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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday January 15 2020, @06:01AM   Printer-friendly

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The US has warned the British government it "would be madness" to use Huawei technology in the UK's 5G network.

A US delegation presented the UK with new evidence claiming to show security risks posed by using the Chinese firm.

[...]Senior US officials handed over a dossier of technical information which sources claim challenged British intelligence's own technical assessment that it would be possible to use Huawei in the 5G infrastructure without risks to national security.

[...]The move is being seen as the latest round in an intense lobbying effort by the Trump administration as the UK government prepares to makes its decision on the 5G network.

Last year, the US banned companies from selling components and technology to Huawei and 68 related companies, citing national security concerns.

Is the security concern real, or is it all about the Benjamins?


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UK reportedly planning to phase out Huawei equipment from its 5G networks

After resisting pressure from the US for months, Prime Minister Boris Johnson is apparently preparing to phase out the use of Huawei equipment from the UK's 5G networks, the Financial Times reported. Citing national security concerns, members of the UK's Conservative party have pushed for Huawei technology to be removed from the UK's 5G infrastructure and the rest of its telecom network by 2023.

[...] Trump reportedly called Johnson earlier this year to discuss the matter, and at least one member of Congress said the US was reconsidering its intelligence partnership with the UK.

Johnson had limited how much Huawei equipment could be used for 5G networks in the UK, banning the use of the company's technology in the most sensitive parts of the network. He said in January that there were not a lot of other options available for the UK's 5G infrastructure, and telecom Vodafone said removing Huawei equipment from its networks would be extremely costly.

See also: Reports: UK to cut Huawei's involvement in 5G network
Boris Johnson forced to reduce Huawei's role in UK's 5G networks

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by c0lo on Wednesday January 15 2020, @06:10AM (7 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 15 2020, @06:10AM (#943481) Journal

    Invalid verb mood detected.
    The existence of pathological level of madness in UK is already a certified reality, nothing subjunctive about it.
    Proof? Brexit. (large grin)

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    • (Score: 2) by arslan on Wednesday January 15 2020, @06:23AM (6 children)

      by arslan (3462) on Wednesday January 15 2020, @06:23AM (#943487)

      Sussexit?

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday January 15 2020, @07:22AM (5 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 15 2020, @07:22AM (#943495) Journal

        Nah, that's actually quite a sane proposition.
        Slackers they may be, but I can't blame them for trying to have all the advantages of royalty with none of its obligations.

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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
        • (Score: 1, Redundant) by MostCynical on Wednesday January 15 2020, @08:10AM (4 children)

          by MostCynical (2589) on Wednesday January 15 2020, @08:10AM (#943502) Journal

          Likely more opportunity to cash-in on tabloid interest.

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          "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
          • (Score: 4, Informative) by c0lo on Wednesday January 15 2020, @09:31AM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 15 2020, @09:31AM (#943524) Journal

            For someone who lost his mother on "tabloid interest" related causes? I really-really doubt it.

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          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by isostatic on Wednesday January 15 2020, @12:22PM

            by isostatic (365) on Wednesday January 15 2020, @12:22PM (#943552) Journal

            More like ability to remove themselves from the sphere of tabloid hatred in the UK

          • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday January 15 2020, @04:10PM (1 child)

            by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 15 2020, @04:10PM (#943640) Journal

            cash-in on tabloid interest

            I am unfamiliar with these tabloids. Do they run Chrome OS ?

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            The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 15 2020, @11:11PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 15 2020, @11:11PM (#943823)

              No, they run shadow banking with high interest rates.

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by MostCynical on Wednesday January 15 2020, @08:20AM (2 children)

    by MostCynical (2589) on Wednesday January 15 2020, @08:20AM (#943506) Journal

    the NSA just miffed that they haven't been able to backdoor Huawei equipment?

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    "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
    • (Score: 4, Funny) by gawdonblue on Wednesday January 15 2020, @09:49AM

      by gawdonblue (412) on Wednesday January 15 2020, @09:49AM (#943526)

      Cisco is recommended by 9 out of 10 NSA experts.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by driverless on Wednesday January 15 2020, @10:22AM

      by driverless (4770) on Wednesday January 15 2020, @10:22AM (#943531)

      The US has warned the British government it "would be madness" to use Huawei technology in the UK's 5G network.

