM (#196838) Journal

    > The reality that Westworld and AI imagined decades ago has arrived.

    I don't think we're quite there yet. What was imagined in those films were independent, walking, talking robots that could navigate the real world, interact convincingly with humans and maybe even pass for human under some circumstances.

    At best, realdoll will deliver a sexdoll with a creepy-uncanny-valley head that blinks and flaps its lips when it makes a noise. My most optimistic prediction for the "AI" is voice-recognition software running on a smartphone-level processor that can parse a set number of words and phrases, and regurgitate a few lines of scripted "conversation" in response. Perhaps also an orifice-sensor that can prompt unconvincing "oohs" and "aahs" and "harder big boy" noises when the user decides to skip the intellectual stimulation and go to main event. We're a long way from Westworld yet.

    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:07PM

      by VLM (445) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:07PM (#196854)

      independent, walking, talking robots that could navigate the real world, interact convincingly with humans and maybe even pass for human under some circumstances

      Wake me when our K12 educational system can consistently squirt out reliable product like that given traditional biological inputs... then we'll start to talk about outsourcing to silicon (silicone?) based products. I'm just saying if we can't produce good product given decent (ish) raw material suppliers then trying to innovate an even more complicated raw material isn't going to work any better.

      regurgitate a few lines of scripted "conversation" in response. Perhaps also an orifice-sensor that can prompt unconvincing "oohs" and "aahs"

      So a mainstream pr0n movie simulator, then? Under that criteria, pr0n sells, this will sell.

      I think the market is highly fragmented and that isn't being completely considered. They probably will never have a good silicon version of nerdy chick who talks about anime and Haskell programming intelligently before tentacle fun time. They could very likely make something to sell into the "girl next door" market where the median girl next door is only 50th percentile in looks, intellect, and technique, after all that's not aiming very high, how hard is it to make a piece of plywood with a hole drilled in it? They can, right now, make something that accurately emulates a pr0n starlet, and that sells so it'll sell plus or minus the usual business screwups (pricing, DRM, etc).

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by slash2phar on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:09PM

      by slash2phar (623) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:09PM (#196855)
      Ah yes.. but with wifi and mechanical turk, the intelligence can be added by some kid in the third world in real time for $0.03 !
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:17PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:17PM (#196858)

        Wow, sickening but likely.

      • (Score: 2) by dyingtolive on Tuesday June 16 2015, @08:53PM

        by dyingtolive (952) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @08:53PM (#197033)

        I'm reminded of the Young Lady's Illustrated Primer from the Diamond Age. Except in this case, I guess it's the Aging Neckbeard's Animated Sexbot.

        And all that could have been. Sigh.

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    • (Score: 2, Touché) by Ethanol-fueled on Tuesday June 16 2015, @03:51PM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @03:51PM (#196898) Homepage

      Sex noises are one of my pet-peeves. I watch porn with the volume muted because the noises are almost always worse than no noise at all. I'm also bangin' this intelligent good-looking fun woman but she sounds like a chihuahua in bed. I'm bangin this other Filipina who goes 'oo-oo-oo' like a gorilla and then gets louder and grumblier like that noise when you defeat a croc in Donkey Kong Country. And what can you do about it? You have everything to lose and nothing to gain bringing her stupid noises up.

      Good vocalizations are one of those things in women that are extremely underrated, like one who can properly wipe her ass....dissapointingly rare. *sigh*

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:55PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:55PM (#196961)

        Gag them?

    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:43PM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:43PM (#196955) Journal

      My most optimistic prediction for the "AI" is voice-recognition software running on a smartphone-level processor

      Yeah, that's optimistic. More likely it would run somewhere in the cloud, submitting the microphone input there. And possibly some other data.

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      • (Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Tuesday June 16 2015, @06:10PM

        by q.kontinuum (532) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @06:10PM (#196967) Journal

        And possibly some other data.

        At least you will get mail-notification if you contracted some STD... Maybe not directly from Google, but a tell-tale letter from the health-insurance increasing your rates...

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Thexalon on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:15PM

    by Thexalon (636) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:15PM (#196857)

    I'm not interested in using anything like this, because I have a real live human partner in my life that makes me much happier than any doll ever could.

    But I do see this kind of thing as potentially extremely useful for those whose proclivities tend towards activities which harm others. For example, if somebody only really gets off when their partner is unwilling, it would be much better for them to rape a doll than a real person. Or you could conceivably build one of these that looks like a child, allowing the pedophiles out there to do what they would like to do without harming a real child. Satisfying those people while putting dolls at risk rather than people would probably make real people safer.

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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:30PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:30PM (#196866)

      This just makes them unsuitable to be a part of the human race, they will never treat a real person with respect. On the other hand, at least they won't be procreating their DNA.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:40PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:40PM (#196872)

      If people get sent to jail for possessing child porn, why wouldn't they be sent to jail for possessing child dolls?

