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As first seen in @Day of the Dalek's journal, and suggested to be posted as a Meta story on the Main page by @quietus, here is a call for volunteers:

You've probably seen janrinok's resignation from the staff by now. As he was responsible for large portions of the site's day to day operation, this obviously leaves a big hole to fill. It's unlikely that any one person can step up to take on janrinok's duties. It will certainly require a community effort, probably from many people.

The future of SN isn't really determined by the board or the staff. For better or for worse, the community is really in control. Despite my obvious frustration with some things, I absolutely prefer the "for better" half of that choice.

I emailed admin@soylentnews.org Friday night to discuss the possibility of becoming a staff member, and what my role might be given my time constraints. The three roles suggested to me were: 1) editing an average of 1-2 stories a week, 2) facilitating policy discussions and drafting policy documents, and 3) writing occasional original content for SN such as editorials. These all seem reasonable to me. I've specifically requested that I not be given admin privileges, not now or in the future, only the minimum level of access needed to carry out my specific duties.

Like I said, I don't think any one person is likely to be able to assume janrinok's responsibilities. I cannot. This will work best if many members of the community volunteer a small amount of their time to help. I believe the site will be better off in the long term if responsibilities are distributed among many people instead of having a single person responsible for a large portion of SN's operations.

A user in one of my previous journals asked me to lead by example. I'm doing that, and discussions are already underway with the staff. But this will work best if others join me in volunteering to help a bit.

Who's in?

Original Submission

I am resigning with immediate effect from SoylentNews. I no longer have the trust of all of the community and my position is untenable.

I wish the site and the community all the very best for the future. I have enjoyed being a part of the last 11 years and I will be leaving behind many friends.

Some might say "Break out the flags and let the party commence!"

Jan

Addendum

I have been asked by the Chairman of the Board to publicise an email that I sent to him in response to him asking me what way my departure will affect the site's operation in the immediate future.

[OregonJohn]

Of course. I will remain contactable on this email in the future.

There will only be one active editor (hubie [...]) for much of the time. This is only manageable for a matter of days. There are several editors who still contribute from time to time and they may be able to assist depending on the level of their other commitments.

I have switched off the sock puppet detection and management software, which was being run locally on my own server. Previously, this was a task that was manually done by an administrator, but means that sock puppets cannot be easily detected until they abuse the site. This is, of course, too late.

I have switched off the Spam detection and management software. That is partially the cause of the loss of confidence in me which now exists in some of our community, so it is perhaps less important. It was being run locally on my own server.

Somebody will have to answer the emails addressed to 'admin@soylentnews.org', and action them if necessary.

I regret having to resign, but when valuable community members are leaving the site and I am the reason for them leaving then it is better that I go now and give the community time to stabilise. I got it wrong and I should pay the price.

[Edited after initial Release: 02-05-2025 08:47--JR]

A Response

First I have got to say that I am both surprised and grateful for the many comments to my announcement. Thank you for each and every one of them.

I have read them all and i have taken note of the advice offered. It was all good advice, always well intentioned, but in some cases you are only aware of some of the circumstances behind my actions. I have considered everything you have said and I have made some personal decisions for the future.

For some time now I have been having medical problems. Currently they are being managed by medication but one of the side effects is that I am suffering from extreme fatigue and disrupted sleep patterns. (The regular home visits by pretty nurses are a bonus, but I digress...). Although the doctors are optimistic that they can bring the problem under control with medication alone, there is still a chance of surgery being necessary - probably not life threatening but certainly potentially life changing if it has to be employed. For the moment I am unable to commit to the level of support that I have been giving to the site over the last few years and the doctors would like to resolve the issues in the coming months. I too want it to be resolved. The problems related to the loss of trust of a small portion of our community just forced my hand and I decided to do what the doctors have been asking me to do for many months. They, at least, will be happy that I have decided to follow their advice for a change.