      The US has warned the British government it "would be madness" to not use overpriced, behind-schedule, NSA-backdoored US technology in the UK's 5G network.

      There, FTFY.

  • (Score: 2) by kazzie on Wednesday January 15 2020, @08:25AM (1 child)

    by kazzie (5309) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 15 2020, @08:25AM (#943508)

    Is the security concern real, or is it all about the Benjamins?

    Let's ask Beatrix Potter [wikipedia.org], she'll know.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by zocalo on Wednesday January 15 2020, @09:33AM

      by zocalo (302) on Wednesday January 15 2020, @09:33AM (#943525)
      Possibly not Franklin, although Cisco and Qualcomm are both in the 5G basestation market, since the most likely alternatives for the UK are provided by Samsung (Korean), Ericsson (Swedish), and Nokia (Finnish). ZTE (China) is also on the Entity List, IIRC, as I would assume is Datang Telecom (also Chinese), but I guess it would be amusing if they simply switched to ZTE so we could all watch the US government have a fit.
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      UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 15 2020, @08:26AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 15 2020, @08:26AM (#943509)

    The US has now completely lost its moral ground. When they can't compete, they impose pointless embargoes. Cuba was not an aberration in this regard, just a forward about things to come. Endless wars, both militarily and economically, is the status quo of US. For any other nation, Dotard in Chief would be beginning of an end (like in Zimbabwe or Turkey), but smarter people in the past have won great influence for US that it continues to enjoy. USD reserve currency status is what I'm talking about here. If not for that, US would be like Turkey already.

    Enjoy while it lasts? I'm not optimistic that Americans have any great intelligence to actually see their own problems.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday January 15 2020, @01:24PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday January 15 2020, @01:24PM (#943566) Journal

      Enjoy while it lasts? I'm not optimistic that Americans have any great intelligence to actually see their own problems.

      Fair point, but who does?

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      Washington DC delenda est.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 15 2020, @07:25PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 15 2020, @07:25PM (#943723)

      When they can't compete, they impose pointless embargoes.

      And you foreigners have to obey, as you're too scared to grow some balls to fight for your own interests. Haha, fuck you! 🖕🖕🖕
          -- Uncle Sam

    • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Wednesday January 15 2020, @10:52PM (1 child)

      by RamiK (1813) on Wednesday January 15 2020, @10:52PM (#943816)

      The US has now completely lost its moral ground.

      Moral grounds tend to be rather relative when the other side is harvesting religious and ethnic minorities for not-so-spare organs.

      Lesser of two evils and all that...

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      • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Thursday January 16 2020, @12:21AM

        by MostCynical (2589) on Thursday January 16 2020, @12:21AM (#943835) Journal

        Evil is evil. [youtube.com]
        Can we choose "neither"?

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        "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 17 2020, @09:45AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 17 2020, @09:45AM (#944474)

      Although really the Whiskey Rebellion and Washintgon's leading of conscripted men to put it down showed America's true colors before it was even truly America (that was still under the Articles of Confederation, look to Shay's Rebellion and others for post-Union conflicts and the surrounding history of how the mechant class was already running things at the detriment of the common folk and especially colonial farmers. People continued moving West for a lot of reasons. Including to avoid taxes and corrupt government/lawmen.)

      The opening of Japan however was an unprovoked attack on a foreign entity who had claimed the right to isolation, a right which we chose to breach in order to have a more convenient port to resupply in past Hawaii since Chinese ports were under unfavorable European control. The result of that being the decline of the Shogunate and the return of Imperial Japan, directly leading to their participation in later wars up to and including WW2 in order to continue fueling their industrial capacity for which they had insufficient domestic resources, particularly in regards to fuel and supplies of certain minerals.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 17 2020, @11:55PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 17 2020, @11:55PM (#944800)

    Madness would be to let the land in your country to be purchased by your sworn enemies who have openly declared they will kill you and have done so.

    Because that would be just stupid.

    It's okay though because London is the bastion of the English. No one will ever take over their home, invade their lands, rape [wikipedia.org] and murder at will.

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