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Drupal founder Dries Buytaert expelled Larry "Crell" Garfield from the Drupal community (archive) for his involvement in the BDSM community. Garfield claims this was done at the demand of Drupal Security team member Klaus "klausi" Purer and unknown others secretly pressuring Drupal leadership to have him removed for his private sex life.
takyon: From Larry's response:
I am involved in two such communities, specifically the BDSM community and the Gorean (Gor) community. The former is by far the larger of the two and more varied, although I spend more of my time and activity in the Gorean community. It's a small community, and sadly much of what is found online about it is utter crap, just as most in the BDSM community find the "50 Shades" representation of BDSM to be harmfully misleading. The Gorean subculture is inspired by a science-fiction book series written from the 1960s onward to today, and predicated on a strong sense of personal honor, integrity, and community. It also practices consensual Master/slave relationships, and has a strong gender bias toward male-Dom/female-sub relationships, but that is not the cornerstone of Gorean culture. There are other groups that are biased the other way, or have no gender bias. There are even groups in Chicago (where I live) that have regular "fem-dom" parties. To each their own.
It's the same Gor that was adapted into two films, one of which appeared on an episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by bradley13 on Monday March 27 2017, @01:06PM (10 children)
hendrikboom writes: "John Norman's Gor books depict overt, endemic domination by males, and it's not consensual in the slightest."
So what? They're fantasy novels. In mystery novels, people get murdered left and right, and nobody gets upset. So why does it matter what happens in Gor? The Gorian society that Crell belongs to is all about consensual fantasies - they don't drag women in off the streets. If that's the game they want to play, that's their business.
Apparently (reading the linked articles) Crell took this as far as wearing lots of leather in his daily life. The Goth and Emo types also dress a bit strangely. It's still their business.
Read the first link, by Dries, where he tries to explain why he kicked Crell out of the community:
- ...holds views that are in opposition with the values of the Drupal project How, exactly, can your personal fantasy life can be in opposition to a project's values.
- I [Dries] fundamentally believe that all people are created equally Implying that Crell believes otherwise? Proof? Again, the responsible committee found no problems.
- when a highly-visible community member's private views become public ... Ultimately, I can't get past the fundamental misalignment of values Whose problem is that? Maybe Dries should leave the project?
- we work hard to ensure that Drupal has a culture of diversity and inclusion. ... It's my opinion that any association with Larry's belief system is inconsistent with our project's goals WTF
How can anyone take these people seriously?
Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Monday March 27 2017, @02:06PM (1 child)
Somebody compared it to Clue and going out and killing Colonel Mustard or something. Probably a deleted comment on the Buytaert blog, not sure.
I didn't see this part at all. Did I skim over it? Larry's blog just mentions "Leather community", not literally wearing leather to Drupal events.
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(Score: 2) by bradley13 on Monday March 27 2017, @02:24PM
I don't recall where I saw it - might have been a comment. It was something along the lines of "he was always wearing a leather vest, but no one thought anything of it".
Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Monday March 27 2017, @03:05PM (4 children)
In mystery novels, people get murdered left and right, and nobody gets upset.
Didn't anyone ever watch "Murder, She Wrote" and wonder how some small town in Maine doesn't have federal investigators crawling all over it for having, by far, the highest homicide rate in the world?
(Score: 3, Funny) by Oakenshield on Monday March 27 2017, @08:03PM
No. Stephen King lives nearby so they figured it was aliens or giant spiders or something.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday March 27 2017, @08:39PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday March 28 2017, @12:26AM (1 child)
With ONE woman connecting them all!
Yeah, she solved them: BECAUSE SHE DID THEM, AND FRAMED OTHERS!
Such a sweet old lady.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:29AM
It *is* the most logical answer.
(Score: 2) by curunir_wolf on Monday March 27 2017, @04:46PM
I am a crackpot
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday March 27 2017, @05:35PM (1 child)
To me when "private views become public" - they're not private anymore.
If someone else "outed" him, that's one thing, but if he's going to the office dressed in stereotyped clothes and telling anyone who asks what it's about - that's not private behavior.
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(Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Tuesday March 28 2017, @06:38AM
Which he didn't.