I have spent the weekend considering the advice that you have given me and I cannot fault any of it. But for the moment my move back to the community is essential. I am not leaving the site, but I am unable to say when or how I will be able to contribute, and remaining in this uncertain situation would be unfair on the other members of staff and the community too. If I had not resigned then most people would have thought that things were carrying on as usual but that will not be the case. Hubie, as the main editor, would have a unmanageable workload and would have to be active on the site almost every day. That is unfair, unreasonable and, frankly, I think it is unacceptable. We desperately need a couple of volunteers to help out as editors. There are around 250+ active community members and if just 2 of them can step forward then they would only have to edit on average 1 or 2 stories a day. Personally, I prefer to edit at least a full day's worth (5 stories) and then Hubie or perhaps another editor can cover the next day. Weekends we often preload most stories so that we too can enjoy the weekend. That way spreads the workload and gives me time to do other things, both on the site and of it. I have offered to train anyone who wishes to give the job a try and, if everything works out for me, then I should be able to rejoin the staff and pick up where I am leaving off.

Being an editor does NOT mean that you have any of the other tasks that I have been doing. They are completely unrelated to the editing role. Despite some ACs' claims to the contrary there is no requirement for Administrators to be Editors or vice versa.

As for the site management, the site survived much longer without firm direction and leadership in the past and it can do so again. But there are other competent staff who can pick up the essential tasks, and leave the less important ones until we have a full complement of staff again. What is important is that the site remains active. Some were discussing rewriting the software - Why? The site works and doesn't need much at the moment. There is the odd hiccup but kolie is able to restart the system without so far losing any data. Others have mentioned looking for an alternative site - Why? The community here is doing what the community should and there is no need to look elsewhere, is there?

I really want there to be a site for me to return to once my problems are sorted out. All that I ask you to do is keep making submissions, giving insightful, witty and knowledgeable comments, and pushing out journals. This is exactly what you have been doing throughout the disruption of the last few years. I would appreciate that remaining the case for the future too.

I will not disappear (or at least I am not planning to...) and if I feel that I can do something then I will do it. What I do not want for the moment is the responsibility of having to be available all the time and a long list of outstanding jobs that never seems to get any shorter.

Seriously guys, I have been stunned by your response and you need to know that I appreciate it. It was a great morale boost and it came at just the right time.

We have tried to design a site which does not rely on a single person. The board do a brilliant job (often unseen and unrecognised) and they are 100% doing it for the community. My (hopefully temporary) departure should not be allowed to have any significant effect on the site.

[Edited after initial release: 2025-05-04 16:00--JR]

Submissions - we need them please

That says it all, really.

ImportantNote:

From Firefox user advice:

Private Browsing does not make you anonymous on the Internet. Selecting a 'Private Window' does not affect anonymity.

There appears to have been a problem with the update of the Poll. Some made comments before the Poll appeared on the front pages - or so it seems. How they accessed it I do not know. The Poll released at the programmed time but comments that had already been made seem to have been lost. I am investigating the cause.

My apologies to anyone who had already made a comment. All I can do is ask that you make your comments again. We have not seen the problem before so if anyone can provide additional information that might help in identifying the cause it would be most useful. Did you access the Poll via the front page? If not, can you explain how you did access it please? Which browser are you using? Did anything appear 'different' to when you usually access the site?

[Addendum: The poll displayed on my front page has reverted to the previous poll again. If anyone else has seen the same please confirm in a reply to this Meta.] After a minute or so it returned to displaying the correct Poll.

Please cast your vote in the comments to this Meta.

A valid vote should contain a single word - either "Yes" to accept the documents or "No" to reject them. A single vote is required to accept ALL of the proposed documents.

TO OVERCOME THE TECHNICAL PROBLEM: Please include a single paragraph containing anything at all - it will be ignored by the software during vote counting. However, the vote "Yes" or "No" must be on a line all by itself.

For ease of reference links to the documents are repeated here:

• Soylent Phoenix - Bylaws (as submitted for Company Registration)
• IRC Section 501(c)(3)
• Policy
• Definitions and Common Terms
• Transfer of Assets Agreement
• Discussion Policy

[Voting closed as of 23:59 UTC 28 Feb]

Don't worry - this will be a relatively short Meta, and it is not to explain another site outage!

Community Vote on Site Documentation

In December 2024 I released a Meta which detailed the proposed documentation for the site under the Soylent Phoenix board. This is a legal requirement resulting from the creation of a new company. I repeated the links to the documentation in January. The next step is for the community to accept or reject the proposed documentation. The previous voting software is no longer available to us but I believe that a straightforward count of comments will suffice.

