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posted by martyb on Friday February 17 2017, @02:06AM   Printer-friendly
from the long-and-winding-road dept.

Two of SoylentNews' staff submitted stories noting our three-year anniversary; one a site summary of where we are and a summary of what we've done, and the other a detailed presentation of the very early days and how SoylentNews got started.

Three Whole Years -- Thanks to You!

Three years ago, today, SoylentNews announced its presence to the world. Much has happened along the way of our providing a place for a community to grow and to engage in discussion.

It started as a fork of five-year-old, open-sourced code which had suffered under benign neglect. Perl, Apache, MySQL, and other products had continued on. So we had to deal with dependencies on unsupported and back-level versions of code. A great deal of effort went into bringing the site up-to-date with current versions of that base. See below for mechanicjay's illuminating first-hand account of how that all got started.

[Continues...]

Those of you who were with us then can attest to the fact that site outages were a regular occurrence. Bugs were found and eradicated. New bugs were made, and found as well. We invited the community to vote to name the site. We created documents of incorporation and had them dutifully filed. On July 4th, 2014 we received notice of officially becoming SoylentNews PBC. But I get ahead of myself.

Not content with just running a clone of the old code, the staff embarked on a large number of improvements to the site. Support for Unicode characters (via UTF-8) was an early improvement. Refinements to moderation took place — you could now moderate and comment in the same story. Moderation points were issued to every registered user every single day. An API was written and made available. We have our own Folding@Home team (currently ranked 314 of 226132 teams in the world) which contributes spare compute cycles to help find cures to maladies such as Huntington's Disease. (See the Main F@H site and our team page.) We sent out a call for new editors to help our beleaguered editing team which was approaching burnout; several of you answered the call and we are greatly enriched by their viewpoints and their questioning of the status quo.

And what have we wrought? Our own place on the world-wide web, supported and run entirely by the community. For the numerate in our midst, here are some statistics for the site. As of the time of this writing (20170217_002919 UTC), SoylentNews has:

  • conducted 96 polls
  • posted 2098 user journal articles
  • registered 6496 user nicknames
  • published 15660 stories
  • received 18611 story submissions
  • posted 462690 comments
  • had 52699108 hits on stories

But that's not all! Unwilling to rest on their laurels, our development team has been hard at work bringing improvements to the site — along with some bug fixes. If you want to play with the current, in-development, subject-to-change-without-notice version of the site, hop on over to our development server. Do be aware several specially-crafted stories were created and posted there so as to evoke certain test conditions, so please respect the admonitions stated on those stories. Have an observation, question, or found a bug? We'd love to hear your feedback in the #dev channel on our IRC server.

We could not have done it alone — a great many of you have contributed to the site. There is the administrative tasks of paying the bills and handling legal obligations. Sysops support to keep our boxes up and running. Writing code and patching bugs (while minimizing the bug writing). Suggesting and testing new code/features and providing constructive feedback. Making financial contributions by signing up for subscriptions. Submitting story submissions for the editors to poke and prod at. All of this in support of a goal to provide a place where people can submit comments and engage in discussions with other interesting and intelligent people on the 'net. As with any community, there have been some 'heated' discussions. And most refreshing of all, are those discussions where nuggets of wisdom and brilliance appear — and make the whole effort worthwhile.

So, on behalf of the rest of the all-volunteer staff here at SoylentNews, let me say thank you. For your support, engagement, and questioning — we are a better site because of you. May we continue to earn your trust and support for many years to come.

In the comments, please feel free to mention anything significant that happened over these years which were inadvertently omitted as well as to tell us what we can do better.

So, to wind this up, I have one last question: "emacs or vi?" =)

Reflections on our First Days

For our third year, I have some Reflections on our third day.

In some of the pre-history of SoylentNews, here is some of the stuff that gets lost in the mists of time around the first coordinated development effort -- running on a VM, on a laptop in my basement under the slashcott.org domain. The slashcott had been announced and was to commence in some number of days. A bunch of folks thought it would be an awesome idea to get an independent version of slash running in time for the slashcott -- what could go wrong?

3 years and ton of life changes for me, makes some of this a little fuzzy, but I'll do my best to put things together. I've relied heavily on my email archive of that time which helped spur a bunch of memories. Hopefully this will be a coherent tale. (Maybe for next year I'll mine my personal IRC logs from when we were still on freenode).

At first there was a bunch of coordination in the ##slashcode channel on freenode, a bunch of emails were also buzzing around trying to coordinate some things and ideas. My first email to Barrabas was on 02/06/2014 [6 Feb 2014 for our non-US readers]. The issue at hand was that "slashcode" had been hastily open sourced 5 years prior, then pretty well abandoned. Not only did you need to build the perl modules from scratch, but it would only build against Apache 1.x. Once you managed to run that gauntlet, even compiled and installed, things barely ran and were pretty horribly broken. Anyway, it soon became apparent that robinld, NCommander and myself were making the most progress on getting something running, as I recall Robin was the first to success in getting an installed running site, but his VM was stuck behind a corporate firewall.