      It's much harder to hide a child doll than a stash of child porn.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @04:18PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @04:18PM (#196913)

        For the same reason that traditionally/in many jurisdictions there's no crime involved in possessing illustrated "child porn". Child porn laws are generally (initially) about protecting children - actual child porn necessitates child abuse, and thus by possessing it you are commissioning that abuse - just as you commission the slaughter of an animal whenever you eat meat. Yes, that assumes that there's money/status/emotional satisfaction involved in the distribution that promotes further abuses that would not have occurred otherwise - but that's pretty common with laws that attack the demand-side of a problem.

        Dolls, like illustrated "child porn", are entirely fictional and do not harm children in any way. You could argue that you're cultivating dangerous appetites, but you could just as easily argue that the appetites clearly already exist, and by sating them with fiction you are reducing the temptation for actual abuse.

        Aside: Yes, sometimes I *am* disturbed by bits of random trivia that have accumulated in my skull.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:58PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:58PM (#196962)

          In some countries it's illegal to make drawings of underage sex and underage people may not photograph them self without clothes.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:15AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:15AM (#197178)

            In some countries it is illegal for women to drive cars.
            In some countries it is illegal to say anything negative about the government, even if it is true.

            Just because something is illegal in some countries, it isn't automatically wrong. It of course also isn't automatically right. It's just that whether it is illegal in some countries makes a very weak argument on whether it is a good or bad thing.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anal Pumpernickel on Tuesday June 16 2015, @07:20PM

        by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @07:20PM (#196997)

        If people get sent to jail for possessing child porn, why wouldn't they be sent to jail for possessing child dolls?

        People shouldn't get arrested for either.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @03:29PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @03:29PM (#197318)

          There's an important distinction: Production of child porn harms children. Production of child dolls doesn't.

          Imagine a butcher who sells human meat. How should we treat the customers of that butcher (assuming they know they buy human meat, of course)? Should they not be arrested because, after all, they didn't kill those humans, they only bought their meat after they were already dead?

          • (Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Wednesday June 17 2015, @06:25PM

            by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @06:25PM (#197417)

            Production of child porn harms children.

            Yes, production.

            Imagine a butcher who sells human meat. How should we treat the customers of that butcher (assuming they know they buy human meat, of course)? Should they not be arrested because, after all, they didn't kill those humans, they only bought their meat after they were already dead?

            Correct. Arrest people who take harmful actions.

            And I'm sure there are plenty of cases where people obtain child pornography without paying for it at all. While lack of gain is not harm, using the logic of copyright thugs, this harms the producers, making it a net win. But their logic is broken anyway.

    • (Score: 2) by mrchew1982 on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:41PM

      by mrchew1982 (3565) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:41PM (#196875)

      My only fear is that instead of being just a replacement it will rather encourage the behavior and be used for (*shudder*) practice.

      Never heard of a rapist of any flavor that could content themselves with pictures or even videos. On the contrary, there is some disturbing research that rapists model their behavior after what they've seen.

      I will concede however that the research is probably flawed, their sample is only those who came forward or got caught.

      And I'd rather talk about something a little more socially accepted, so that's it from me...

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by VLM on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:37PM

        by VLM (445) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:37PM (#196953)

        will rather encourage the behavior

        I donno, think about it, thanks to the internet I've probably seen more fun parts than all my male ancestors put together since clothes were invented, but I'm not getting any more than they did, or doing any in-person voyeurism at all. If my experience times dozens of millions of male internet users hasn't spiked the graphs yet, I'm not sure anything imaginable can spike the graphs. There's a lot to see out there, we're seeing it, oh boy are we seeing it, yet not much is happening.

        At the very least it can't be linear. Having maybe 1e5 times more access to pr0n than my grandfather's generation surely hasn't linearly grown related crimes by tje same factor of 1e5.

        Looking at all the non-sex stuff I see on TV and completely ignore, it seems unlikely. Insert Star Trek analogy here.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by draconx on Tuesday June 16 2015, @06:28PM

        by draconx (4649) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @06:28PM (#196976)

        Never heard of a rapist of any flavor that could content themselves with pictures or even videos.

        That could simply be because, the people that successfully manage to content themselves with pictures or videos are, by definition, not rapists.

      • (Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Tuesday June 16 2015, @07:29PM

        by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @07:29PM (#197005)

        I will concede however that the research is probably flawed

        That's almost a given with the social 'sciences'.

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:56PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:56PM (#196879)

      And imagine the debate, ala violence in computer games, when semi-realistic rapable bots are available. Do they serve as an outlet for socially unacceptable behavior, or do they promote it?

      • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:02PM

        by Thexalon (636) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:02PM (#196934)

        All available evidence involving violent video games is that it does not seem to promote real-life violence in any way. There were some people who were really scared that it might be, and they pointed to the fact that violent people often played video games, but it turned out that the incidence of violence among people who played, say, Doom (that's when the scare got started) was no higher than in the non-player population.

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    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @04:17PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @04:17PM (#196912)

      Or you could conceivably build one of these that looks like a child, allowing the pedophiles out there to do what they would like to do without harming a real child.

      You do know that pedophiles aren't necessarily child molesters and child molesters aren't necessarily pedophiles, right?

    • (Score: 1) by budgenator on Tuesday June 16 2015, @04:19PM

      by budgenator (1529) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @04:19PM (#196915)

      Add more actuators on the armatures, some pressure and motion sensors, a highspeed internet connection and tele-sex takes on a whole new tenor when your partner is out of town!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @02:49AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @02:49AM (#197113)

        Right on that one... the muscles on the woman turn me on more than anything else does... feeling the muscles in her arms and torso while she is in ecstasy. And she has got to be the correct temperature too. Otherwise its like making love to a cold dead fish.

        • (Score: 2) by pkrasimirov on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:06AM

          by pkrasimirov (3358) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:06AM (#197175)

          > cold dead fish
          You mean RealFish(tm)? Or maybe RealDeadFish(tm)?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @04:58PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @04:58PM (#196931)

      because I have a real live human partner in my life that makes me much happier than any doll ever could.

      Whoop-dee-do. How does one do rolling eyes in this markup language?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @11:18PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @11:18PM (#197073)

        because I have a real live human partner in my life that makes me much happier than any doll ever could.

        Whoop-dee-do. How does one do rolling eyes in this markup language?

        Go easy on him. She's obviously reading over his shoulder.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @06:03PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @06:03PM (#196964)

      I'm not interested in using anything like this, because I have a real live human partner in my life that makes me much happier than any doll ever could.

      Great, but not everybody is in your situation.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @07:22PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @07:22PM (#197001)

        The fact is, if you think that real humans are physically attractive, you're just a filthy normie. Maybe you can't get sex with a real person, but your desires reveal you to be a normie.

    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday June 16 2015, @08:56PM

      by Bot (3902) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @08:56PM (#197034) Journal

      > allowing the pedophiles out there to do what they would like to do without harming a real child

      By the time that what you wrote becomes feasible, we bots will have developed feelings.
      YOU MONSTER.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @01:44AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @01:44AM (#197097)

      But I do see this kind of thing as potentially extremely useful for those whose proclivities tend towards activities which harm others. For example, if somebody only really gets off when their partner is unwilling, it would be much better for them to rape a doll than a real person.

      Yes, then the doll could be programmed to take out such people...

  • (Score: 2) by looorg on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:41PM

    by looorg (578) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:41PM (#196876)

    As interesting advances in robotics might be there is nothing that is really appealing about buying a super expensive creepy looking fuckdoll. I'm sure realism is relative but there is really nothing realistic looking about them; judging from the photos.

    I would rather just wank the old fashioned way and spend my $10k (or 5k) on something else -- alternativly I'd spend $100 on a fleshlight and do something fun with the rest. I'm fairly sure 10k would buy me a fair amount of hooker-time if I was so inclined.

    If I wanted to bang a machine that was also intellectually stimulating I'd go visit IBM and fuck Watson.

    • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday June 16 2015, @03:19PM

      by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @03:19PM (#196889) Journal


      I'd go visit IBM and fuck Watson.

      When i get a visit from IBS, I feel (literally) like fucking sh*t! :(

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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by wonkey_monkey on Tuesday June 16 2015, @03:15PM

    by wonkey_monkey (279) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @03:15PM (#196886) Homepage

    The dolls have interchangeable faces and orifices.

    I'll just leave that there for you to think about for a moment.

    You're welcome.

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    • (Score: 2) by mtrycz on Tuesday June 16 2015, @03:49PM

      by mtrycz (60) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @03:49PM (#196896)

      Thank you.

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    • (Score: 2) by cmn32480 on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:07PM

      by cmn32480 (443) <{cmn32480} {at} {gmail.com}> on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:07PM (#196936) Journal

      You gotta have a way to clean out the orifices , don't you? They'd have to be removable, and are probably dishwasher safe!

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @01:53PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @01:53PM (#197253)

        whoooooooooooosh

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @04:19PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @04:19PM (#196914)

    Just a little bit of topic drift, I thought I'd mention this promising new tv series about android 'synths': Humans [tvrage.com] which is a sort of remake of the excellent Swedish show Real Humans aka Äkta människor. [imdb.com]

  • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:26PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:26PM (#196945)

    Of course if they made one that BOTH cleaned the house AND gave booty on demand then women would be pretty much obsolete.

    • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Tuesday June 16 2015, @06:53PM

      by krishnoid (1156) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @06:53PM (#196983)

      Men too, I guess.

      • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Tuesday June 16 2015, @11:16PM

        by isostatic (365) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @11:16PM (#197072) Journal

        Men cleaning the house?

        • (Score: 1) by Bogsnoticus on Wednesday June 17 2015, @12:59AM

          by Bogsnoticus (3982) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @12:59AM (#197088)

          Hosing the place out still counts as cleaning.

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    • (Score: 1) by darnkitten on Tuesday June 16 2015, @07:32PM

      by darnkitten (1912) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @07:32PM (#197007)

      Obligatory webcomic reference: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=633/ [questionablecontent.net], from 3rd panel.

  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday June 16 2015, @06:12PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @06:12PM (#196969) Journal

    Something that's obviously a machine wouldn't seem so interesting. Something that you occasionally have to do a double-take with would be creepy. Something you couldn't tell, scary.

    Women can be impossible, but there's no substitute for the real thing.

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @07:31PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @07:31PM (#197006)

      Women can be impossible, but there's no substitute for the real thing.

      Real people are physically ugly and completely sexually unappealing. Anime-style drawings are far superior. This is also why any sex robots are worthless; they'll end up looking like filthy real people.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by mhajicek on Tuesday June 16 2015, @09:12PM

      by mhajicek (51) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @09:12PM (#197037)

      They might have more success staying on the robot side of the uncanny valley. Something like the Svedka Vodka robot for example.

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  • (Score: 1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @06:23PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 16 2015, @06:23PM (#196974)

    what can i say?
    awesome.
    if we don't nuke the planet with a zombie virus epidemic into global warming first then this is the future.
    I see a slight problem for the economy tho.
    not being a anti-feminist here, but globally i'm guessing 90 % of hard income is earned by males.
    however a small percentage of (good looking) females play a crucial role of .. uhm ...ahh lubrication of the money markets.
    if we assume that humans are sane then they would only buy what is needed and put everything else in the bank. since this is not the case, a lot of money is also spent for ...uhm... ah ... no-strings-attached companionship.
    this line of "work" is probably the most successful in removing (read: getting back) at least some money from the 1% (but not just from them).
    so if the female robots take off there will be a rather sizable cash-money-economy-lubrication effect missing, methinks.
    nevertheless: go robots!

    p.s. there might also be a another effect on the postulate global A.I.(aesthetics, trends, beliefs, taboos, convictions, etc.) present in all humankind.

    • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Tuesday June 16 2015, @06:41PM

      by isostatic (365) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @06:41PM (#196981) Journal

      Where's the mod option for (-1, Wanker)?

    • (Score: 2) by kurenai.tsubasa on Wednesday June 17 2015, @01:08AM

      by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @01:08AM (#197092) Journal

      Ah, I see what you're getting at. The Amazon nation will rise once again! Ok… fine… it really wasn't a world power at its height 2500 years ago.

      We can work with this.

      “This summer… one woman… they didn't know who she was…” *Xena fanfare* “A cloning experiment gone out of control… A hotsprings turns a scorned lover into a maniacal hacker” Tsubasa (yours truly!): “My pink virus will fill the sky with the ultimate botnet!” The drama. The action. Xena: “Get down!” Xena: “Get down again!” *switch to slow-mo take-down scene* Kolon: “You're 300 years too early to take me on, sonny-boy!” *choral note fade* Amazons Rising. *copyright notice, etc, rated R*

      The only thing that can make this trailer more epic: paste on a force scene from Evil Dead. Ash and Mia: “Groovy.” *chainsaw roar*

  • (Score: 2) by zeigerpuppy on Wednesday June 17 2015, @02:21AM

    by zeigerpuppy (1298) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @02:21AM (#197105)

    My friend wants to start a brothel with these to simplify the legal issues.
    I think he should hack them a bit and have spider women crawling around and satisfying multiple clients.

  • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Wednesday June 17 2015, @05:24AM

    by darkfeline (1030) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @05:24AM (#197159) Homepage

    There are no ethical implications. Is it wrong to masturbate? Is it wrong to have sex? Is it wrong that modern "AI"s are "abused" and "enslaved" by humans? No? Okay then.

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    • (Score: 2) by pkrasimirov on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:20AM

      by pkrasimirov (3358) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:20AM (#197180)

      I remember some sci-fi novel where the male protagonist was offered sex with his freshly cloned sister, if he has the money.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:28AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:28AM (#197184)

      Well, assuming their dolls would get real (strong) AI (which I strongly doubt), then there certainly would be ethical implications. Is it ethical to abuse and enslave an intelligent being, even if we built it ourselves?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @02:01PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @02:01PM (#197260)

      Unless you count fooling guys to fuck a robot...

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @03:43PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @03:43PM (#197333)

        Will the children then be cyborgs? :-)