I will publish another Meta which will contain the links to the proposed documentation but it is not to be used for any discussion regarding the contents. Each current account in good standing (i.e. having a karma of 20+ and created on or before the publication of the December Meta (16 Dec 2024 - that is up to and including account #49487 ) will be eligible to vote. In order to cast your vote your comment should be limited to a single word - "Yes" or "No" (upper or lower case is acceptable) on a line all by itself. "Yes" will indicate your acceptance of the documentation and "No" will indicate your rejection of it. Your last comment of a maximum of 2 attempts will be the one that counts so you will have the opportunity to change your vote. Any more than 2 attempts from an account to cast a vote will be discarded. Comments may contain a single paragraph to overcome the 'lame comment' filter. The contents of the paragraph will be ignored. The vote will remain open for 1 week and will close at 23:59 (UTC) on 28 February 2025. The result will be made public once the Board are satisfied that the voting has been fair and democratic.

Existing votes will remain valid and do not have to be redone.

Entering into a discussion in the vote or justifying why you have voted in a particular fashion will nullify your comment. There has been a period of over 2 months for discussion and suggested changes.

It is important that you cast a vote. As an extreme example, if 1 person alone votes Yes and 2 people vote No then the documentation will NOT be accepted. Not casting a vote doesn't make any statement whatsoever but may result in the majority of true community opinion being ignored.

Essentially, the documentation is the same as that adopted in 2014 except it has been rewritten where necessary to clarify the meaning or intent. It also incorporates in one location changes to the rules that have been accepted by the community since 2014 (e.g. the definition of Spam which was adopted by the site in 2021).

I expect that many noticed that the site went down and, if you are reading this you will also realise that it is now back up.

The entire server died leaving a wake of Out-Of-Memory messages, which resulted in the site itself, IRC and our email all failing. We (and by that I really mean kolie!) have restarted the server and doubled the amount of memory available to it.

Of course, that doesn't tell us why it ran out of memory, although we knew that it was a bit tight, nor what specifically happened today to push it over the edge. That will probably take a while to work out.

It might take us a while to put more stories in the queue but you should be able to comment on many of today's stories that have only just appeared on your screens.

We are sorry for the inconvenience and we are getting back on our feet again. As always, a big THANK YOU to kolie for his efforts.

[Rescheduled to keep it visible--JR]

Introduction

For most people the holiday season is over. There are a few who have their winter holidays booked as we still have a few months of the skiing season to go yet, but I don't think that this affects any of our staff! So I offer a belated 'Happy New Year' and wish you all the very best for 2025.

Volunteers for the Board

Slightly less than 12 months ago I asked for volunteers to serve on the Board of SoylentNews and fortunately some people stepped forward and took on the 3 key roles (Chairman, Treasurer and Secretary). They have each contributed to the setting up of the site and getting us where we are today. However, they will soon be wanting to stand down from their current posts. The concept of the site is that the governance is provided by the community and that posts should be rotated occasionally. We are again seeking volunteers to assume one of the current positions. The roles are important, they are the most important posts on the site because without them there can be no site, but I don't think that they are particularly arduous. They are not roles that require a daily or even a weekly input. They maintain an overview of the site and they have an independent decision-making role in future site operations.

Volunteers for the posts should remember that they must be prepared to sign site legal business documents and therefore cannot maintain perfect anonymity. On the site we have not given any additional information other than their nicknames and user ids. Nevertheless, somewhere in the masses of paperwork and records that the US demands and maintains their names and contact details are recorded.

If you wish to volunteer for a post then you should have an account in good standing i.e. not banned or created within the last few months, and with a reasonable level of karma. Please volunteer either here in the comments or directly via email to admin@soylentnews.org. If you have volunteered for a post previously then it does not preclude you from volunteering again. If you have questions regarding a role then please raise them here. If appropriate, I will ask the person currently in that post to reply so that you get the information direct from 'the horses mouth'.

Once we have a volunteer or volunteers for a post we will hold an election for the community to approve and select a person for a post. This will be done openly and everyone with an active account created before the date and time that this Meta is published will have a single vote. The reason for this restriction is to prevent a mass of new accounts attempting to unfairly influence the outcome of the vote. The current Board will make the final decision on who is chosen.