In the meantime, I had gotten the domain slashcott.org registered while trying to build things myself. At some point, a bunch of us decided to combine forces, Robin shipped me his VM, I got it running on my laptop (as it was the only 64-bit thing I had at the time), we got myself and Ncommander ssh'ed in and we started hacking. For some reason, RedHat vm's were horribly laggy on my openSuse VirtualBox host and work was slow and painful, but progress started to be made.

The only bug I've ever fixed in the code base was a critical piece of the new account email/password generation stuff, as I recall the generated password wasn't actually getting written to the DB. (sadly the evidence of my contribution has been lost, I think I shipped the fix to either robin or ncommander, so they have credit in the git history). Regardless, it was a critical piece - I have an email dated 02/08/2014 with my new account/password, which worked -- it was a huge boon and let us start to let a couple people in to start hammering away to find front-end bugs (of which there were countless). The next big thing I see from mining my email is the first "Nightly stories email", which came out on 02/11/2014 (from the slashcott.org domain). I think we ended up with about 50ish users on slashcott.org (gosh I hope I still have that vmdk stashed somewhere).

On the night of 02/11/2014 (or very early morning of 02/12/2014), after giving up and going to bed (I had a new born and was teaching an undergrad class on the side in addition to my regular 9-5 -- I was beyond toasted after a week). The VM locked up hard (it had done this a couple times, but I was always available to poke it with a stick and bring it back. As I was unavailable and no one had exchanged important things like phone numbers yet, NCommander made the executive decision to spin up a linode, which was great. The laggy VM on the laptop wasn't meant to last forever, though I admit I had visions (delusions?) of hosting the site myself on some real hardware at some point. In retrospect, Linode has been an amazing way to run this site and absolutely the right decision.

I got my new account on the li694-22 domain, on the 02/12/2014, that new account email was for mechanicjay, UID 7 -- which is where I live on the site to this day. I kept the slashcott.org server in sync with code changes for a bit, and was a pretty handy testing platform, until the "official" dev box came online on 02/14/2014. At some point during this week, we had landed on the soylentnews.org domain and that's where we went live on 02/17/2014.

So there you have it, we went from a group of independent pissed off people with no organization and an abandoned broken codebase to launching an honest-to-goodness site in ELEVEN fucking days.


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  • (Score: 2) by art guerrilla on Friday February 17 2017, @12:16PM

    by art guerrilla (3082) on Friday February 17 2017, @12:16PM (#468177)

    *sheesh* just what you would expect a programmer to say at the expense of meat machines...
    no, THE only date format which makes UNIVERSAL sense to nekkid apes is : fri17feb2017
    even with no spaces it is 100% readable, understandable and unambiguous...
    don't give a shit if it is computer-friendly or not, it is hu-man-friendly, THAT is what is important...
    whip your stupid computers into shape that can handle that date format, NOT vice versa...

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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by martyb on Friday February 17 2017, @03:46PM

    by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 17 2017, @03:46PM (#468232) Journal

    no, THE only date format which makes UNIVERSAL sense to nekkid apes is : fri17feb2017 even with no spaces it is 100% readable, understandable and unambiguous...

    Was bedeutet "di17dez2013"? [*]

    Given the wide number of languages, many of which have their own names for the days of the week and the months of the year, it seems there just might be some limitations in your proposed UNIVERSAL format.

    [*] That would be an example of using the suggested format, in German, which in full would be: Dienstag, 17 Dezember 2013. 2013-12-17. (cf: The Months, Seasons, Days, and Dates in German [about.com].

    Once THAT has been mastered, let's move on to French, Spanish, Polish, Russian, Hebrew, Arabic, and Mandarin.

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    • (Score: 2) by NCommander on Friday February 17 2017, @05:33PM

      by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <mcasadevall@soylentnews.org> on Friday February 17 2017, @05:33PM (#468268) Homepage Journal

      No, the real way to handle dates is YYYYMMDD (HHMMss) so that a newer date is always highter than an old one :)

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      Still always moving
      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday February 17 2017, @05:58PM

        by Phoenix666 (552) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 17 2017, @05:58PM (#468277) Journal

        Let's own up. If we were real geeks we would use stardates from Star Trek.

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      • (Score: 2) by gringer on Friday February 17 2017, @06:15PM

        by gringer (962) on Friday February 17 2017, @06:15PM (#468285)

        So... ISO 8601 then:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601#Calendar_dates [wikipedia.org]

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 17 2017, @06:33PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 17 2017, @06:33PM (#468298)

          Funny you should bring that up. I just saw a discussion thread about it somewhere.

          • (Score: 2) by martyb on Saturday February 18 2017, @06:31AM

            by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 18 2017, @06:31AM (#468506) Journal

            Funny you should bring that up. I just saw a discussion thread about it somewhere.

            You could at least have provided a link. [soylentnews.org]

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